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Old 18-03-2004, 06:52 AM
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Folks:

Finally spring is here in Oklahoma not only on the calendar, but in the
actual weather conditions. Today is sunny and 72 degrees. This is an ideal
time for phoenix grafts or tanuki. Well, a lot of the old-timers told me
they use any available nail or screw to fasten the live material, usually a
variety of juniper, to the dried dead wood. I have seen them use steel and
coated iron nails. In the past I have only used wire and plastic cable ties
myself. I would like to use nails or brads on my next projects.
Colin Lewis in his book states that only copper nails or screws should be
used with junipers. I also recall someone else saying the same thing;
perhaps Brussell Martin.

I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

Cheers.

Peter Aradi
Tulsa, Oklahoma

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Old 18-03-2004, 07:27 AM
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I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have
difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it
worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

==========

I've taken to using "Gorilla Glue" for everything from gluing a
broken-half-off branch back together to merging two trees'
trunks, and tanuki.

Marvelous stuff. You gotta tie things together overnight.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 18-03-2004, 08:40 AM
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I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have
difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it
worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

==========

I've taken to using "Gorilla Glue" for everything from gluing a
broken-half-off branch back together to merging two trees'
trunks, and tanuki.

Marvelous stuff. You gotta tie things together overnight.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 18-03-2004, 08:40 AM
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I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have
difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it
worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

==========

I've taken to using "Gorilla Glue" for everything from gluing a
broken-half-off branch back together to merging two trees'
trunks, and tanuki.

Marvelous stuff. You gotta tie things together overnight.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 18-03-2004, 08:47 AM
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I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have
difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it
worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

==========

I've taken to using "Gorilla Glue" for everything from gluing a
broken-half-off branch back together to merging two trees'
trunks, and tanuki.

Marvelous stuff. You gotta tie things together overnight.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 18-03-2004, 08:47 AM
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I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have
difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it
worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

==========

I've taken to using "Gorilla Glue" for everything from gluing a
broken-half-off branch back together to merging two trees'
trunks, and tanuki.

Marvelous stuff. You gotta tie things together overnight.

Jim Lewis - - Tallahassee, FL - Only where
people have learned to appreciate and cherish the landscape and
its living cover will they treat it with the care and respect it
should have - Paul Bigelow Sears.

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Old 18-03-2004, 08:47 AM
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In a message dated 3/17/2004 4:21:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
writes:
am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it worked out?
Peter:

Plastic straps are ideal when you can find a way to suitably position them
around the deadwood (trunk). In areas where you cannot apply them, use a
suitable screw. I have never used copper screws. The two tanuki's that I worked on
10 years ago are thriving (in the absence of copper) and with screws used to
secure plasterboard to studs.

You will need to be certain to protect the bottom of the trunk from wicking
water. This is done by applying either a coat of West Systems Marine Epoxy,
Cuprinol, or someone that forms a strong, waterl-resistant shield. If you do
not protect the exposed bottom of the deadwood trunk, the trunk will most
definitely rot over time.

Cordially,

Michael Persiano
http://members.aol.com/iasnob

Cordially,

Michael Persiano

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Old 18-03-2004, 08:47 AM
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Peter:
Have you tried to obtain brass nails or screws? They work quite well.

Carl L. Rosner

Peter wrote:

Folks:

Finally spring is here in Oklahoma not only on the calendar, but in the
actual weather conditions. Today is sunny and 72 degrees. This is an ideal
time for phoenix grafts or tanuki. Well, a lot of the old-timers told me
they use any available nail or screw to fasten the live material, usually a
variety of juniper, to the dried dead wood. I have seen them use steel and
coated iron nails. In the past I have only used wire and plastic cable ties
myself. I would like to use nails or brads on my next projects.
Colin Lewis in his book states that only copper nails or screws should be
used with junipers. I also recall someone else saying the same thing;
perhaps Brussell Martin.

I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

Cheers.

Peter Aradi
Tulsa, Oklahoma






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Peter:
Have you tried to obtain brass nails or screws? They work quite well.

Carl L. Rosner

Peter wrote:

Folks:

Finally spring is here in Oklahoma not only on the calendar, but in the
actual weather conditions. Today is sunny and 72 degrees. This is an ideal
time for phoenix grafts or tanuki. Well, a lot of the old-timers told me
they use any available nail or screw to fasten the live material, usually a
variety of juniper, to the dried dead wood. I have seen them use steel and
coated iron nails. In the past I have only used wire and plastic cable ties
myself. I would like to use nails or brads on my next projects.
Colin Lewis in his book states that only copper nails or screws should be
used with junipers. I also recall someone else saying the same thing;
perhaps Brussell Martin.

I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

Cheers.

Peter Aradi
Tulsa, Oklahoma






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Old 18-03-2004, 08:52 AM
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Peter:
Have you tried to obtain brass nails or screws? They work quite well.

Carl L. Rosner

Peter wrote:

Folks:

Finally spring is here in Oklahoma not only on the calendar, but in the
actual weather conditions. Today is sunny and 72 degrees. This is an ideal
time for phoenix grafts or tanuki. Well, a lot of the old-timers told me
they use any available nail or screw to fasten the live material, usually a
variety of juniper, to the dried dead wood. I have seen them use steel and
coated iron nails. In the past I have only used wire and plastic cable ties
myself. I would like to use nails or brads on my next projects.
Colin Lewis in his book states that only copper nails or screws should be
used with junipers. I also recall someone else saying the same thing;
perhaps Brussell Martin.

I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

Cheers.

Peter Aradi
Tulsa, Oklahoma






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Old 18-03-2004, 09:32 AM
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Peter:
Have you tried to obtain brass nails or screws? They work quite well.

Carl L. Rosner

Peter wrote:

Folks:

Finally spring is here in Oklahoma not only on the calendar, but in the
actual weather conditions. Today is sunny and 72 degrees. This is an ideal
time for phoenix grafts or tanuki. Well, a lot of the old-timers told me
they use any available nail or screw to fasten the live material, usually a
variety of juniper, to the dried dead wood. I have seen them use steel and
coated iron nails. In the past I have only used wire and plastic cable ties
myself. I would like to use nails or brads on my next projects.
Colin Lewis in his book states that only copper nails or screws should be
used with junipers. I also recall someone else saying the same thing;
perhaps Brussell Martin.

I am interested in the experiences of you folks as I have difficulty buying
copper nails or brads around here. What have you used and how it worked out?

Thank you in advance for sharing your experiences.

Cheers.

Peter Aradi
Tulsa, Oklahoma






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