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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots (10/20/30

kg
bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm

merchants would
sell it as well.



Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?


Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd need
a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron deficient
soil.


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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots (10/20/30
kg bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm
merchants would sell it as well.



Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?


Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd need
a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron deficient
soil.


And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations for a week
though, there's some big rain coming in.

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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots (10/20/30
kg bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm
merchants would sell it as well.


Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?


Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd need
a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron deficient
soil.


And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations for a week
though, there's some big rain coming in.


Surely that would be enough to annihilate the whole race of ants. Unless of
course you have giant mutant ants of some sort.

Jen


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Farm1 wrote:
"Jen" wrote in message
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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots

(10/20/30
kg bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm
merchants would sell it as well.


Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?

Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd

need
a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron

deficient
soil.


And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations

for a week
though, there's some big rain coming in.


Surely that would be enough to annihilate the whole race of ants.

Unless of
course you have giant mutant ants of some sort.


Hmmmmm. Given his name, is he wanting to wipe out the relatives?
:-))))))


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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots

(10/20/30
kg bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm
merchants would sell it as well.


Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?


Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd

need
a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron

deficient
soil.


And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations for

a week
though, there's some big rain coming in.


You won't need anything near 10-30 kg to deal with ants. If you use
that much then you'll have effectively poisoned your soil.




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"Jen" wrote in message
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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots
(10/20/30 kg bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm
merchants would sell it as well.


Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?

Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd
need a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron
deficient soil.


And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations for
a week though, there's some big rain coming in.


You won't need anything near 10-30 kg to deal with ants. If you use
that much then you'll have effectively poisoned your soil.


10kg would be too much for 16 acres?

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in NZ we can get it through farm merchants in bulk lots
(10/20/30 kg bags).
Works out cheap though the bag last ages. I guess Aus farm
merchants would sell it as well.


Why would anyone need such big bags? What else is it used for?

Boron deficient soil. It's an important trace element but you'd
need a lot of land and to be growing lots of cabbages in boron
deficient soil.

And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations for
a week though, there's some big rain coming in.


You won't need anything near 10-30 kg to deal with ants. If you use
that much then you'll have effectively poisoned your soil.


10kg would be too much for 16 acres?

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earth. Ants are there for a purpose, great scavengers & cleaner-uppers. You
actually need them
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The idea is to get rid of the nests that cause a problem, NOT scar the
earth. Ants are there for a purpose, great scavengers &
cleaner-uppers. You actually need them


They're wrecking my trees. Maybe I won't kill all of them though,
occasionally a large echidna appears but he doesn't seem to be eating very
many.


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ant wrote:
SG1 wrote:

The idea is to get rid of the nests that cause a problem, NOT scar the
earth. Ants are there for a purpose, great scavengers &
cleaner-uppers. You actually need them


They're wrecking my trees. Maybe I won't kill all of them though,
occasionally a large echidna appears but he doesn't seem to be eating very
many.


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What are they doing that makes you think it is the ants that are
wrecking your trees and what sort of trees are being effected?

The ants may be just a symptom and not the cause of the damage to your
trees.

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And getting those mongrel ants. I'll have to suspend operations

for
a week though, there's some big rain coming in.


You won't need anything near 10-30 kg to deal with ants. If you

use
that much then you'll have effectively poisoned your soil.


10kg would be too much for 16 acres?


Have you done any searches on how much boron you use in an ant killing
station? My understanding is that it is something like tablespoon of
boron to about a half cup of icing sugar. If you use too much borax
on the basis of more is better then that is not so. The ants are not
attracted to the borax but to the icing sugar and they will not take
the bait unless it appeals to them. I know that with boron deficiency
in cabbages, the rate of application is a teaspoon/gallon of water.
That is a tiny amount of Borax and is for an identified deficiency.
Even for apple trees that produce "corky" fruit the remedy is only 4oz
for a mature tree - again a tiny amount.

Boron is a very minutely needed trace element and I would be very
cautious with how much you used and where. My reaction would be to
try to get rid of the problem bringing the ants and to try to use
white oil or some similar mild form of bug control rather than to risk
killing every ant on the place and poisoning your soil. And I'd be
using it only close tot he house if that is where your main problems
of ant infestation and because of incursion into the house.Start small
is always I think a better policy till you see what will occur.




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