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Ohioguy wrote:
Laboratory studies have shown teratogenic effects of roundup in
animals[13] [14]. These reports have proposed that the teratogenics are
caused by impaired retinoicacid signaling[15]. A 2011 report by Earth
Open Source asserts that the roundup active ingredient - glyphosate -
has caused birth defects in laboratory animal tests[16].
I would question the initial assumptions of any study done by a group
called "Earth Open Source". Most likely, they simply decided that they
wanted to see certain results, then did what they could in the study to
try to make them happen.
A 2008 scientific study has shown that Roundup formulations and
metabolic products cause the death of human embryonic, placental, and
umbilical cells in vitro, even at low concentrations.
Yep, applying various chemicals directly to a human embryo will do
that. Peanut butter and jelly probably will, too. However, in real
life they are a bit less likely to come into direct contact with a human
embryo, don't you think?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21338670
Reprod Toxicol. 2011 May;31(4):528-33. Epub 2011 Feb 18.
Maternal and fetal exposure to pesticides associated to genetically
modified foods in Eastern Townships of Quebec, Canada.
Aris A, Leblanc S.
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Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Sherbrooke
Hospital Centre, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada; Clinical Research Centre of
Sherbrooke University Hospital Centre, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada;
Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences, University of Sherbrooke,
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada.
Abstract
Pesticides associated to genetically modified foods (PAGMF), are
engineered to tolerate herbicides such as glyphosate (GLYP) and
gluphosinate (GLUF) or insecticides such as the bacterial toxin bacillus
thuringiensis (Bt). The aim of this study was to evaluate the
correlation between maternal and fetal exposure, and to determine
exposure levels of GLYP and its metabolite aminomethyl phosphoric acid
(AMPA), GLUF and its metabolite 3-methylphosphinicopropionic acid
(3-MPPA) and Cry1Ab protein (a Bt toxin) in Eastern Townships of Quebec,
Canada. Blood of thirty pregnant women (PW) and thirty-nine nonpregnant
women (NPW) were studied. Serum GLYP and GLUF were detected in NPW and
not detected in PW. Serum 3-MPPA and CryAb1 toxin were detected in PW,
their fetuses and NPW. This is the first study to reveal the presence of
circulating PAGMF in women with and without pregnancy, paving the way
for a new field in reproductive toxicology including nutrition and
utero-placental toxicities.
Deliberate ingestion of Roundup herbicide in quantities ranging from 85
to 200 ml has resulted in death within hours of ingestion,
Wow, I'm sure there is a whole list of various products, not meant
for human consumption, that would cause discomfort or death if we ate
them. How about that box of roofing nails out in the garage?
Now I know I'm just being a bit hard on you. Obviously it would be
safer if we didn't use any pesticides. However, that isn't going to
happen, and there are times that crops would completely fail without
them. I'm just saying that I question the impartiality of any studies
out there, because the studies are often funded by groups that are
wanting to bolster a certain, pre-determined point of view. The
environmental groups want to prove that things are dangerous, while the
companies that make the products want to prove that they are not. It's
not good science. I try to see both sides of the issue, because most of
my relatives are farmers, but I also have a BS in Environmental Studies.
I'm not ready to go organic, and probably never will. However, I do
try to only use insecticides, fungicides and such after I have verified
a problem that is spreading. Several times I've waited too long and
lost most of a crop. Even so, I'm not comfortable with spraying "just
in case". I figure that my "spraying as necessary" approach probably
only uses 10% of the chemicals that most of the fruits and vegetables at
the store have on them. Plus, I know which chemicals were used, and
they tend to be those that don't hang around as long.
No one said that you weren't stupid.
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