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02-03-2004, 11:57 AM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer
soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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02-03-2004, 12:10 PM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer
soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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02-03-2004, 12:22 PM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer
soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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02-03-2004, 12:45 PM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer
soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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02-03-2004, 12:59 PM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer
soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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02-03-2004, 02:44 PM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
David Easterbrook has advocated for a layer of finer soil on the top, to
support better moss growth, I think. Rodger Kessler -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf Of kevin bailey Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:27 AM To: Subject: [IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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02-03-2004, 02:59 PM
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[IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer
David Easterbrook has advocated for a layer of finer soil on the top, to
support better moss growth, I think. Rodger Kessler -----Original Message----- From: Internet Bonsai Club ]On Behalf Of kevin bailey Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:27 AM To: Subject: [IBC] soil rumor + Drainage Layer Definitely incorrect in my experience. I have found that using finer soil sizes actually encourages lush growth with longer internodes and larger leaves. That's as long as the tree likes these conditions. As has been noted, many trees dislike the wetter conditions that fine soils encourage. I routinely use fine milled peat and sharp sand for potting up cuttings and first year seedlings. They grow well but are observed regularly and individually for their water requirements. As the trees get larger and older they are repotted and this is replaced with coarser soils. Just to throw a spanner in the works, and take this regular topic a stage further;-) How many of you were astonished to read a 4page article on the importance of the drainage layer in Bonsai Today 88? I thought this one was well and truly refuted. Cheers Kev Bailey Vale Of Clwyd, North Wales I have heard that the use of a finer sized soil will produce a finer twigging of branches and smaller leafing. While a soil that is more coarse will not really affect the leafing or branching but will encourage a more fibrous root system. Does anyone know which, if either, is true? Keith Eastern NC --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.598 / Virus Database: 380 - Release Date: 28/02/2004 ************************************************** ************************** **** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ************************** **** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Ken Rutledge++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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