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are these reasons enough for their selling their land:

three thousand dollars per acre of land in the northern half of the state of
georgia approximately within 50-100 miles (or however many miles) of the
metropolitan atlanta area is seemingly financially better for the owners than
the slow demand for wood

in order to partially payoff their debt from their mergers and acquisitions

i suppose they don't generally sell their lands until the ready timber is
harvested (?), or is the demand so low that it's not as important (?)

and is now the time to buy land when so much is being offered?

and where would you buy if cheap acres of land were available?








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are these reasons enough for their selling their land:

three thousand dollars per acre of land in the northern half of the state of
georgia approximately within 50-100 miles (or however many miles) of the
metropolitan atlanta area is seemingly financially better for the owners
than
the slow demand for wood

in order to partially payoff their debt from their mergers and acquisitions

i suppose they don't generally sell their lands until the ready timber is
harvested (?), or is the demand so low that it's not as important (?)

and is now the time to buy land when so much is being offered?

and where would you buy if cheap acres of land were available?


Wrong on ALL accounts = They went to maximize their profits theought Clear-cuts
-= now they need to move on to maximize profits elsewhere!
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Old 07-08-2003, 02:22 PM
Larry Harrell
 
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(Aozotorp) wrote in message ...


are these reasons enough for their selling their land:

three thousand dollars per acre of land in the northern half of the state of
georgia approximately within 50-100 miles (or however many miles) of the
metropolitan atlanta area is seemingly financially better for the owners
than
the slow demand for wood

in order to partially payoff their debt from their mergers and acquisitions

i suppose they don't generally sell their lands until the ready timber is
harvested (?), or is the demand so low that it's not as important (?)

and is now the time to buy land when so much is being offered?

and where would you buy if cheap acres of land were available?


Wrong on ALL accounts = They went to maximize their profits theought Clear-cuts
-= now they need to move on to maximize profits elsewhere!


Bullpucky! During these times, Weyerhauser has to use many different
techniques in order to maximize their profits. As land closer to
cities becomes more valuable, it's good business to sell it and buy
cheap forest land father away. They've also been involved in land
trades with the USFS to help consolidate their holdings. Yes, they do
love their clearcuts but they also reforest them very quickly. The
pulp market in the South is quite depressed and it sometimes makes
good business sense to sell off acres that are far from the more
lucrative sawlog market.

What's wrong with businesses that want to maximize their profits?
Isn't that the American Way? SOME clearcutting on SOME lands can be
accomplished with very little in the way of impacts and reducing the
need to overcut on more sensitive lands (like northern Canada).

Maybe someday you will learn to see the big picture.

Larry, on a mission from God (to educate Americans on forest
management) G
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Old 07-08-2003, 04:43 PM
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Larry Harrell wrote:
(Aozotorp) wrote in message ...


are these reasons enough for their selling their land:

three thousand dollars per acre of land in the northern half of the state of
georgia approximately within 50-100 miles (or however many miles) of the
metropolitan atlanta area is seemingly financially better for the owners
than
the slow demand for wood

in order to partially payoff their debt from their mergers and acquisitions

i suppose they don't generally sell their lands until the ready timber is
harvested (?), or is the demand so low that it's not as important (?)

and is now the time to buy land when so much is being offered?

and where would you buy if cheap acres of land were available?


Wrong on ALL accounts = They went to maximize their profits theought Clear-cuts
-= now they need to move on to maximize profits elsewhere!


Bullpucky! During these times, Weyerhauser has to use many different
techniques in order to maximize their profits. As land closer to
cities becomes more valuable, it's good business to sell it and buy
cheap forest land father away. They've also been involved in land
trades with the USFS to help consolidate their holdings. Yes, they do
love their clearcuts but they also reforest them very quickly. The
pulp market in the South is quite depressed and it sometimes makes
good business sense to sell off acres that are far from the more
lucrative sawlog market.

What's wrong with businesses that want to maximize their profits?
Isn't that the American Way? SOME clearcutting on SOME lands can be
accomplished with very little in the way of impacts and reducing the
need to overcut on more sensitive lands (like northern Canada).

Maybe someday you will learn to see the big picture.

Larry, on a mission from God (to educate Americans on forest
management) G


They're all doing it one way or another. With log prices down land is
going to developers (usually a division of the same company) who
subdivide to make dozens and dozens of mini ranches. The flip side is
that some big chunks are also going into conservation easements, since
the cost of logging on those parcels far exceeds the timber value.

If somebody's got the pocket change to buy a piece before it's divided,
more power to 'em.

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Old 07-08-2003, 07:04 PM
Larry Caldwell
 
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(Robert Cohen) writes:
are these reasons enough for their selling their land:


three thousand dollars per acre of land in the northern half of the state of
georgia approximately within 50-100 miles (or however many miles) of the
metropolitan atlanta area is seemingly financially better for the owners than
the slow demand for wood


It could be, but there could be other reasons. The most likely reason is
that urban encroachment is making forest management difficult, while
presenting a great opportunity for profit from land sale.

in order to partially payoff their debt from their mergers and acquisitions


Of fund further acquisitions. Corporations don't have any emotional
attachment to a particular parcel.

i suppose they don't generally sell their lands until the ready timber is
harvested (?), or is the demand so low that it's not as important (?)


Probably. You can bet that 90% of the land is in plantations in various
stages of growth.

and is now the time to buy land when so much is being offered?


If you have the money, I would certainly talk to them. There is usually
room to do some wheeling and dealing in an 8 or 9 figure deal. I think
it was when Louisiana Pacific closed out their Oregon holdings, Roseburg
Forest Products bought about 300,000 acres for $245 million. (Going from
a memory of a newspaper article from years ago here, so just take this as
an illustration).

and where would you buy if cheap acres of land were available?


Wherever the land was. It's not like you can move it. An hour north of
Atlanta doesn't sound bad for a location, though. I have a nephew who
lives in that area. Nice country.

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are these reasons enough for their selling their land:

three thousand dollars per acre of land in the northern half of the state

of
georgia approximately within 50-100 miles (or however many miles) of the
metropolitan atlanta area is seemingly financially better for the owners
than
the slow demand for wood

in order to partially payoff their debt from their mergers and

acquisitions

i suppose they don't generally sell their lands until the ready timber is
harvested (?), or is the demand so low that it's not as important (?)

and is now the time to buy land when so much is being offered?

and where would you buy if cheap acres of land were available?


Wrong on ALL accounts = They went to maximize their profits theought

Clear-cuts
-= now they need to move on to maximize profits elsewhere!


Bullpucky! During these times, Weyerhauser has to use many different
techniques in order to maximize their profits. As land closer to
cities becomes more valuable, it's good business to sell it and buy
cheap forest land father away. They've also been involved in land
trades with the USFS to help consolidate their holdings. Yes, they do
love their clearcuts but they also reforest them very quickly. The
pulp market in the South is quite depressed and it sometimes makes
good business sense to sell off acres that are far from the more
lucrative sawlog market.

What's wrong with businesses that want to maximize their profits?
Isn't that the American Way? SOME clearcutting on SOME lands can be
accomplished with very little in the way of impacts and reducing the
need to overcut on more sensitive lands (like northern Canada).

Maybe someday you will learn to see the big picture.

Larry, on a mission from God (to educate Americans on forest
management) G


LOL = You just affirmed everything I said!
 
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