On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 05:25:15 -0400, "Ray @ First Rays Orchids"
wrote:

I know this is self-serving, but FWIW, I developed an all-natural leaf
cleaner / shine that folks have found is also a good insecticide (but I
don't claim that, as I'm not EPA registered). It's called Rise & Shine, and
is available via the online store at the URL below.

YOu just beat me to the statement - so we can pretend you didn't
post if you like... I will take credit for sending Dave to see
you. And yes Dave, I do use it for both bugs and cleaner
foliage.
Switched from Alcohol to Rise & Shine.

See Ray at WWW.FirstRays.com

SuE
http://orchids.legolas.org/gallery/albums.php