28-05-2010, 11:04 PM
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Toward food sovereignty: Reclaiming autonomous food systems [pdf]
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Bill who putters wrote:
In article
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Billy wrote:
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:
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wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
The work was
finished in 2009, and it "describes the ecological basis of food and
agriculture, the social and environmental costs of modern food
systems,
and the policy reversals needed to democratize food systems."
LOL! Lordy, another one. "Why don't we get together and call
ourselves an 'Institute'" --Paul Simon.
One can't help wondering how much real good such "institutes"
that'd presume to tell the world what it "needs" could do in that same
world if they used their resources and efforts to actually DO SOMETHING
that might make some poor *******'s life a little less miserable or a
little more "sustainable" instead of promulgating yet another
"multimedia" propaganda broadsheet that accomplishes absolutely nothing
except to make a cadre of intellectual twits, mistaking "thinking"
writing and talking for actually _doing_, feel a little less guilty
about its lifestyle. I do not believe for one instant that a single
child will go to bed with a fuller tummy tonight, a year from now, or
five years from now as even an indirect result of the "efforts" of this
"Institute" or of a thousand others like it.
What the hell does the unrelenting stream of obsolete 19th-Century
"leveller" collectivist socio-economic propaganda in the ng have to do
with actual gardening, anyway? Isn't there a forum in which the
world-changers can get together to natter at each other about their
refined and superior sensibilities?
So in less than 3 hours you have pronounced judgement on a document
that you have not looked at.
Looks like something that Vandana Shiva might be involved in. I look
forward to reading it.
I'm impressed with your physic abilities.
He may be right, Bill. Bal's way has the efficiency of not requiring
anyone to do anything. Being insensitive and uncaring is certainly
easier than crying doom to all who will listen. I mean, will all our
****ing and moaning be any more effective than Bal sticking his head in
the sand? God, I hope so.
In todays food news, the government is trying to figure out how bad the
doo-doo on your meat has to be before it is recalled. The presence of E.
coli affirms the presence of doo-doo, but not all E. coli are
pathogenic. The T-Rex of E. coli is E. coli 0157:O7, but there are 6
others that are nearly as bad.
"Although the federal government, and the beef and produce industries
have known about the risk posed by these other dangerous bacteria for
years, regulators have taken few concrete steps to directly address it,
or even measure the scope of the problem."
"³This is something that we really have to look at,² said Senator
Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrat of New York, who plans to introduce a bill
that would pre-empt the Agriculture Department by declaring a broad
range of disease-causing E. coli to be illegal in ground beef and
requiring the meat industry to begin testing for the microbes. ³How many
people do we have to see die or become seriously ill because of food
poisoning?²"
"A physiological quirk of E. coli O157 makes it easy to test for in the
lab, and many types of food are screened for it. The other E. coli
strains are much harder to identify and testing can be time-consuming.
The Agriculture Department has been working to develop tests that could
be used in meat plants to rapidly detect the pathogens."
You wonder if anyone has ever thought about slowing down the conveyer
belts in the abattoirs, and allowing for a cleaner, safer slaughter (for
the workers, not the animals). Still, it is good to know that our
government wants us to only eat safe doo-doo, and not sickness causing
doo-doo. Their other idea is to use radiation to sterilize the doo-doo,
but as Marion Nestlé said,"It's still (doo-doo)."
Kinda reminds me of a recent conversation about collecting rainwater off
of a roof and how sanitary that is, but with meat you have to pay for it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/business/27bugs.html
May 26, 2010
In E. Coli Fight, Some Strains Are Largely Ignored
Personally I believe that nothing can be done unless it presents itself
in front of you. My choices that are afforded response from remote
others can be construed to be a local decision . (What) Otherwise I
have no power and await the next impulse from without. I can yield and
help it go where it wants sometimes with a small push. Yielding to get
your own way even if I do not where that is.
Still I think food local REAL local is primay.
I have been reviewing the way I have been addressing others and I seem
to have fallen from my Ideal of always writing like I am addressing my
best friend. I think I will retire for awhile as words should not hurt.
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Passion is good. Don't be hard on yourself, you're only human ;O)
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html
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