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Old 13-08-2008, 12:29 PM posted to rec.gardens.orchids
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Default Mixing Chemicals?

I'm not sure about Cleary's since I haven't used it. I would think that it
would be fine is you've used them both before individually. Another
consideration in mixing is "is it in dry or liquid form?" Most liquid form
chemicals are dissolved in an organic solvent like petroleum distillate. One
dose is probably ok. But when you add one dose of this and one dose of that
you're adding up to a lot of doses of organic solvent. A plant may tolerate
1 dose just fine but not any more. This goes also for those guys that think
1 dose is good so 3 is probably better. So try for dry chemicals if at all
possible and use as little as does the trick. As for your initial question,
mix a small amount of each together and check for a precipitate in 1/2 an
hour. Cleary's instructions state

"Tank Mixing Instructions: 3336 F is compatible with most commonly used
pesticides.
If tank mixing with other materials,add products in the following
order:water soluble bags,
wettable powders,dry flowables,liquid flowables,emulsifiable
concentrates,and soluble
materials such as fertilizers.No claim of compatibility with other products
is implied.Do
not tank mix with copper-containing materials or with highly alkaline
pesticides,
such as Bordeaux mixture or lime sulfur. Consult the intended tank mix
partner
product label for appropriate application rates and use instructions.Follow
the label directions
for the most restrictive of label precautions and limitations.This product
cannot
be mixed with any product containing a label prohibition against such
mixing.Read and
observe the most restrictive precautionary statements and other information
appearing
on product labels used in mixtures. 3336 F may be applied in conjunction
with chemically
neutral liquid fertilizers.Application in conjunction with highly alkaline
fertilizers,
such as aqueous ammonia,may cause a degradation of the pesticide,resulting
in reduced
performance and should be avoided.

Since Orthene is not in these categories spray away.
Gary

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
...
Good info, Gary. Know anything about mixing Cleary's 3336 with Orthene? I
am more concerned about that combination than using the stuff with
fertilizer. I need to do a spray tomorrow, and would love to hit them with
both insecticide and Cleary's at the same time.

I love this group. So many good minds.

Diana

"v_coerulea" wrote in message
...
I know Physan, Phyton 27, Subdue, and Orthene all play nice together along
with Distance and Enstar, Decathlon, Marathon II, and all the expensive
miticides (Floramite, Pylon, Akari...). Some of these may not work well
with fertilizers. I know Physan and fertilizer cause a fine precipitate
which is probably taking some of the nutrients out of solution. Some of
the others are hard to tell since they turn white in water solutions. The
precipitate is what you want to look for in a reaction. I don't think any
of them will fizz or go kaboom. The precipitate may be so fine it just
looks like a cloudy solution. But it will begin to clump or form
sandy-like grains on the bottom after sitting for awhile. Hope this helps
some.
Gary

"Diana Kulaga" wrote in message
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All:

I know I can mix certain fungicides with each other. My question is,
which of the following, if any, would also be compatible with Orthene?
Any? None?

Cleary's 3336; Subdue; Phyton; Physan.

Diana