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Old 14-04-2003, 06:08 AM
Cass
 
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Default If Not E. Veyrat Hermanos, What?

Allegra answered:
"Cass" asked
I slammed on the brakes and cut off a bloom of a spectacular climbing
tea growing in the soil around the P G & E meter of a local video
store. The button eye is very distinct.

Is this E. Veyrat Hermanos? If so, I want many:


Hello Cass dear,

Not if the one we have (which I grew before and it has the
same characteristics is the real one) that around this part
of the world is some times called Pillar of Gold (?).


No, that would be to easy, now, wouldn't it? So I put together a more
comprehensive page showing more the feeling of the rose:

http://home.attbi.com/~cassbernstein...s/TamGlow.html

The stems are more reddish-purplish, the foliage is shiny
and dark green, and the color is too pale if compared
with EVH. The color in EVH is buff, almost dark yellow
and the reverse of the petals is pink, and I do mean pink...

...Would the people
who do the landscape for the place know what
they planted there? Somebody may, in Portland EVH can
easily reach between 12 and 14 feet so down there it
may be even taller. But the pink edges are nothing like
our old EVH. I am sure you already checked this out
however here is a poor but accurate shot as far as color and
shape

http://www.country-lane.com/yr/veyrat.htm

notice the leaves and also the fact that the color is truly a
buff yellow ochre pastel peach apricot soft gold with a solid
pink reverse- How is that for an accurate description?


A good description and not the rose I "found." Pictures of EVH are so
few and far between that I had no way of knowing whether it was
accurate or now.

Now, your bloom for some reason I cannot explain because
it is not a tea but a wichurana rambler, it reminds me of a very
young Rene Andre which I also used to grow and I have now in
the east side bed hopefully getting on with the business of
expansion. This is some gorgeous bloom from a very nice
lady in Canada, but she has magic fingers so I will never
expect my Rene to look anything like this, but your bloom
looks a bit like my old RA so, again time, space, sunlight
and so forth...who knows?

http://www.helpmefind.com/sites/rrr/pl.php?n=5188


Buds are different, but see below.

EVH color and fragrance plus the stems are dead giveaways.
Whatever you have there is worth a trip to the place to do
some snooping. Or request with a big smile after renting some
videos permission to take some cuttings. Try asking Alice, she
has a knack to recognize the old ones. I am still an amateur...


Thanks, Allegra. I have some cuttings and will take more. The video
store knows nothing: they describe it as "just a wild rose." But then
it occurred to me that I'd better look at ramblers - because that
button eye is apparent in many Barbier ramblers and because I don't
remember seeing this rose flower at other times of the year. But in my
mind's eye, that is not rambler foliage: it is noisette foliage.

Any pink glow to Gloire de Dijon? Button eye? There are apparently many
very good GdD offspring that are better than the parent. Pictures are,
again, hard to come by.

I'll get Alice's input, I hope.