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[IBC] Juniper Bonsai life expectancy?
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From: "Colin Lewis" During the last year I have spent a lot of my time trying to get people to understand that you need to let the plant you are dealing with "speak" to you. You need to allow things like gut reaction, emotion, visual pleasure etc. influence design decisions. You need to look at the state of the vegetation to know when it is time to hibernate a plant. You need to forget about "left branch, right branch. back branch" when dealing with collected trees that don't have them. ------------- I appreciate your efforts on that front, Colin. Hats off to your students. Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jerry Meislik++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Juniper Bonsai life expectancy?
Basics, tools, methods. They all work. Some people just take offense to
rules I guess. I would have paid $1000 for someone to clobber me in the head with a baseball bat so I could have paid more attention to the 'rules' back when I first started. --I crucified my hate and held the world within my hands-- Neal Ross-Marysville CA ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jerry Meislik++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Juniper Bonsai life expectancy?
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From: "Colin Lewis" That's true almost everywhere, Andy. The point I was trying to make is that here an inordinate umber of people WANT things formularised. They want to know the axact date to put trees away for winter or bring them out in spring; they want to knoe the precise proportions for soil to first branch to apex; they want to know how to pronounce bonsai... -------------- I'd venture that this is because we Americans feel the illogical need to understand what we're being taught - from an intellectual point of view. We have to feel good about what we're digesting and "know" that it's worthwhile (forget the fact that, since we lack the fundamental understanding in the first place, that all of this is impossible). If we don't understand the process, we fear and dislike it. If the teacher demands that we forget all of that junk and just absorb the instruction and put it into practice without question, we think that we're being duped or that we're being "disrespected." None of this has anything to do with learning, of course. But we like to delude ourselves that it does. See, "we" know what's right and the teacher does not. It's quite simple. ;-) Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jerry Meislik++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Juniper Bonsai life expectancy?
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From: "Neal Ross" Basics, tools, methods. They all work. Some people just take offense to rules I guess. I would have paid $1000 for someone to clobber me in the head with a baseball bat so I could have paid more attention to the 'rules' back when I first started. Neal Ross- ------------ An admirable regret. Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jerry Meislik++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Juniper Bonsai life expectancy?
Think maybe this is due in part to the fact that our educational system here
in the U.S. has, for the most part, devolved to the point where education is about regurgitation of "facts" as opposed to the application of "principles?" Jeff Isom Cleveland, OH / Sunset Zone 39 I'd venture that this is because we Americans feel the illogical need to understand what we're being taught - from an intellectual point of view. We have to feel good about what we're digesting and "know" that it's worthwhile (forget the fact that, since we lack the fundamental understanding in the first place, that all of this is impossible). If we don't understand the process, we fear and dislike it. If the teacher demands that we forget all of that junk and just absorb the instruction and put it into practice without question, we think that we're being duped or that we're being "disrespected." None of this has anything to do with learning, of course. But we like to delude ourselves that it does. See, "we" know what's right and the teacher does not. It's quite simple. ;-) Kind regards, Andy Rutledge zone 8, Texas ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Jerry Meislik++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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[IBC] Juniper Bonsai life expectancy?
wow, yes i'm a newbie. i bought
the juniper while walking thru chinatown for the new years parade last week. anyhow, i'm hooked! yesterday i bought a cotoneaster and a palm from a north los angeles wholeseller online which should arrive tomorrow and i now want a chinese elm. i've been reading a lot of info on the net and i must say the info you just wrote was great!! thanks for the time you put into your response!! |
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