"Jonno" wrote in message
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The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they consider to
be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare campaigns regarding
environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy theories.

Of course going back to this site, it wasn't read properly because you're
misquoting it completely, thinking it as rubbish before you read all.
The whole word "conspiracy" is used by people hiding conspiracies.
Look at the Gretch and Turnbull affair. Of course that isn't conspiracy.
Organisations are a complete and organised conspiracy, colluding with
governments.
Why? They have to support each other in order to survive.



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"Jonno" wrote in message
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The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they consider to
be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare campaigns regarding
environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy theories.

"Jonno" wrote in message
...
Of course going back to this site, it wasn't read properly because you're
misquoting it completely, thinking it as rubbish before you read all.

So it's my fault that I haven't read "all" of this site even though
a) there is only the one tab which relates to climate, and
b) you are the one who referred anyone who reads here to that particular
tab?

If you want to be taken seriously then perhaps you could look for sites that
show less of the fringe element such as the Mayan calendar ending guff and
look more for facts.

The whole word "conspiracy" is used by people hiding conspiracies.
Look at the Gretch and Turnbull affair. Of course that isn't conspiracy.
Organisations are a complete and organised conspiracy, colluding with
governments.
Why? They have to support each other in order to survive.

Now is that a 'fact' or are you indulging in your own form of conspiracy
theory?

If you're itnnerested, I found this site which seems, as far as I've managed
to read it, seems to have done some work on gathering together the pro and
con arguments:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/






"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...


The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they consider
to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare campaigns
regarding environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy theories.

It appears you have all the answers.
How about understanding, though there is a change of climate, perhaps the
"scientists" who you are backing are perhaps the same scientists who said
the Ozone layer would be fixed. Man made? I don't think so. Weather has
never been controlled by mere scientists.
Want to put some money on this?
The only problem is none of us will be around to collect it.
So we can make all sorts of wild unsubstantiated claims.
Well I say no, I will not allow us to promise my children's future on some
wild claim.
Its like paying an insurance company which is not capable of paying out.
There is no collateral is there?
Witch hunting those against this is no use. I am not a skeptic, I'm a
realist.
Rabble-ous behaviour isn't it from you.
Time will tell. I wont go on the word of some Al Gore.
But then again I didn't go to any of his meetings either.
But it appears to me as I have more time than you that you haven't looked
around.



"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
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"Jonno" wrote in message
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Of course going back to this site, it wasn't read properly because you're
misquoting it completely, thinking it as rubbish before you read all.

So it's my fault that I haven't read "all" of this site even though
a) there is only the one tab which relates to climate, and
b) you are the one who referred anyone who reads here to that particular
tab?

If you want to be taken seriously then perhaps you could look for sites
that show less of the fringe element such as the Mayan calendar ending
guff and look more for facts.

The whole word "conspiracy" is used by people hiding conspiracies.
Look at the Gretch and Turnbull affair. Of course that isn't conspiracy.
Organisations are a complete and organised conspiracy, colluding with
governments.
Why? They have to support each other in order to survive.

Now is that a 'fact' or are you indulging in your own form of conspiracy
theory?

If you're itnnerested, I found this site which seems, as far as I've
managed to read it, seems to have done some work on gathering together the
pro and con arguments:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/






"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...


The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they consider
to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare campaigns
regarding environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy
theories.

"ArSee" wrote in message
...
It appears you have all the answers.
How about understanding, though there is a change of climate, perhaps the
"scientists" who you are backing

You haven't been paying attention. If you had you'd have noted what I have
said here previously about trying to find out info that TELLS me about the
subject.

are perhaps the same scientists who said
the Ozone layer would be fixed. Man made? I don't think so. Weather has
never been controlled by mere scientists.

Hmmmm. Someone else used to confuse the weather with the climate too. I
think you are a sock.

Want to put some money on this?
The only problem is none of us will be around to collect it.
So we can make all sorts of wild unsubstantiated claims.
Well I say no, I will not allow us to promise my children's future on some
wild claim.
Its like paying an insurance company which is not capable of paying out.
There is no collateral is there?
Witch hunting those against this is no use. I am not a skeptic, I'm a
realist.
Rabble-ous behaviour isn't it from you.
Time will tell. I wont go on the word of some Al Gore.
But then again I didn't go to any of his meetings either.
But it appears to me as I have more time than you that you haven't looked
around.



"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...
Of course going back to this site, it wasn't read properly because
you're misquoting it completely, thinking it as rubbish before you read
all.

So it's my fault that I haven't read "all" of this site even though
a) there is only the one tab which relates to climate, and
b) you are the one who referred anyone who reads here to that particular
tab?

If you want to be taken seriously then perhaps you could look for sites
that show less of the fringe element such as the Mayan calendar ending
guff and look more for facts.

The whole word "conspiracy" is used by people hiding conspiracies.
Look at the Gretch and Turnbull affair. Of course that isn't conspiracy.
Organisations are a complete and organised conspiracy, colluding with
governments.
Why? They have to support each other in order to survive.

Now is that a 'fact' or are you indulging in your own form of conspiracy
theory?

If you're itnnerested, I found this site which seems, as far as I've
managed to read it, seems to have done some work on gathering together
the pro and con arguments:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/






"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...


The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they consider
to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare campaigns
regarding environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy
theories.

Weather ? climate argue any point you like. Whatever you want o confuse
moderate people with.
The problem is, you cant get it right, or if you try to you twist it.
You think taxing the populace is going to fix it?




"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
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"ArSee" wrote in message
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It appears you have all the answers.
How about understanding, though there is a change of climate, perhaps the
"scientists" who you are backing

You haven't been paying attention. If you had you'd have noted what I
have said here previously about trying to find out info that TELLS me
about the subject.

are perhaps the same scientists who said
the Ozone layer would be fixed. Man made? I don't think so. Weather has
never been controlled by mere scientists.

Hmmmm. Someone else used to confuse the weather with the climate too. I
think you are a sock.

Want to put some money on this?
The only problem is none of us will be around to collect it.
So we can make all sorts of wild unsubstantiated claims.
Well I say no, I will not allow us to promise my children's future on
some wild claim.
Its like paying an insurance company which is not capable of paying out.
There is no collateral is there?
Witch hunting those against this is no use. I am not a skeptic, I'm a
realist.
Rabble-ous behaviour isn't it from you.
Time will tell. I wont go on the word of some Al Gore.
But then again I didn't go to any of his meetings either.
But it appears to me as I have more time than you that you haven't looked
around.



"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...
Of course going back to this site, it wasn't read properly because
you're misquoting it completely, thinking it as rubbish before you read
all.

So it's my fault that I haven't read "all" of this site even though
a) there is only the one tab which relates to climate, and
b) you are the one who referred anyone who reads here to that particular
tab?

If you want to be taken seriously then perhaps you could look for sites
that show less of the fringe element such as the Mayan calendar ending
guff and look more for facts.

The whole word "conspiracy" is used by people hiding conspiracies.
Look at the Gretch and Turnbull affair. Of course that isn't
conspiracy.
Organisations are a complete and organised conspiracy, colluding with
governments.
Why? They have to support each other in order to survive.

Now is that a 'fact' or are you indulging in your own form of conspiracy
theory?

If you're itnnerested, I found this site which seems, as far as I've
managed to read it, seems to have done some work on gathering together
the pro and con arguments:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/






"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...


The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
campaigns regarding environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy
theories.

This may be a rude awakening for you, but here is some of what has been
discovered.

"An email sent by one of Prof Jones's colleagues said: "The fact is, that we
can't account for the lack of warming at the moment, and it is a travesty
that we can't."

Prof Jones, whose department has for years refused to release its raw data
on temperatures, wrote another email in which he said sceptics "have been
after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom
of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than
send it to anyone". By chance, he now admits he has "accidentally" deleted
some of the raw data.

Another message said the CRU's method of collating data "renders the station
counts totally meaningless... so, we can have a proper result, but only by
including a load of garbage!"

Prof Jones, who at first refused to confirm even that the emails were
genuine, finally issued a statement on Wednesday, in which he said: "My
colleagues and I accept that some of the published emails do not read well."
On that point, at least, no one is likely to argue with him."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/cop...imategate.html

Most logical people will accept these hacked emails as damning.
But no doubt others, who have been brainwashed by their "facts" will find an
explanation.
It hard to believe, but as the years have gone by more and more lies appear
to have been told.

Suppose out local warming has been cause by earths tilting?
Suppose the sun is in the state of creating a global disaster?
An Ice age or worse burns the whole place up.
Just because it hasnt happened in recent recorded history doesnt mean it
cant happen.
Does that mean we have to tax the hell out of peopel so we can be seen to do
something?
Anything is not better than doing nothing.



"ArSee" wrote in message
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Weather ? Climate? argue any point you like. Whatever you want to confuse
moderate people with.
The problem is, you cant get it right, or if you try to, you twist it.
You think taxing the populace is going to fix it? (Climate Change)




"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"ArSee" wrote in message
...
It appears you have all the answers.
How about understanding, though there is a change of climate, perhaps
the "scientists" who you are backing

You haven't been paying attention. If you had you'd have noted what I
have said here previously about trying to find out info that TELLS me
about the subject.

are perhaps the same scientists who said
the Ozone layer would be fixed. Man made? I don't think so. Weather has
never been controlled by mere scientists.

Hmmmm. Someone else used to confuse the weather with the climate too. I
think you are a sock.

Want to put some money on this?
The only problem is none of us will be around to collect it.
So we can make all sorts of wild unsubstantiated claims.
Well I say no, I will not allow us to promise my children's future on
some wild claim.
Its like paying an insurance company which is not capable of paying out.
There is no collateral is there?
Witch hunting those against this is no use. I am not a skeptic, I'm a
realist.
Rabble-ous behaviour isn't it from you.
Time will tell. I wont go on the word of some Al Gore.
But then again I didn't go to any of his meetings either.
But it appears to me as I have more time than you that you haven't
looked around.



"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...
Of course going back to this site, it wasn't read properly because
you're misquoting it completely, thinking it as rubbish before you
read all.

So it's my fault that I haven't read "all" of this site even though
a) there is only the one tab which relates to climate, and
b) you are the one who referred anyone who reads here to that
particular tab?

If you want to be taken seriously then perhaps you could look for sites
that show less of the fringe element such as the Mayan calendar ending
guff and look more for facts.

The whole word "conspiracy" is used by people hiding conspiracies.
Look at the Gretch and Turnbull affair. Of course that isn't
conspiracy.
Organisations are a complete and organised conspiracy, colluding with
governments.
Why? They have to support each other in order to survive.

Now is that a 'fact' or are you indulging in your own form of
conspiracy theory?

If you're itnnerested, I found this site which seems, as far as I've
managed to read it, seems to have done some work on gathering together
the pro and con arguments:
http://www.climatechangefacts.info/






"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
. au...
"Jonno" wrote in message
...


The Chicken Little Award, a dubious achievement award given by the
National Anxiety Center to people and organizations that they
consider to be engaged in deliberately false, media-driven scare
campaigns regarding environmental matters.

http://www.anxietycenter.com/climate/main.htm

This site is only for those who care about truth.

********. It's a site for people who like to spread conspiracy
theories.