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Old 15-03-2012, 11:35 PM posted to uk.rec.gardening
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:21:33 -0700 (PDT), Dave Hill
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On Mar 15, 10:31*am, lannerman
wrote:
'Pam Moore[_2_ Wrote:
Almost certainly Judas tree, cercis siliquastrum.
It flowers on the trunk and older wood. *A beautiful tree when in
flower. I would find some pods with seeds in and sow some. *Not all
pods contain viable seeds.


Pam in Bristol


Hi Pam, do you have any tips about germinating these ?? Ive tried many
times with no success, i've tried fresh seed, seed left on the tree
until now but nothing !!!! I must admit that every time I've tried, its
from the same tree in a clients garden so maybe this tree just doesnt
produce viable seed !!
regards, Lannerman.

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I'm afraid I don't go for Judas Tree, the pods and the stems they are
on look to long and the stems to lax.
I'd go for Robinia if it is in the UK.
I've germinated several different Pod seeds gathered in Malta and
other places.
I treat them as I do all hard seed and pot them into Hot water, (Not
boiling), this expands the air inside the seed case, and as the water
cools the air left shrinks and water is drawn inside the casing, I
leave them overnight and sow the next morning.
David @ the normally wet end of Swansea Bay, now in the 6th day of
drought.


I still say Judas tree David, but I'm not as familiar with robinia.
Having grown a Judas tree from seed and grown it for 20 years, I sadly
had to get rid of it as it got too big. I see those branches as an
old friend, pods right, twig formation right, wood the right colour
with the greyish bloom. We can't see all the tree, but the habit of
this one is a bit strange. OP, any chance of a photo of the trunk?
Does robinia have flowers up the stems in the same way?

Lannerman, I've not used David's hot water method, so maybe that's why
only some of the seed I've sown has germinated. After I had mine cut
down I found a self-set seedling, but it didn't survive the first hard
winter, 3 years ago.

Pam in Bristol