In article , Jake
writes
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:11:22 -0500, "JIP"
wrote:

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You might try posting your question in uk.d-i-y

Or subscribe to 'Over the Gate' http://overthegate.myfreeforum.org/;
an excellent forum for all sorts of craft and rural matters.

Roy.
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Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.