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Squirrel repellent?
Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and
elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa |
Squirrel repellent?
"TheresaKyn" wrote in message ... Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa hmm let me think .. A shotgun :) I did not think we had Squirrels in AUSTRALIA..... |
Squirrel repellent?
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yezzz darling! :) Tazman wrote: "TheresaKyn" wrote in message ... Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa hmm let me think .. A shotgun :) I did not think we had Squirrels in AUSTRALIA..... |
Squirrel repellent?
On 15 Jun 2003 02:18:04 GMT,"TheresaKyn" posted ...
Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. -- Chris Bee |
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TheresaKyn wrote:
Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa Wombats, I have had no problems with squirrels since I got my attack wombats. -- I'm not paranoid, I KNOW the whole world is out to get me. Don't bother replying via email I am a fictitious entity. |
Squirrel repellent?
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:46:57 +1000,"Greenie LeBrun" posted ...
TheresaKyn wrote: Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Wombats, I have had no problems with squirrels since I got my attack wombats. TheresaKyn is trying to protect her Elephants from the Squirrels, so I wouldn't risk Wombats in there despite them being attack Wombats. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
"Greenie LeBrun" wrote in message ... TheresaKyn wrote: Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa Wombats, I have had no problems with squirrels since I got my attack wombats. -- I presume this is because you no longer have any plants for the squirrels to atttack? David |
Squirrel repellent?
"TheresaKyn" wrote in message ... Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa Google the archives of rec.gardens and rec.gardens.edible this topic comes up regularly there. David |
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I used to trap them using the old fashion wire cage trap. Using a unripe fruit as bait. They can spot a fruit miles away. Ling "TheresaKyn" wrote in message ... Does anyone know of a squirrel repellent that I may use on my elephant ears and elsewhere in my garden? The squirrels are chewing the tops off my plants. Thank you. Theresa |
Squirrel repellent?
Actually there is a population of squirrels in Oz; around the suburb of the
Perth Zoo, these were escapees. Perhaps they are now surviving on elephant ears? " Tazman" wrote in message ... hmm let me think .. A shotgun :) I did not think we had Squirrels in AUSTRALIA..... |
Squirrel repellent?
I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps
to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. -- Chris Bee [/b][/quote] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. |
Squirrel repellent?
"mf197421" wrote in message ... I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. -- Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. -- mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk What I find of great concern is how lightly you take the precious native wildlife that a cat eats! Any thoughts to the countless birds, lizards and small furry animals that are eaten every day by cats?? Cats are one of our worst predatory killers. We have made a concerted effort here (an outback Australian property) to rid our countryside of cats & foxes. Within 6 months of commencing this program (10-80 baiting, & shooting), we saw a steadily growing number of nocturnal lizards (broad-banded sand swimmer), marsupial mice(dunnarts) and legless lizards. In addition, there are some species of bird that seem to be in greater numbers, and we had been in our worst drought in 100 years. It has become apparent that feral cats & foxes have been keeping some native animal populations very close to non-existant in this area. Have you ever looked at the contents of a cats stomach; even a domestic one? Probably not; I am betting. You will find an awfull lot of your wildlife dissappears down its gullet. Cats are one of natures most successfull predators, and they dont stop because they are getting fed every day at home! We had 2 cats here a few years ago, and despite 2 meals a day and dry feed on hand 24/7(I kid you not), they would still go and catch birds, lizards, dunnarts, and whatever they could find. Since their respective passings, the wildlife has breathed a collective sigh of relief. I dont have a problem with cats as such, but 99% of cat owners feel that it is their moggy's god-given right to prowl around and catch & kill whatever it finds. And no doubt you think I am just so horrid for being prepared to kill those animals that threaten our native wildlife; simply because they are alive???. Think about their prey! Some of it is far more precious than a cat! From my side, I believe your attitude is something close to environmental vandalism. Your approach means that every animal has the right to exist, regardless of the circumstances as to how it got there. The problem is that many ecosystems would dissappear overnight if you follow this philosophy. I dont believe an animal should suffer cruelty, and the poster you took offence to indicated they take steps to minimise the suffering to the animal. This is (in my opinion) about as thoughtful and conscientious an approach to the problem of cats that you can get. More people should be doing the same. Unfortunately, I dont have anything to offer the squirrel repellant request. However, 10-80 works a treat on cats... Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... Cheers, Rod.......Out Back |
Squirrel repellent?
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:21:32 +0100, mf197421 wrote:
I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk We don't have Squirrels in Australia but then perhaps you haven't realised that this is an Australian newsgroup. We have a problem with introduced species though, such as Foxes and Cats both of which are in plague proportions in some Districts. Our Local Council educates people not to feed stray cats and also encourages residents to trap them so they can be euthantised. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:21:32 +0100, mf197421 wrote:
I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk We don't have Squirrels in Australia but then perhaps you haven't realised that this is an Australian newsgroup. We have a problem with introduced species though, such as Foxes and Cats both of which are in plague proportions in some Districts. Our Local Council educates people not to feed stray cats and also encourages residents to trap them so they can be euthantised. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:35:00 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
"mf197421" wrote in message ... I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. -- mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk What I find of great concern is how lightly you take the precious native wildlife that a cat eats! Any thoughts to the countless birds, lizards and small furry animals that are eaten every day by cats?? Cats are one of our worst predatory killers. We have made a concerted effort here (an outback Australian property) to rid our countryside of cats & foxes. Within 6 months of commencing this program (10-80 baiting, & shooting), we saw a steadily growing number of nocturnal lizards (broad-banded sand swimmer), marsupial mice(dunnarts) and legless lizards. In addition, there are some species of bird that seem to be in greater numbers, and we had been in our worst drought in 100 years. It has become apparent that feral cats & foxes have been keeping some native animal populations very close to non-existant in this area. snipped Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... I snipped a bit of your reply Rod but I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:21:32 +0100, mf197421 wrote:
I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk We don't have Squirrels in Australia but then perhaps you haven't realised that this is an Australian newsgroup. We have a problem with introduced species though, such as Foxes and Cats both of which are in plague proportions in some Districts. Our Local Council educates people not to feed stray cats and also encourages residents to trap them so they can be euthantised. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
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Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... I snipped a bit of your reply Rod but I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. -- Chris Bee Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. |
Squirrel repellent?
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:21:32 +0100, mf197421 wrote:
I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk We don't have Squirrels in Australia but then perhaps you haven't realised that this is an Australian newsgroup. We have a problem with introduced species though, such as Foxes and Cats both of which are in plague proportions in some Districts. Our Local Council educates people not to feed stray cats and also encourages residents to trap them so they can be euthantised. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 15:21:32 +0100, mf197421 wrote:
I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk We don't have Squirrels in Australia but then perhaps you haven't realised that this is an Australian newsgroup. We have a problem with introduced species though, such as Foxes and Cats both of which are in plague proportions in some Districts. Our Local Council educates people not to feed stray cats and also encourages residents to trap them so they can be euthantised. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:35:00 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
"mf197421" wrote in message ... I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. -- mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk What I find of great concern is how lightly you take the precious native wildlife that a cat eats! Any thoughts to the countless birds, lizards and small furry animals that are eaten every day by cats?? Cats are one of our worst predatory killers. We have made a concerted effort here (an outback Australian property) to rid our countryside of cats & foxes. Within 6 months of commencing this program (10-80 baiting, & shooting), we saw a steadily growing number of nocturnal lizards (broad-banded sand swimmer), marsupial mice(dunnarts) and legless lizards. In addition, there are some species of bird that seem to be in greater numbers, and we had been in our worst drought in 100 years. It has become apparent that feral cats & foxes have been keeping some native animal populations very close to non-existant in this area. snipped Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... I snipped a bit of your reply Rod but I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 02:35:00 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
"mf197421" wrote in message ... I haven't been troubled by squirrels as yet but I occasionally set traps to catch stray cats which are then put to sleep by a local authority. Chris Bee [/b] I find this message upsetting. There is nothing illegal in the actions described in it, but, rather, what is upseting is the casual tone in which putting cats to death is presented as a solution to the "bother" they cause. After all, it's living beings, able to feel pain, to attach themselves to people etc., we are talking about. From this standpoint, I was particularly dismayed by the systematic nature of the reader's practice to "occasionally put out traps.." I'd have hoped that all the horrors of last century would have taught us to respect and value all life, or, at the very least, to think seriously about the necessity of killing a living being before taking such a step. -- mf197421 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk What I find of great concern is how lightly you take the precious native wildlife that a cat eats! Any thoughts to the countless birds, lizards and small furry animals that are eaten every day by cats?? Cats are one of our worst predatory killers. We have made a concerted effort here (an outback Australian property) to rid our countryside of cats & foxes. Within 6 months of commencing this program (10-80 baiting, & shooting), we saw a steadily growing number of nocturnal lizards (broad-banded sand swimmer), marsupial mice(dunnarts) and legless lizards. In addition, there are some species of bird that seem to be in greater numbers, and we had been in our worst drought in 100 years. It has become apparent that feral cats & foxes have been keeping some native animal populations very close to non-existant in this area. snipped Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... I snipped a bit of your reply Rod but I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
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Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... I snipped a bit of your reply Rod but I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. -- Chris Bee Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. |
Squirrel repellent?
Lots of stuff snipped
Sorry to all about the rant; this head-in-the-sand approach makes me cranky... I snipped a bit of your reply Rod but I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. -- Chris Bee Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... Cheers, Rod.....Out Back P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:37 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:37 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:37 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 07:24:37 GMT, Rod Out back wrote:
I agree whole heartedly with your comments. We like to see Australian Native Birds here in Melbourne and hate to see them destroyed by Feral Cats. Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... P.S. Have you seen Rainbow Bee-eaters on the wing? We have a flock of 30 or so doing an aerobatics display over the house this afternoon, while catching insects. I cant believe how pretty they are. Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
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Squirrel repellent?
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:08:46 +1100, Trish Brown wrote:
Bumblebee wrote: Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. Is it just me, or are other suburban dwellers noticing more and more native birds coming back??? Especially the parrots? I think so, we *do* have a small variety of Parrots and sometimes a flock of Sulphur Crested Cockatoos will arrive and spend a few hours with us. In our area it wouldn't have happened a few years back, we feel it is due to cleaning up what use to be known as "Newport Tip". My hope is that councils will come to understand the benefits of redressing the 'bad' stuff we've done to our localities and try to gradually put it right. I think the informed decision to limit the influence of cats, dogs and other domestic pet animals on wildlife is a step in the right direction. Newport Quarry, later known as the Newport Tip is within a few kilometres of where I live. Our Council cleaned up the area a bit. Perhaps I may be under stating what they have achieved vbg http://home.vicnet.net.au/~fonl/history/dreamtime.html Mind you, I'm not saying get *rid* of such animals! I'm simply asking that people think hard about the effects they can have and try to keep their companion animals in such a way as to minimise their damage. That sounded really A-bout-face, but y'know what I mean? Councils in our area are trying to educate people regarding their responsibility in owning a dog or cat. They encourage microchip implants so if a dog or cat is found wandering it can be returned to its owner, although with an appropriate fine. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:08:46 +1100, Trish Brown wrote:
Bumblebee wrote: Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. Is it just me, or are other suburban dwellers noticing more and more native birds coming back??? Especially the parrots? I think so, we *do* have a small variety of Parrots and sometimes a flock of Sulphur Crested Cockatoos will arrive and spend a few hours with us. In our area it wouldn't have happened a few years back, we feel it is due to cleaning up what use to be known as "Newport Tip". My hope is that councils will come to understand the benefits of redressing the 'bad' stuff we've done to our localities and try to gradually put it right. I think the informed decision to limit the influence of cats, dogs and other domestic pet animals on wildlife is a step in the right direction. Newport Quarry, later known as the Newport Tip is within a few kilometres of where I live. Our Council cleaned up the area a bit. Perhaps I may be under stating what they have achieved vbg http://home.vicnet.net.au/~fonl/history/dreamtime.html Mind you, I'm not saying get *rid* of such animals! I'm simply asking that people think hard about the effects they can have and try to keep their companion animals in such a way as to minimise their damage. That sounded really A-bout-face, but y'know what I mean? Councils in our area are trying to educate people regarding their responsibility in owning a dog or cat. They encourage microchip implants so if a dog or cat is found wandering it can be returned to its owner, although with an appropriate fine. -- Chris Bee |
Squirrel repellent?
I’m sorry, but it isn’t really believable that a single species could possibly have as monumental an effect on the environment as the one you describe. A friend just came back from a visit to Israel where the majority of cats are actually feral and she didn’t notice any extensive destruction of the wildlife and the landscape (which, mind you, is mostly man-created and therefore quite sensitive).
The justification of *our* right to regularly kill cats on the grounds that *they* are predatory is even less convincing (I guess you consider death by injection or gas of millions of cats a “prettier sight” than a cat catching birds to eat.) Apart from that, there isn’t much in your posting explaining why it’s necessary to systematically kill cats, much less why this does not raise moral or humanitarian questions. All you do is just try to give a sense of why you don’t find cats cute. You don’t need to give any justification for that. As for your question whether we must let them live just because they are alive, the answer is simply yes unless there is a serious reason forcing us to do otherwise. According to our values (at least the Judeo-Christian ones) all life is sacred and one must have good reasons to take it away. (For instance, with the Cane Toad to answer your question, I might have no other option if it threatens me and my family. There is no such danger from stray cats.) Anyways, one must realize that a decision to kill is a serious matter. I didn’t see any such seriousness in the message to which I originally replied. I suspect that the main idea behind your arguments is that you just don’t like cats and that you are afraid of anything not completely under your control in your property and its surroundings. That’s fine but from that to trying systematically to eliminate stray cats is a big step. In any case, you might want to try to find out why your emotions on this issue are so intense. I don’t think the topic warrants such intensity. Quote:
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Squirrel repellent?
I’m sorry, but it isn’t really believable that a single species could possibly have as monumental an effect on the environment as the one you describe. A friend just came back from a visit to Israel where the majority of cats are actually feral and she didn’t notice any extensive destruction of the wildlife and the landscape (which, mind you, is mostly man-created and therefore quite sensitive).
The justification of your right to regularly kill cats on the grounds that they are predatory is even less convincing (I guess you consider death by injection or gas of millions of cats a “prettier sight” than a cat catching birds to eat.) Apart from that, there isn’t much in your posting explaining why it’s necessary to systematically kill cats, much less why this does not raise moral or humanitarian questions. All you do is just try to give a sense of why you don’t find cats cute. You don’t need to give any justification for that. As for your question whether we must let them live just because they are alive, the answer is simply yes unless there is a serious reason forcing us to do otherwise. According to our values (at least the Judeo-Christian ones) all life is sacred and one must have good reasons to take it away. (For instance, with the Cane Toad to answer your question, I might have no other option if it threatens me and my family. There is no such danger from stray cats.) Anyways, one must realize that a decision to kill is a serious matter. I didn’t see any such seriousness in the message to which I originally replied. I suspect that all there is behind your arguments is that you just hate cats and that you are afraid of anything not completely under your control in your property and its surroundings. That’s fine but from that to trying systematically to eliminate stray cats is a big step. In any case, you might want to try to find out why your emotions on this issue are so intense. I don’t think the topic warrants such intensity. Quote:
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Squirrel repellent?
mf197421 wrote:
I?m sorry, but it isn?t really believable that a single species could possibly have as monumental an effect on the environment as the one you describe. A friend just came back from a visit to Israel where the majority of cats are actually feral and she didn?t notice any extensive destruction of the wildlife and the landscape (which, mind you, is mostly man-created and therefore quite sensitive) Okay, I can recommend that you actually make an attempt to educate yourself and not display such gross ignorance of basic ecological matters. Basic ecological lesson; As Australia is an island, cats are not a part of the natural environment in Australia, so the australian wildlife has not adpated to cats. So when cats were introduced, they literally decimated certain species and exterminated others. Now, Israel is located in the pathway between Africa and the rest of the world. so whether cats evolved in Africa and spread to the rest of the world, or whatever, Israel has/had it fair share of cats. Cats have been there fore X hundreds of thousands years. So the wildlife that is left has adapted to/learnt to survive with cats, or they are extinct. Of course, in reality, Israel has bugger all wildlife, especially when compared to Australia. Why do I think cats are to blame: I glad you asked that question. {:-). Because, cats are everywhere in australia, even the deserts. In the 1950's they brought in what they thought was the last wandering aborigines from the country. In the 1980's, they found a bunch that didn't want to be found before. When asked what they had lived on, the answer was "cats". They had a documentary recently on ABC/SBS (?) and the old girls (60+) calmly demonstrated how they ran down cats, then cooked and ate them. there are no foxes in the desert and a great many other places. The foxes gets the bad PR, but the cats are responsible. Go out spot light hunting and you can be overrun with cats every night, but only see a fox once a month. |
Squirrel repellent?
I have a lot of "galahs" and "grass parrots" in my yard that I feed with
peach face mix. I also have eucalypts and other natives... Regards, Mitch. "Trish Brown" wrote in message ... Bumblebee wrote: Unfortunately the majority of birds flying over our homes in suburbia are sparrows, mynas and pigeons. We have quite a few Eucalypts in our suburb however and Magpies pay us a visit for up to a week at a time. During their stay listening to their song is a delight. -- Chris Bee Y'know, the people living in our area seem to have gone *mad* planting native trees! Maybe because of the drought, maybe not. Anyway, I've noticed an amazing increase in the numbers of native birds visiting this pretty dreary suburban area over the past five years or so. From the ho-hum sparrows and pigeons, we've now got about ten different honeyeaters (including Noisy Friarbirds), pardalotes, flycatchers and more recently (yay!) a pair of Little Falcons! We've even had a Channel Billed Cuckoo and a White Tailed Black Cockatoo squawking along overhead! Is it just me, or are other suburban dwellers noticing more and more native birds coming back??? Especially the parrots? My hope is that councils will come to understand the benefits of redressing the 'bad' stuff we've done to our localities and try to gradually put it right. I think the informed decision to limit the influence of cats, dogs and other domestic pet animals on wildlife is a step in the right direction. Mind you, I'm not saying get *rid* of such animals! I'm simply asking that people think hard about the effects they can have and try to keep their companion animals in such a way as to minimise their damage. That sounded really A-bout-face, but y'know what I mean? -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
Squirrel repellent?
"mf197421" wrote in message ... Im sorry, but it isnt really believable that a single species could possibly have as monumental an effect on the environment as the one you describe. No, I'm sorry, but you are wrong on this point. If you would like to get in contact with ANY Parks & Wildlife people here in Australia, they could give you chapter and verse about the destruction cats cause. A friend just came back from a visit to Israel where the majority of cats are actually feral and she didnt notice any extensive destruction of the wildlife and the landscape (which, mind you, is mostly man-created and therefore quite sensitive). The assumption that because feral cats dont have an effect on the environment in Israel (Something I would seriously question) THERFORE they wont have a devastating effect on the Australian fauna is a very flawed assumption to make. Completely different evolutionary paths for each ecology. It's a bit like saying 'My dog is black, therefore all dogs are black'. Not very smart.... There is a large section of land that has been fenced off in Western Australia to safe-keep the last breeding population of one of the small marsupials (One of the Pademelons, or Bettongs??), and the main purpose of that fence is to keep feral cats out. There are Native fauna people who patrol that fenced area daily to ensure cats are not entering the breeding area, and any cat seen in the area is shot on sight. Those people (who work for one of the environmental agencies in Australia) see cats as THAT big a threat to the success of the breeding program. If you want to read one of Douglas Adams's books; 'Last Chance to see', and in particular the section about the Kakapo parrot in New Zealand. These (now-flightless) parrots had no predators for most of their evolution(and so lost their need to fly), and their method of defence in encountering a cat is to lie still on the ground. They simply dont know what to do, and can no longer fly to escape. The only way of keeping this animal off the extinct list was to transport a breeding population to an island, and ruthlessly kill every introduced predator that might come near them. This included cats, rats, and I think one other type of introduced predator. These beautiful parrots are a hairs-breadth away from being gone, and it is only due to the dedication of a team of conservationists involved in this project that the Kakapos are likely to survive. Would you like more examples??? Nearly every country in the world has a similar project, with the same preparedness to kill introduced animals to protect an endangered species. My point in my previous post was that your view about life being sacred doesnt work when you introduce an animal (like the cat) into an environment that has evolved without a similar type of predator. Nearly all of the land-based predators that evolved in Australia (The dingo was introduced some many thousands of years ago, and its impact is still hard to assess) are marsupial, and have quite low birth rates compared to cats. The cat was introduced, and not only can it out-breed any of the native predators, but it is capable of eating quite a few of them as well. The effect is a huge reduction in the native populations of some very exotic marsupials, birds and even some types of frogs. This then starts to cause an effect all the way through the ecosystem. The justification of *our* right to regularly kill cats on the grounds that *they* are predatory is even less convincing (I guess you consider death by injection or gas of millions of cats a prettier sight than a cat catching birds to eat.) Sorry??? I dont recall suggesting we go on a cat-slaughtering rampage and kill every moggy on earth! What I was trying to get across was the killing of the few cats we do catch was a very small sacrifice to keep our precious wildlife we have here in Australia. I havent once suggested that killing a cat was by any stretch of the imagination a 'prettier sight' than anything. I do agree with you that killing ANY living animal shouldnt be an action that is done without thought, but we here live in an environment where the cat is a problem. Simply wishing the problem away wont halt the loss of our native wildlife. A live Rainbow bee-eater perched in a tree IS a much prettier sight than a cat raiding their breeding burrows in an earthern bank. They are one of the many animals that do suffer from predation by cats. Apart from that, there isnt much in your posting explaining why its necessary to systematically kill cats, much less why this does not raise moral or humanitarian questions. All you do is just try to give a sense of why you dont find cats cute. You dont need to give any justification for that. As for your question whether we must let them live just because they are alive, the answer is simply yes unless there is a serious reason forcing us to do otherwise. According to our values (at least the Judeo-Christian ones) all life is sacred and one must have good reasons to take it away. (For instance, with the Cane Toad to answer your question, I might have no other option if it threatens me and my family. There is no such danger from stray cats.) I'm not even going to touch the whole religous values thing; too many thorns there. As far as the Cane Toad is concerned, I am glad you are not in charge of halting the spread of these insidious creatures across mainland Australia. Anyways, one must realize that a decision to kill is a serious matter. I didnt see any such seriousness in the message to which I originally replied. Yes, but my reading of the same posting was the OP was simply being pragmatic about an act that occurs frequently enough for them to be familiar with what to do. I didnt read anything that suggested they were thoughtless, callous or making light of it. If they had suggested they were torturing the animal, or causing it unnecessarry pain or suffering, I would think otherwise. From what I read, they were doing exactly what our Parks & Wildlife service would dearly love most people in Australia to do. I suspect that the main idea behind your arguments is that you just dont like cats and that you are afraid of anything not completely under your control in your property and its surroundings. Thats fine but from that to trying systematically to eliminate stray cats is a big step. I hate to break it to you, but MOST of the animals in my life seem to run their own show, and I'm just comic relief for quite a few of them. As I stated previously, I dont hate cats at all. However, I hate what they do to our environment when loose. As far as the 'big step', simply talk to any expert on Australian fauna, and ask them how much effect do they think feral cats have had. I'd love to be there to hear the reply... In any case, you might want to try to find out why your emotions on this issue are so intense. I dont think the topic warrants such intensity. Ahhh, but you do! You thought the OP was thoughtless and callous when it came to taking the life of a wandering cat. You felt they had demonstrated a disturbing lack of consideration for the animals welfare. Lets face it; your values dont translate over here. You expressed concern about an Australian poster in an Australian news group, and yet you know little about the country you wish to force your beliefs on. I prefer to live in my cat-free environment, where the notorious bum-patting Toiletto Frogoli terrorises people attending the outside loo. Where the Red-Tailed Black Cockatoos spend most of their days citicising our laundry hanging on the line, and where the Rainbow Bee-Eaters cavort overhead in the mornings. Where a visit to the laundry is under the intense gaze of a resting Tawny Frog-Mouth Owl. Where the night-time floodlights are populated by countless Broad-Banded Sand Swimmers, and where a (supposedly diurnal) Shingle-back lizard can chase his tail (he was trying to catch a grasshopper sitting on it) in peace. Where the Willy-Wag-Tail can raise endless broods of chicks, and where heavy rain is punctuated by the yapping of burrowing frogs desparately seeking a single female with view to wild sex and no commitment... If I have to kill a few cats to keep these things, then so be it... Cheers, Rod.....Out back. |
Squirrel repellent?
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"Rod Out back" wrote: Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... Probably. A friend of mine (also in suburban Sydney) noticed rats in her neighbour's back yard, and spoke to him about baiting. He was horrified at the thought of anyone murdering the poor little ratties -- his preferred control method was to catch them in live traps and release them into Georges River National Park! My friend had toddlers. She was not impressed. (The reason for the high rat population was poorly-stored chook food.) -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Jeez; if only those Ancient Greek storytellers had known about the astonishing creature that is the *Usenet hydra*: you cut off one head, and *a stupider one* grows back..." -- MJ, cam.misc |
Squirrel repellent?
"mf197421" wrote in message ... Im sorry, but it isnt really believable that a single species could possibly have as monumental an effect on the environment as the one you describe. No, I'm sorry, but you are wrong on this point. If you would like to get in contact with ANY Parks & Wildlife people here in Australia, they could give you chapter and verse about the destruction cats cause. A friend just came back from a visit to Israel where the majority of cats are actually feral and she didnt notice any extensive destruction of the wildlife and the landscape (which, mind you, is mostly man-created and therefore quite sensitive). The assumption that because feral cats dont have an effect on the environment in Israel (Something I would seriously question) THERFORE they wont have a devastating effect on the Australian fauna is a very flawed assumption to make. Completely different evolutionary paths for each ecology. It's a bit like saying 'My dog is black, therefore all dogs are black'. Not very smart.... There is a large section of land that has been fenced off in Western Australia to safe-keep the last breeding population of one of the small marsupials (One of the Pademelons, or Bettongs??), and the main purpose of that fence is to keep feral cats out. There are Native fauna people who patrol that fenced area daily to ensure cats are not entering the breeding area, and any cat seen in the area is shot on sight. Those people (who work for one of the environmental agencies in Australia) see cats as THAT big a threat to the success of the breeding program. If you want to read one of Douglas Adams's books; 'Last Chance to see', and in particular the section about the Kakapo parrot in New Zealand. These (now-flightless) parrots had no predators for most of their evolution(and so lost their need to fly), and their method of defence in encountering a cat is to lie still on the ground. They simply dont know what to do, and can no longer fly to escape. The only way of keeping this animal off the extinct list was to transport a breeding population to an island, and ruthlessly kill every introduced predator that might come near them. This included cats, rats, and I think one other type of introduced predator. These beautiful parrots are a hairs-breadth away from being gone, and it is only due to the dedication of a team of conservationists involved in this project that the Kakapos are likely to survive. Would you like more examples??? Nearly every country in the world has a similar project, with the same preparedness to kill introduced animals to protect an endangered species. My point in my previous post was that your view about life being sacred doesnt work when you introduce an animal (like the cat) into an environment that has evolved without a similar type of predator. Nearly all of the land-based predators that evolved in Australia (The dingo was introduced some many thousands of years ago, and its impact is still hard to assess) are marsupial, and have quite low birth rates compared to cats. The cat was introduced, and not only can it out-breed any of the native predators, but it is capable of eating quite a few of them as well. The effect is a huge reduction in the native populations of some very exotic marsupials, birds and even some types of frogs. This then starts to cause an effect all the way through the ecosystem. The justification of *our* right to regularly kill cats on the grounds that *they* are predatory is even less convincing (I guess you consider death by injection or gas of millions of cats a prettier sight than a cat catching birds to eat.) Sorry??? I dont recall suggesting we go on a cat-slaughtering rampage and kill every moggy on earth! What I was trying to get across was the killing of the few cats we do catch was a very small sacrifice to keep our precious wildlife we have here in Australia. I havent once suggested that killing a cat was by any stretch of the imagination a 'prettier sight' than anything. I do agree with you that killing ANY living animal shouldnt be an action that is done without thought, but we here live in an environment where the cat is a problem. Simply wishing the problem away wont halt the loss of our native wildlife. A live Rainbow bee-eater perched in a tree IS a much prettier sight than a cat raiding their breeding burrows in an earthern bank. They are one of the many animals that do suffer from predation by cats. Apart from that, there isnt much in your posting explaining why its necessary to systematically kill cats, much less why this does not raise moral or humanitarian questions. All you do is just try to give a sense of why you dont find cats cute. You dont need to give any justification for that. As for your question whether we must let them live just because they are alive, the answer is simply yes unless there is a serious reason forcing us to do otherwise. According to our values (at least the Judeo-Christian ones) all life is sacred and one must have good reasons to take it away. (For instance, with the Cane Toad to answer your question, I might have no other option if it threatens me and my family. There is no such danger from stray cats.) I'm not even going to touch the whole religous values thing; too many thorns there. As far as the Cane Toad is concerned, I am glad you are not in charge of halting the spread of these insidious creatures across mainland Australia. Anyways, one must realize that a decision to kill is a serious matter. I didnt see any such seriousness in the message to which I originally replied. Yes, but my reading of the same posting was the OP was simply being pragmatic about an act that occurs frequently enough for them to be familiar with what to do. I didnt read anything that suggested they were thoughtless, callous or making light of it. If they had suggested they were torturing the animal, or causing it unnecessarry pain or suffering, I would think otherwise. From what I read, they were doing exactly what our Parks & Wildlife service would dearly love most people in Australia to do. I suspect that the main idea behind your arguments is that you just dont like cats and that you are afraid of anything not completely under your control in your property and its surroundings. Thats fine but from that to trying systematically to eliminate stray cats is a big step. I hate to break it to you, but MOST of the animals in my life seem to run their own show, and I'm just comic relief for quite a few of them. As I stated previously, I dont hate cats at all. However, I hate what they do to our environment when loose. As far as the 'big step', simply talk to any expert on Australian fauna, and ask them how much effect do they think feral cats have had. I'd love to be there to hear the reply... In any case, you might want to try to find out why your emotions on this issue are so intense. I dont think the topic warrants such intensity. Ahhh, but you do! You thought the OP was thoughtless and callous when it came to taking the life of a wandering cat. You felt they had demonstrated a disturbing lack of consideration for the animals welfare. Lets face it; your values dont translate over here. You expressed concern about an Australian poster in an Australian news group, and yet you know little about the country you wish to force your beliefs on. I prefer to live in my cat-free environment, where the notorious bum-patting Toiletto Frogoli terrorises people attending the outside loo. Where the Red-Tailed Black Cockatoos spend most of their days citicising our laundry hanging on the line, and where the Rainbow Bee-Eaters cavort overhead in the mornings. Where a visit to the laundry is under the intense gaze of a resting Tawny Frog-Mouth Owl. Where the night-time floodlights are populated by countless Broad-Banded Sand Swimmers, and where a (supposedly diurnal) Shingle-back lizard can chase his tail (he was trying to catch a grasshopper sitting on it) in peace. Where the Willy-Wag-Tail can raise endless broods of chicks, and where heavy rain is punctuated by the yapping of burrowing frogs desparately seeking a single female with view to wild sex and no commitment... If I have to kill a few cats to keep these things, then so be it... Cheers, Rod.....Out back. |
Squirrel repellent?
In article ,
"Rod Out back" wrote: Thanks Chris, and also thankyou for pointing out it is an AUS group. I forgot to mention this in my verbal outpouring. I'd like to think Australians are a bit more pragmatic about feral animal control. I wonder if this person will love and cherish every Cane Toad they encounter... Probably. A friend of mine (also in suburban Sydney) noticed rats in her neighbour's back yard, and spoke to him about baiting. He was horrified at the thought of anyone murdering the poor little ratties -- his preferred control method was to catch them in live traps and release them into Georges River National Park! My friend had toddlers. She was not impressed. (The reason for the high rat population was poorly-stored chook food.) -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Jeez; if only those Ancient Greek storytellers had known about the astonishing creature that is the *Usenet hydra*: you cut off one head, and *a stupider one* grows back..." -- MJ, cam.misc |
Squirrel repellent?
Terry Collins wrote:
snip The foxes gets the bad PR, but the cats are responsible. Go out spot light hunting and you can be overrun with cats every night, but only see a fox once a month. I *have* to tell this story! Years ago, my sister and I had a very skinny horse. In an attempt to help him put weight on, we would give him a hot mash (with molasses) each morning. Nothing happened! He stayed skinny (but ate - well - like a horse!) One morning, after delivering the hot mash, we went back to retrieve a forgotten bucket. Imagine our surprise when a big (fat) dog-fox jumped *out of the trough*, in which he had been sharing with the horse! We began to watch this fox and even got a reasonable photo of him. He would wait until we had plonked the mash in the horse's trough and then, quick-as-a-wink, hop in alongside the munching horse's head. He would eat for five minutes or so and then hop out again. With a whisk of his tail, he'd be gone off up the creek to parts unkown! The *really* strange thing is that this horse was *notoriously* 'thingy' about his tucker! If you hung around too long after putting his feed in the trough, his ears would go back and he'd snake his neck out and bite you on the nearest hunk of yourself he could reach. For some inexplicable reason, he took utterly no notice of Mr Fox hopping in his trough and scoffing off half his breakfast! In the end, a hefty dose of worming paste and an evening mash got the weight on the horse and he did much better. We lost track of Mr Fox, but whenever I see a fox pup on the Minmi Road, I wonder if it's one of his descendants! -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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