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Old 12-10-2011, 07:00 PM posted to rec.gardens
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songbird wrote:

One of my seed merchants offers "organically grown seeds" for some species.
Apparently this means they are better because no chemferts or sprays were
used while they were grown. Other than the possibility that such a
product
was a better (or even a different) cultivar than the others I am unclear on
the exact benefits. If there is something nasty that can be transferred
via
just the seed into your environment or into the seeds themselves caused by
growing non-organically? What might that be? I don't know.


the main thing is to avoid the GMO strain that
is glyphosate tolerant developed by you know who...
i did grow some of those last year and they are
mostly developed for oil or animal feed and not for
taste. i used them to make soymilk and they were
a little different in taste than what i was used
to, but i used them anyways. this year instead i
bought a bag from the health food store that was
labeled organic so that means they were grown without
the use of glyphosate and were likely to not be the
same beans. i'd bought a few pounds and made soymilk
with half of them and it was noticeably different and
more like what i was used to in terms of taste. so
i'm hoping i'm on the right track. we'll see how
the harvest goes when they are ready. if they are
dry enough and don't spoil or sprout in the pods,
etc.

in my readings about beans/dry beans, Michigan is
a large producer of organic beans (but most of them
are grown east of here in the "thumb" region) and
organic green beans.

i'm not worried about transferring any specific
chemical as i think they would be broken down in
time by the critters/fungi in the soil. as these
are podded things the most residue is going to be
on the pod and not the beans (if there is any at
all).


Numero uno: You may want to take a peek at
http://www.amazon.com/Seeds-Deceptio...y-Engineered/d
p/0972966587/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279731204&sr=1-1

Seeds of Deception: Exposing Industry and Government Lies About the
Safety of the Genetically Engineered Foods You're Eating [Paperback]
Jeffrey M. Smith (Author)

The main points of interest being the anti-biotic markers, cauliflower
mosaic virus, and spliceosomes.

Numero two-o: Article in todays business section that recounts that soy
oil futures are falling as as its consumption has quadrupled. The gist
of the story is that it is a good time to speculate on soybean futures.
In English, place your wagers and see the price of soybeans go up.
Commodity speculation used to be banned in the U.S. until the 1970's,
because it was detrimental to consumers.

Numero three-o: If you don't have tits now, you can get them from the
phytoestrogens in soy, or taking baths with lavender oil.

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Short of getting GMO seeds, the next worst thing about seeds is that
they may carry the spores for wilt, or blight.

http://www.i-sis.org.uk/glyphosatePoisonsCrops.php
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- Billy
Both the House and Senate budget plan would have cut Social Security and Medicare, while cutting taxes on the wealthy.

Kucinich noted that none of the government programs targeted for
elimination or severe cutback in House Republican spending plans
"appeared on the GAO's list of government programs at high risk of
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