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Starting a new veg plot.
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Ohioguy wrote: Laboratory studies have shown teratogenic effects of roundup in animals[13] [14]. These reports have proposed that the teratogenics are caused by impaired retinoicacid signaling[15]. A 2011 report by Earth Open Source asserts that the roundup active ingredient - glyphosate - has caused birth defects in laboratory animal tests[16]. I would question the initial assumptions of any study done by a group called "Earth Open Source". Most likely, they simply decided that they wanted to see certain results, then did what they could in the study to try to make them happen. A 2008 scientific study has shown that Roundup formulations and metabolic products cause the death of human embryonic, placental, and umbilical cells in vitro, even at low concentrations. Yep, applying various chemicals directly to a human embryo will do that. Peanut butter and jelly probably will, too. However, in real life they are a bit less likely to come into direct contact with a human embryo, don't you think? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21338670 Reprod Toxicol. 2011 May;31(4):528-33. Epub 2011 Feb 18. Maternal and fetal exposure to pesticides associated to genetically modified foods in Eastern Townships of Quebec, Canada. Aris A, Leblanc S. Source Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Sherbrooke Hospital Centre, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada; Clinical Research Centre of Sherbrooke University Hospital Centre, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada; Faculty of Medicine and Health Sciences, University of Sherbrooke, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada. Abstract Pesticides associated to genetically modified foods (PAGMF), are engineered to tolerate herbicides such as glyphosate (GLYP) and gluphosinate (GLUF) or insecticides such as the bacterial toxin bacillus thuringiensis (Bt). The aim of this study was to evaluate the correlation between maternal and fetal exposure, and to determine exposure levels of GLYP and its metabolite aminomethyl phosphoric acid (AMPA), GLUF and its metabolite 3-methylphosphinicopropionic acid (3-MPPA) and Cry1Ab protein (a Bt toxin) in Eastern Townships of Quebec, Canada. Blood of thirty pregnant women (PW) and thirty-nine nonpregnant women (NPW) were studied. Serum GLYP and GLUF were detected in NPW and not detected in PW. Serum 3-MPPA and CryAb1 toxin were detected in PW, their fetuses and NPW. This is the first study to reveal the presence of circulating PAGMF in women with and without pregnancy, paving the way for a new field in reproductive toxicology including nutrition and utero-placental toxicities. Deliberate ingestion of Roundup herbicide in quantities ranging from 85 to 200 ml has resulted in death within hours of ingestion, Wow, I'm sure there is a whole list of various products, not meant for human consumption, that would cause discomfort or death if we ate them. How about that box of roofing nails out in the garage? Now I know I'm just being a bit hard on you. Obviously it would be safer if we didn't use any pesticides. However, that isn't going to happen, and there are times that crops would completely fail without them. I'm just saying that I question the impartiality of any studies out there, because the studies are often funded by groups that are wanting to bolster a certain, pre-determined point of view. The environmental groups want to prove that things are dangerous, while the companies that make the products want to prove that they are not. It's not good science. I try to see both sides of the issue, because most of my relatives are farmers, but I also have a BS in Environmental Studies. I'm not ready to go organic, and probably never will. However, I do try to only use insecticides, fungicides and such after I have verified a problem that is spreading. Several times I've waited too long and lost most of a crop. Even so, I'm not comfortable with spraying "just in case". I figure that my "spraying as necessary" approach probably only uses 10% of the chemicals that most of the fruits and vegetables at the store have on them. Plus, I know which chemicals were used, and they tend to be those that don't hang around as long. No one said that you weren't stupid. -- - Billy Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria of the American political landscape. America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash. It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the uber-rich. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore /michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/ |
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