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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:07:49 -0400, Bill who putters
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On Jun 22, 3:35*pm, Bill who putters wrote:
* Thirteen Dead last I heard. *Tragic shooting their own people.



WACO Texas....

It's still important.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_Siege

You know, there was a time, just after Timothy McVeigh, that "collateral
damage" was a bad thing. Now it seems to be the coin of the realm.

Blow Back

http://www.amazon.com/Blowback-Secon...oject/dp/08050
75593/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1245967334&sr=1-1

Reap what we sow lingers .

Bill

What?? WHAT???? Chalmers Johnson? You subversive, liberal
loon....you been smokin' turnip greens again, you eco fringe commie
pinko leftie!!!

You need to take a gramme, Billoon.

Charlie

"When the individual feels, the community reels."
- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World, Ch. 6

Depends on what you want to accomplish. If we want to keep the
military-industrial complex happy, we need to keep stirring up the
hornet's nests like the World Bank does with "economic restructuring"
(cutting health care, education, wages, and privatizing public assets,
like we are doing now in America), or when our leaders cause dozens,
hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands of innocents (collateral
damage) to be killed with indiscriminate missile and bomb attacks.

If we want peace, we assist in delivering clean water, and stop
undercutting third world farmers with our cheap subsidized grains.
We could cut our military budget in half (to a quarter of the world's
military expenditures) and have money left over for "First World" health
care, education, and maybe real increases in income for the bottom
quintile for the first time in 30 years.

But there isn't much money in Peace, just like there isn't any money in
crop rotation.

The Iranians and ourselves (and most countries) have one thing in common,
for all our pretense, our governments are oligarchies, not democracies.
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- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn