Hi guys,
I wasn't going to be tempted into reaction but.....
I haven't seen the tree this is about but I think I can imagine what you are
talking about.
For starters Marc does have a Japanese training background .
As bonsai started to develope over here we did not have access to all of
that great yamadori material as you have in USA or the material you find in
Japan.What we did have was a lot of
greeneries so.....We were forced to let our imagination work with what we
had available.
This once caused Mr. Kimura to say that specificly that would be the reason
he expected bonsai in Europe would take such a high flight.
Another point is the hiding off.....I once asked an elderly Japanese Master
what it was that made the value of a tree????
He answered me that this was the way its faults were hidden or transferred.
Point three, what about developing a tree over years and years to come.
The curly bit is only to get the foliage back to the trunk and still look a
little attractive from the first styling on. Also to leave enough
possibilities open to make changes if necessary as the tree developes or not
over the years(as was here I think when the apex died).
The intention is that you do cut back year after year which in due time will
lessen the amount of curls in a branch and depending on which one developes
best also the selection of branches.
I am surprised to see that where patience and amount of time to develope a
tree is always the first thing people tell the newbies, people seem to
forget that this still applies when you are doing bonsai a little longer.

The matter of taste is nondiscussable but just imagine what you would do
yourself with the starting material?????
Just a few thaughts.


Elize Marie mann
Epe Holland

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: dalecochoy
Aan:
Verzonden: woensdag 26 februari 2003 4:12
Onderwerp: [IBC] An interesting tree and great stylist


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lewis"
Subject: [IBC] An interesting tree and great stylist


I had a mixed reaction when I originally read the article
and
still do after exploring it again with your comments in mind.
The final results may look great but is it still a crappy tree?

Is it only a façade? Things hidden behind things etc.
The main trunk branches etc. are shaped but do they possess the
qualities of a good tree, as defined by our peers. Will this tree
ever
grow into a good tree?
Anton

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This was pretty much MY reaction, too. It's a bit like making a
COTTON purse out of a sow's ear.

Jim Lewis

:)
Well...that settles it. Apparently you guys are WAY out of my league ( and
Marc Noelanders' also I guess). Jim, do you have some free time for me to
come down and study with you this Summer?? Perhaps you can show me how to
turn my "sow's ears" into cotton purses?
Regards,
Dale Cochoy, Wild Things Bonsai Studio, Hartville, Ohio
http://www.WildThingsBonsai.Com
Specializing in power wood carving tools.
Yakimono no Kokoro bonsai pottery of hand-built stoneware


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