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Cutting down the forest for the trees

Just over the Vermont line from Rowe is a vast lowland forest called Lamb
Brook, filled with giant beech and maple trees that provide food for bears and
shelter for migratory songbirds. A few years ago, the U.S. Forest Service
proposed to open up this part of the Green Mountain National Forest to logging,
but an immense popular outcry and a successful lawsuit in federal court by a
local environmental group, Green Mountain Forest Watch, saved Lamb Brook. For a
little while, anyway.
Anyone who's taken a driving trip out west has seen the way the national
forests are managed there, whole hillsides scalped to the bare earth for mile
after mile and replanted as tree farms. In Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine,
the hillsides are greener. The difference lies in citizen participation. The
National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, requires decisions on the national
forests, including the writing of the "forest plans" that govern their use, to
be open to citizens. Out west, the timber industry dominates the process. Here,
more people live near the forests and prefer to use them for recreation.

Now, a seemingly innocuous rules change proposed by the Bush administration
would take away the rights of citizens to intervene in timber sales and hand
the timber industry a mandate to clear-cut the national forests. The U.S.
Department of Agriculture official in charge of the Forest Service is Mark Rey,
a former timber industry lobbyist. He has found a loophole in NEPA that exempts
decisions with no environmental impact, like painting the outhouses at rest
areas, from public review. Rey's clever idea was to expand that loophole to the
writing of forest plans, so they could be rewritten to favor logging over
environmental protection and citizens would have no right to object.

There has been a tremendous outcry from environmental groups, which would be
completely frozen out, and even from the Forest Service's own scientists, whose
recommendations are being ignored. Sadly, there's little anyone can do. As a
rules change, the measure doesn't have to go through Congress. There will be a
90-day comment period, after which the Bush administration is free to ignore
the comments.

This is no reason not to comment. The administration ended its bid to lower
arsenic standards in drinking water after a huge public outcry, so write
everyone from the supervisor of the Green Mountain National Forest to the White
House. And go see Lamb Brook while you still can. Heading north out of
Heartwellville, the hard-to-spot trailhead is on the north side of Route 100.

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Cutting down the forest for the trees

Just over the Vermont line from Rowe is a vast lowland forest called Lamb
Brook, filled with giant beech and maple trees that provide food for bears and
shelter for migratory songbirds. A few years ago, the U.S. Forest Service
proposed to open up this part of the Green Mountain National Forest to logging,
but an immense popular outcry and a successful lawsuit in federal court by a
local environmental group, Green Mountain Forest Watch, saved Lamb Brook. For a
little while, anyway.
Anyone who's taken a driving trip out west has seen the way the national
forests are managed there, whole hillsides scalped to the bare earth for mile
after mile and replanted as tree farms.

Obviously, this person has not actually BEEN out west. Most of what I
see on Federal lands are overstocked and unhealthy forests. This
person has to be talking about Pacific Northwest private timber
industry lands. Again, clearcutting (over 5 acres) has been
specifically banned since the early 90's in the USFS Region 5
(California).

In Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine,
the hillsides are greener. The difference lies in citizen participation. The
National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, requires decisions on the national
forests, including the writing of the "forest plans" that govern their use, to
be open to citizens. Out west, the timber industry dominates the process.

Is that why Federal timber volumes in the West are down by at least an
order of magnitude since the Spotted Owl? Why didn't the timber
industry block the decision to voluntarily and radically reduce timber
harvests to protect the unlisted California Spotted Owl in California
(including the nearly universal ban on harvesting trees over 30" in
diameter)?

Here,
more people live near the forests and prefer to use them for recreation.

Now, a seemingly innocuous rules change proposed by the Bush administration
would take away the rights of citizens to intervene in timber sales and hand
the timber industry a mandate to clear-cut the national forests. The U.S.
Department of Agriculture official in charge of the Forest Service is Mark Rey,
a former timber industry lobbyist. He has found a loophole in NEPA that exempts
decisions with no environmental impact, like painting the outhouses at rest
areas, from public review. Rey's clever idea was to expand that loophole to the
writing of forest plans, so they could be rewritten to favor logging over
environmental protection and citizens would have no right to object.

There has been a tremendous outcry from environmental groups, which would be
completely frozen out, and even from the Forest Service's own scientists, whose
recommendations are being ignored. Sadly, there's little anyone can do. As a
rules change, the measure doesn't have to go through Congress. There will be a
90-day comment period, after which the Bush administration is free to ignore
the comments.

If the comments has no basis in truth or science, why pay much
attention to them? To me, there is a tremendous potential to educate
the public by including them in the process. Rebuilding the public's
trust in the Forest Service should be the ultimate goal. However,
reaching that goal may take a lifetime because of the track record of
the USFS. Some will never trust again and I can understand that.

As a federal employee, I would welcome the chance to prove to the
public that the decisions that I make in the woods are based on
science and my extensive experience in my field. However, not every
employee feels this way and wants to hide their work to the public.
Also, many USFS units readily OK "field trips" for anyone wanting to
see what the Forest Service is doing. You can still get involved with
the process and won't be locked out.

Larry eco-forestry rules!

In article ,
writes:

Anyone who's taken a driving trip out west has seen the way the national
forests are managed there, whole hillsides scalped to the bare earth for mile
after mile and replanted as tree farms.

Obviously, this person has not actually BEEN out west. Most of what I
see on Federal lands are overstocked and unhealthy forests. This
person has to be talking about Pacific Northwest private timber
industry lands. Again, clearcutting (over 5 acres) has been
specifically banned since the early 90's in the USFS Region 5
(California).

I don't know about Washington, but the Oregon Forest Practices Act bans
clear cuts of over 80 acres. That is 1/8 of a square mile. However,
private lands have indeed been replanted as tree farms, because that is
exactly what they are. Federal lands in the PNW are pretty much as you
describe.

--
http://home.teleport.com/~larryc

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Cutting down the forest for the trees

Just over the Vermont line from Rowe is a vast lowland forest called Lamb
Brook, filled with giant beech and maple trees that provide food for bears and
shelter for migratory songbirds. A few years ago, the U.S. Forest Service
proposed to open up this part of the Green Mountain National Forest to logging,
but an immense popular outcry and a successful lawsuit in federal court by a
local environmental group, Green Mountain Forest Watch, saved Lamb Brook. For a
little while, anyway.
Anyone who's taken a driving trip out west has seen the way the national
forests are managed there, whole hillsides scalped to the bare earth for mile
after mile and replanted as tree farms.

Obviously, this person has not actually BEEN out west. Most of what I
see on Federal lands are overstocked and unhealthy forests.


As it will be again = if they find no large timber to cut!

This
person has to be talking about Pacific Northwest private timber
industry lands. Again, clearcutting (over 5 acres) has been
specifically banned since the early 90's in the USFS Region 5
(California).

In Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine,
the hillsides are greener. The difference lies in citizen participation. The
National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, requires decisions on the national
forests, including the writing of the "forest plans" that govern their use, to
be open to citizens. Out west, the timber industry dominates the process.

Is that why Federal timber volumes in the West are down by at least an
order of magnitude since the Spotted Owl? Why didn't the timber
industry block the decision to voluntarily and radically reduce timber
harvests to protect the unlisted California Spotted Owl in California
(including the nearly universal ban on harvesting trees over 30" in
diameter)?

Oh they did much better! Since the 1981 seminal research report on
old-growth forests which indicated that some species may need
old-growth forests to survive, the Froest service immediately
responded to this hard question by logging as much old growth forest
as it could in the 1980's!

Indeed it was one ploy of the Forest Service to focus on the Spotted
Owl over all the other species of concern so that they could minimize
the view of the problem at hand = Thus minimizing the other species!

Finally in 1992, District Judge Bill Dwyer ordered the Forest Service
to end all such old-growth cutting until protection for all the
endangered species in the forests was considered!

A Panel set up by the Forest Service to study this concept found there
was little if any scientific information on the other species of the
area! This included 328 species which very little was known about!

The 1994 Northwest Forest Plan called for surveys that would protect
these old-growth species until it was established what specific needs
each would have to survive@!

However the Forest services response was to act as if no plan was to
be viewed. Biologists wer not allowed to go out and carry out these
surveys! Operations in progess were stopped! Even so the Forest
service sought to exempt species from protection until Judge Dwyer in
1999 ordered no such exemptions would exist without the surveys!

With Dwyer gone and the Bush regime in control, Bush is set to return
to the old 1980's clear cutting = especially after meeting in closed
door meeting with timber interests!

Is that why Federal timber volumes in the West are down by at least an
order of magnitude since the Spotted Owl? Why didn't the timber
industry block the decision to voluntarily and radically reduce timber
harvests to protect the unlisted California Spotted Owl in California
(including the nearly universal ban on harvesting trees over 30" in
diameter)?

Oh they did much better! Since the 1981 seminal research report on
old-growth forests which indicated that some species may need
old-growth forests to survive, the Froest service immediately
responded to this hard question by logging as much old growth forest
as it could in the 1980's!

Indeed it was one ploy of the Forest Service to focus on the Spotted
Owl over all the other species of concern so that they could minimize
the view of the problem at hand = Thus minimizing the other species!

Finally in 1992, District Judge Bill Dwyer ordered the Forest Service
to end all such old-growth cutting until protection for all the
endangered species in the forests was considered!

A Panel set up by the Forest Service to study this concept found there
was little if any scientific information on the other species of the
area! This included 328 species which very little was known about!

The 1994 Northwest Forest Plan called for surveys that would protect
these old-growth species until it was established what specific needs
each would have to survive@!

However the Forest services response was to act as if no plan was to
be viewed. Biologists wer not allowed to go out and carry out these
surveys! Operations in progess were stopped! Even so the Forest
service sought to exempt species from protection until Judge Dwyer in
1999 ordered no such exemptions would exist without the surveys!

With Dwyer gone and the Bush regime in control, Bush is set to return
to the old 1980's clear cutting = especially after meeting in closed
door meeting with timber interests!

With Republicans in power, "preservationists" have now become so
alarmist that they are now saying that the forest's "sky is falling"
and destructive logging will again dominate. From my point of view,
the Forest Service cannot and will not go back to even the 80's style
of "overstory removal". Eco-forestry is here to stay in MY little
corner of the USFS. The "mouthy minority" team of the media and the
preservationists is wearing thin on the American public (as well as
the Chief of the Forest Service).

I've been watching that pendulum swing one way for so long and
worrying that when it swings back, it could go way too far back.

Larry

Now this article's not one-sided...
So, mainly what I want to know is when the sky is going to fall???

ha ha ha,
Geoff
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Cutting down the forest for the trees

Just over the Vermont line from Rowe is a vast lowland forest called Lamb
Brook, filled with giant beech and maple trees that provide food for bears and
shelter for migratory songbirds. A few years ago, the U.S. Forest Service
proposed to open up this part of the Green Mountain National Forest to logging,
but an immense popular outcry and a successful lawsuit in federal court by a
local environmental group, Green Mountain Forest Watch, saved Lamb Brook. For a
little while, anyway.
Anyone who's taken a driving trip out west has seen the way the national
forests are managed there, whole hillsides scalped to the bare earth for mile
after mile and replanted as tree farms. In Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine,
the hillsides are greener. The difference lies in citizen participation. The
National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, requires decisions on the national
forests, including the writing of the "forest plans" that govern their use, to
be open to citizens. Out west, the timber industry dominates the process. Here,
more people live near the forests and prefer to use them for recreation.

Now, a seemingly innocuous rules change proposed by the Bush administration
would take away the rights of citizens to intervene in timber sales and hand
the timber industry a mandate to clear-cut the national forests. The U.S.
Department of Agriculture official in charge of the Forest Service is Mark Rey,
a former timber industry lobbyist. He has found a loophole in NEPA that exempts
decisions with no environmental impact, like painting the outhouses at rest
areas, from public review. Rey's clever idea was to expand that loophole to the
writing of forest plans, so they could be rewritten to favor logging over
environmental protection and citizens would have no right to object.

There has been a tremendous outcry from environmental groups, which would be
completely frozen out, and even from the Forest Service's own scientists, whose
recommendations are being ignored. Sadly, there's little anyone can do. As a
rules change, the measure doesn't have to go through Congress. There will be a
90-day comment period, after which the Bush administration is free to ignore
the comments.

This is no reason not to comment. The administration ended its bid to lower
arsenic standards in drinking water after a huge public outcry, so write
everyone from the supervisor of the Green Mountain National Forest to the White
House. And go see Lamb Brook while you still can. Heading north out of
Heartwellville, the hard-to-spot trailhead is on the north side of Route 100.