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[IBC] IBC Site: Forum/Galleries
Nic...thanks for what you are doing...
Y'all are welcome Speaking for my self...and very likely for others...since some us, probably most, are not PC/Internet gurus, I think we should try to keep our Forum/Galleries as close to KISS systems as we can. Agreed. The changes I'm talking about are not about complicating your life (and they shouldn't), but about easing my life. One part of this is the use of multiple passwords. If we require the use of two passwords, then it will soon be three, then four...I know, I know, passwords protect us and our data, but I HATE PASSWORDS! Which is why I am suggesting an integrated forum so you can use your username and password throughout the entire site, including forums. Are we going to attract more new members with a highly sophisticated system? I think here that my intentions were misunderstood. I'm not thinking a highly sophisticated system. I'm talking about putting in a Content Management System that is easy to use and powerful. For the average user visiting the site, there is likely not going to be any difference, except perhaps improved performance (faster loading for instance). At this point, with the amount of information we have on the site, using a content management system is the only option. In general, a more sophisticated system is more difficult to learn and/or maintain. Not necessarily so. In this case, the "system", named Mambo, is a very easy to use CMS. I know a 12 year old who's created sites with it, no worries But that's beside the point. From a user point of view, there is no real learning to do. Just use the site as you would any other site. Unless you want to submit content. When that is the case, you end up with a friendly user interface to allow you to do that. Another part of learning would be how the integrated forum function. That is, keeping the same/similar functionality as the current forum, just that functions are organised a little differently. I'm not talking about adding lots of bells and whistles. I hope this provides a little more information and reassurances as to what I'm hoping to accomplish. Nic ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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I thought Pat's article might be a good addition to the
"Knowledge Base." jim ============================================ TO THE BIGINNERS OUT THE We hope that the following information will help you to get off to a good start, and that your interest in bonsai becomes a life long pursuit. There are three things (plus NEXT, below) that a beginner should do, right at the beginning: 1. Read...read...read...then read some more. 2. Join a local club. 3. Take a beginners class. READ...READ...READ...go to your local library and read every book on bonsai that you can put your hands on. In the US, the book most often recommended for beginners is BONSAI, published by Sunset...an excellent first book for beginners. Be sure to get the 2003 edition. Among my favorite authors a Herb Gustafson, Dorothy Korschoff, Colin Lewis and John Naka...and, many, many more. The more you read, the better prepared you will be to ask questions here (on the IBC), or at your local club...in Step 2. JOIN A LOCAL CLUB...here is where you can get the best advice available, since the local club members are the ones who are raising bonsai in YOUR geographical area. The local club can help you avoid the pitfalls that you may encounter when you get advice from, maybe, half way around the world. Many things in bonsai are pretty much universal, but you need to know what it takes to keep a bonsai healthy in your location...be it Tucson, San Francisco, Sidney, or Toronto. There are many more benefits to being a member of a local club. TAKE A BEGINNERS CLASS...this is where you begin learning the basics, like selecting a nursery plant, which plant to start with, identifying the front, branch trimming, wiring, and on and on. You will begin to learn what works best for your area, what tools you need, and how to use them, etc. A good beginners class will get you off to a good start. NEXT…the Internet Bonsai Club (IBC) has a lot to offer. Check out the IBC HOME PAGE at http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ where you will find such things as FAQs, ASK THE DOCTOR (where you can describe the symptoms of an ailing plant and get suggestions from Dr. Nina as to how to fix them), The BONSAI KNOWLEDGE BASE, and more…much more. Now, having taken these three steps, welcome to the wonderful obsession, I mean world, of bonsai! Enjoy. Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Jim: If you do that, I recommend one small correction. I suspect
he meant the more widely published Deborah Koreshoff (also note spelling), rather than her mother, Dorothy. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lewis I thought Pat's article might be a good addition to the "Knowledge Base." jim ============================================ TO THE BIGINNERS OUT THE We hope that the following information will help you to get off to a good start, and that your interest in bonsai becomes a life long pursuit. There are three things (plus NEXT, below) that a beginner should do, right at the beginning: 1. Read...read...read...then read some more. 2. Join a local club. 3. Take a beginners class. READ...READ...READ...go to your local library and read every book on bonsai that you can put your hands on. In the US, the book most often recommended for beginners is BONSAI, published by Sunset...an excellent first book for beginners. Be sure to get the 2003 edition. Among my favorite authors a Herb Gustafson, Dorothy Korschoff, Colin Lewis and John Naka...and, many, many more. The more you read, the better prepared you will be to ask questions here (on the IBC), or at your local club...in Step 2. JOIN A LOCAL CLUB...here is where you can get the best advice available, since the local club members are the ones who are raising bonsai in YOUR geographical area. The local club can help you avoid the pitfalls that you may encounter when you get advice from, maybe, half way around the world. Many things in bonsai are pretty much universal, but you need to know what it takes to keep a bonsai healthy in your location...be it Tucson, San Francisco, Sidney, or Toronto. There are many more benefits to being a member of a local club. TAKE A BEGINNERS CLASS...this is where you begin learning the basics, like selecting a nursery plant, which plant to start with, identifying the front, branch trimming, wiring, and on and on. You will begin to learn what works best for your area, what tools you need, and how to use them, etc. A good beginners class will get you off to a good start. NEXT the Internet Bonsai Club (IBC) has a lot to offer. Check out the IBC HOME PAGE at http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ where you will find such things as FAQs, ASK THE DOCTOR (where you can describe the symptoms of an ailing plant and get suggestions from Dr. Nina as to how to fix them), The BONSAI KNOWLEDGE BASE, and more, much more. Now, having taken these three steps, welcome to the wonderful obsession, I mean world, of bonsai! Enjoy. Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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G'day all...
Thank you Jim and Alan... And Yes, I did mean Deborah Korschoff. Just having a senior moment, I suppose. Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' |
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Sorry....
KORESHOFF!!! Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' |
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G'day all...
Thank you Jim and Alan... And Yes, I did mean Deborah Korschoff. Just having a senior moment, I suppose. Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' |
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Jim: If you do that, I recommend one small correction. I suspect
he meant the more widely published Deborah Koreshoff (also note spelling), rather than her mother, Dorothy. Alan Walker http://bonsai-bci.com http://LCBSBonsai.org -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lewis I thought Pat's article might be a good addition to the "Knowledge Base." jim ============================================ TO THE BIGINNERS OUT THE We hope that the following information will help you to get off to a good start, and that your interest in bonsai becomes a life long pursuit. There are three things (plus NEXT, below) that a beginner should do, right at the beginning: 1. Read...read...read...then read some more. 2. Join a local club. 3. Take a beginners class. READ...READ...READ...go to your local library and read every book on bonsai that you can put your hands on. In the US, the book most often recommended for beginners is BONSAI, published by Sunset...an excellent first book for beginners. Be sure to get the 2003 edition. Among my favorite authors a Herb Gustafson, Dorothy Korschoff, Colin Lewis and John Naka...and, many, many more. The more you read, the better prepared you will be to ask questions here (on the IBC), or at your local club...in Step 2. JOIN A LOCAL CLUB...here is where you can get the best advice available, since the local club members are the ones who are raising bonsai in YOUR geographical area. The local club can help you avoid the pitfalls that you may encounter when you get advice from, maybe, half way around the world. Many things in bonsai are pretty much universal, but you need to know what it takes to keep a bonsai healthy in your location...be it Tucson, San Francisco, Sidney, or Toronto. There are many more benefits to being a member of a local club. TAKE A BEGINNERS CLASS...this is where you begin learning the basics, like selecting a nursery plant, which plant to start with, identifying the front, branch trimming, wiring, and on and on. You will begin to learn what works best for your area, what tools you need, and how to use them, etc. A good beginners class will get you off to a good start. NEXT the Internet Bonsai Club (IBC) has a lot to offer. Check out the IBC HOME PAGE at http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ where you will find such things as FAQs, ASK THE DOCTOR (where you can describe the symptoms of an ailing plant and get suggestions from Dr. Nina as to how to fix them), The BONSAI KNOWLEDGE BASE, and more, much more. Now, having taken these three steps, welcome to the wonderful obsession, I mean world, of bonsai! Enjoy. Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Thanks again Nic...
Go for it!!! Pat Dez of the Arizona High Dezert, at 4550', Oracle, AZ, 2000' above Tucson Sunset Zone 10 USDA Zone 8 aka: Pat Patterson 'riding off in all directions' |
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Nic...thanks for what you are doing...
Y'all are welcome Speaking for my self...and very likely for others...since some us, probably most, are not PC/Internet gurus, I think we should try to keep our Forum/Galleries as close to KISS systems as we can. Agreed. The changes I'm talking about are not about complicating your life (and they shouldn't), but about easing my life. One part of this is the use of multiple passwords. If we require the use of two passwords, then it will soon be three, then four...I know, I know, passwords protect us and our data, but I HATE PASSWORDS! Which is why I am suggesting an integrated forum so you can use your username and password throughout the entire site, including forums. Are we going to attract more new members with a highly sophisticated system? I think here that my intentions were misunderstood. I'm not thinking a highly sophisticated system. I'm talking about putting in a Content Management System that is easy to use and powerful. For the average user visiting the site, there is likely not going to be any difference, except perhaps improved performance (faster loading for instance). At this point, with the amount of information we have on the site, using a content management system is the only option. In general, a more sophisticated system is more difficult to learn and/or maintain. Not necessarily so. In this case, the "system", named Mambo, is a very easy to use CMS. I know a 12 year old who's created sites with it, no worries But that's beside the point. From a user point of view, there is no real learning to do. Just use the site as you would any other site. Unless you want to submit content. When that is the case, you end up with a friendly user interface to allow you to do that. Another part of learning would be how the integrated forum function. That is, keeping the same/similar functionality as the current forum, just that functions are organised a little differently. I'm not talking about adding lots of bells and whistles. I hope this provides a little more information and reassurances as to what I'm hoping to accomplish. Nic ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Has any one got experience of germinating Boabab seeds, i got it from south
africa, when Charles Ceronio visited us. ovais Pakistan Bonsai So. ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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Nic...thanks for what you are doing...
Y'all are welcome Speaking for my self...and very likely for others...since some us, probably most, are not PC/Internet gurus, I think we should try to keep our Forum/Galleries as close to KISS systems as we can. Agreed. The changes I'm talking about are not about complicating your life (and they shouldn't), but about easing my life. One part of this is the use of multiple passwords. If we require the use of two passwords, then it will soon be three, then four...I know, I know, passwords protect us and our data, but I HATE PASSWORDS! Which is why I am suggesting an integrated forum so you can use your username and password throughout the entire site, including forums. Are we going to attract more new members with a highly sophisticated system? I think here that my intentions were misunderstood. I'm not thinking a highly sophisticated system. I'm talking about putting in a Content Management System that is easy to use and powerful. For the average user visiting the site, there is likely not going to be any difference, except perhaps improved performance (faster loading for instance). At this point, with the amount of information we have on the site, using a content management system is the only option. In general, a more sophisticated system is more difficult to learn and/or maintain. Not necessarily so. In this case, the "system", named Mambo, is a very easy to use CMS. I know a 12 year old who's created sites with it, no worries But that's beside the point. From a user point of view, there is no real learning to do. Just use the site as you would any other site. Unless you want to submit content. When that is the case, you end up with a friendly user interface to allow you to do that. Another part of learning would be how the integrated forum function. That is, keeping the same/similar functionality as the current forum, just that functions are organised a little differently. I'm not talking about adding lots of bells and whistles. I hope this provides a little more information and reassurances as to what I'm hoping to accomplish. Nic ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Evergreen Gardenworks++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
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