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Richard Patefield wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote: Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date Virus definitions and suchlike are always 'out of date'. Computer security companies don't issue updates until after they have discovered a vulnerability. How could they? Richard thanks to come to my rescue :-D tonite I ate this I made it myself , it was excellent http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/s...to&PhotoID=935 MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Massimo.... thanks for developing a nifty and practical application!
With a couple of tweeks MyBonsai could be a really great and useful application :) I've used it for a few days now and think it is pretty cool. Happy to register for free......yes all it takes is a little email message and it's free (scary to some people I know) But overall a great idea!! Only problem is it seems even after I install the English language dat file, some parts of MyBonsai are still in Italian. For example: the STYLE and PROPAGATION dropdown menus are in Italian and Japanese wording. Any possibilty of a fix in the future? (and yes I know the Japanese wording is essential) Anyway looking forward to version 1.2 ! FOR THE MISTRUSTING......... Regarding certain people's intial reaction to the original posting ::: Seems some people are too busy being paranoid and 'net authorative' and have forgotten basic manners and courtesy. I'm appalled by this group's reaction to someone trying to do something positive for online bonsai enthusiasts. I can see the headlines now: - 'Online Bonsai Enthusiasts targeted by the international hacker elite for being 'mean' to plants by way of rootpruning ...now for the weather" - Gees, we're just sitting ducks aren't we? Get a grip. FOR THE LAZY... I personally think it's *great* that someone offers sound net security advice ( I do it at work all the time), but it should be done in such a way that doesn't UNFAIRLY undermine someones work. And yes, if you're too lazy and ignorant to update your viruscanner definitions and don't run even a basic up-to-date firewall in this day and age - then suffer the consequences, don't hijack someone's efforts to do something constructive and useful with your neurosis and paranoia...... FOR THE NEUROTIC (or just plain bored like me)...... Scanned by Norton Antivirus (definitions 11/11/04) - No Virus Threat Detected Zonealarm and Sygate reports- No trojan like activity, no asking to 'phone home', no opening of ports, no browser hi-jacking, no adware, nor any attempted outgoing TCP or UDP connections....are we dead yet? Lovely, I'm sold ! Joe "Theo" wrote in message ... Richard Patefield wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote: Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date Virus definitions and suchlike are always 'out of date'. Computer security companies don't issue updates until after they have discovered a vulnerability. How could they? Richard thanks to come to my rescue :-D tonite I ate this I made it myself , it was excellent http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/s...=ShowPhoto&Pho toID=935 MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Hi Joe
Joe The Know? wrote: FOR THE LAZY... I personally think it's *great* that someone offers sound net security advice ( I do it at work all the time), but it should be done in such a way that doesn't UNFAIRLY undermine someones work. And yes, if you're too lazy and ignorant to update your viruscanner definitions and don't run even a basic up-to-date firewall in this day and age - then suffer the consequences, don't hijack someone's efforts to do something constructive and useful with your neurosis and paranoia...... Heroes go to war and gets the medals post mortem the others will cash benefits after the war is over this was not the point nobody is paranoiac, I receive per day 50 mails and at least 10 are rejected as infected , and some are blocked inside by Norton some viruses are new nobody knows altruist Massimo that comes out from nowhere and offers you to register an .exe file... for your bonsai's.... The intention is excellent but sounds fishy I am a very active person in the Italian & french Bonsai site and I never sow Massimo there , as being also in Italian the program , would be supposed to offered there first ... well nobody is prophet in his homeland I know ... scalded cats scare cold water , is said and nowadays we always have to be careful and is not bein paranoic but just to to be careful means to have common sense ... just my two cents FOR THE NEUROTIC (or just plain bored like me)...... Scanned by Norton Antivirus (definitions 11/11/04) - No Virus Threat Detected Zonealarm and Sygate reports- No trojan like activity, no asking to 'phone home', no opening of ports, no browser hi-jacking, no adware, nor any attempted outgoing TCP or UDP connections....are we dead yet? Lovely, I'm sold ! Joe "Theo" wrote in message ... Richard Patefield wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote: Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date Virus definitions and suchlike are always 'out of date'. Computer security companies don't issue updates until after they have discovered a vulnerability. How could they? Richard thanks to come to my rescue :-D tonite I ate this I made it myself , it was excellent http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/s...=ShowPhoto&Pho toID=935 MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Hi Joe
Joe The Know? wrote: FOR THE LAZY... I personally think it's *great* that someone offers sound net security advice ( I do it at work all the time), but it should be done in such a way that doesn't UNFAIRLY undermine someones work. And yes, if you're too lazy and ignorant to update your viruscanner definitions and don't run even a basic up-to-date firewall in this day and age - then suffer the consequences, don't hijack someone's efforts to do something constructive and useful with your neurosis and paranoia...... Heroes go to war and gets the medals post mortem the others will cash benefits after the war is over this was not the point nobody is paranoiac, I receive per day 50 mails and at least 10 are rejected as infected , and some are blocked inside by Norton some viruses are new nobody knows altruist Massimo that comes out from nowhere and offers you to register an .exe file... for your bonsai's.... The intention is excellent but sounds fishy I am a very active person in the Italian & french Bonsai site and I never sow Massimo there , as being also in Italian the program , would be supposed to offered there first ... well nobody is prophet in his homeland I know ... scalded cats scare cold water , is said and nowadays we always have to be careful and is not bein paranoic but just to to be careful means to have common sense ... just my two cents FOR THE NEUROTIC (or just plain bored like me)...... Scanned by Norton Antivirus (definitions 11/11/04) - No Virus Threat Detected Zonealarm and Sygate reports- No trojan like activity, no asking to 'phone home', no opening of ports, no browser hi-jacking, no adware, nor any attempted outgoing TCP or UDP connections....are we dead yet? Lovely, I'm sold ! Joe "Theo" wrote in message ... Richard Patefield wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote: Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date Virus definitions and suchlike are always 'out of date'. Computer security companies don't issue updates until after they have discovered a vulnerability. How could they? Richard thanks to come to my rescue :-D tonite I ate this I made it myself , it was excellent http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/s...=ShowPhoto&Pho toID=935 MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
Joe The Know? wrote,
(snipped) If you had used an email address and a human name, or had ever posted anything to the list that I had noticed, I might take your comments a bit more seriously. As it is you headed for the killfile. Feel free to comment in anyway you like, but don't dictate to others how they may respond Your knowledge of good manners might have told you that.. Richard ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Joe The Know? wrote,
(snipped) If you had used an email address and a human name, or had ever posted anything to the list that I had noticed, I might take your comments a bit more seriously. As it is you headed for the killfile. Feel free to comment in anyway you like, but don't dictate to others how they may respond Your knowledge of good manners might have told you that.. Richard ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Joe The Know? wrote,
(snipped) If you had used an email address and a human name, or had ever posted anything to the list that I had noticed, I might take your comments a bit more seriously. As it is you headed for the killfile. Feel free to comment in anyway you like, but don't dictate to others how they may respond Your knowledge of good manners might have told you that.. Richard ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
This thread reminds me of the last time I was in a chicken coop: lots of
clucking and a foul odor. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theo" To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: [IBC] try MyBonsai v1.1 - it is freeware Hi Joe Joe The Know? wrote: FOR THE LAZY... I personally think it's *great* that someone offers sound net security advice ( I do it at work all the time), but it should be done in such a way that doesn't UNFAIRLY undermine someones work. And yes, if you're too lazy and ignorant to update your viruscanner definitions and don't run even a basic up-to-date firewall in this day and age - then suffer the consequences, don't hijack someone's efforts to do something constructive and useful with your neurosis and paranoia...... Heroes go to war and gets the medals post mortem the others will cash benefits after the war is over this was not the point nobody is paranoiac, I receive per day 50 mails and at least 10 are rejected as infected , and some are blocked inside by Norton some viruses are new nobody knows altruist Massimo that comes out from nowhere and offers you to register an .exe file... for your bonsai's.... The intention is excellent but sounds fishy I am a very active person in the Italian & french Bonsai site and I never sow Massimo there , as being also in Italian the program , would be supposed to offered there first .. well nobody is prophet in his homeland I know ... scalded cats scare cold water , is said and nowadays we always have to be careful and is not bein paranoic but just to to be careful means to have common sense ... just my two cents FOR THE NEUROTIC (or just plain bored like me)...... Scanned by Norton Antivirus (definitions 11/11/04) - No Virus Threat Detected Zonealarm and Sygate reports- No trojan like activity, no asking to 'phone home', no opening of ports, no browser hi-jacking, no adware, nor any attempted outgoing TCP or UDP connections....are we dead yet? Lovely, I'm sold ! Joe "Theo" wrote in message ... Richard Patefield wrote: Jim Lewis wrote: On 10 Nov 2004 at 7:24, Theo wrote: Massimo you have a TOO big EGO calm down :-) try to understand actually with all the problem of viruses and trojan horses everybidy is a little bit scared before dowloading and executing whatever Actually "everybody" shouldn't be. Only those who are so dumb they don't keep their virus and spyware programs up to date Virus definitions and suchlike are always 'out of date'. Computer security companies don't issue updates until after they have discovered a vulnerability. How could they? Richard thanks to come to my rescue :-D tonite I ate this I made it myself , it was excellent http://groups.msn.com/BonsaiItalia/s...=ShowPhoto&Pho toID=935 MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
Marty Haber wrote:
This thread reminds me... So you add more clucking? R ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
From: "Marty Haber"
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: [IBC] try MyBonsai v1.1 - it is freeware This thread reminds me of the last time I was in a chicken coop: lots of clucking and a foul odor. ------------------- Hey Marty, Uh, - now, ya know your chickens were clucking hens - and I think This discussion was roosters with the usual just strutting - just evening things out and making the final determination correct. And it happened. It was just a misinterpretation on both ends. Actually kept me from yawning awhile. ;) Lynn (back to the coop) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
From: "Marty Haber"
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:27 AM Subject: [IBC] try MyBonsai v1.1 - it is freeware This thread reminds me of the last time I was in a chicken coop: lots of clucking and a foul odor. ------------------- Hey Marty, Uh, - now, ya know your chickens were clucking hens - and I think This discussion was roosters with the usual just strutting - just evening things out and making the final determination correct. And it happened. It was just a misinterpretation on both ends. Actually kept me from yawning awhile. ;) Lynn (back to the coop) ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ |
frankly we are making a storm in a glass of water ..
the style of joe the Know was a little bit unecessarily teasing ... I do not think we deserve disrespect and mockery just because we are cautious! than eveyrybody does as he pleases. Richard Patefield wrote: Marty Haber wrote: This thread reminds me... So you add more clucking? R ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
frankly we are making a storm in a glass of water ..
the style of joe the Know was a little bit unecessarily teasing ... I do not think we deserve disrespect and mockery just because we are cautious! than eveyrybody does as he pleases. Richard Patefield wrote: Marty Haber wrote: This thread reminds me... So you add more clucking? R ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- MSN messanger / or ICQ 25 666 169 4 Private Mail : «»«»«» Just for today... don't worry .....be happy «»«»«» |
My friend... our trees are sleeping... like some neurons.
What a tedium!!! -Ireneu- En/na Theo ha escrit: frankly we are making a storm in a glass of water .. the style of joe the Know was a little bit unecessarily teasing ... I do not think we deserve disrespect and mockery just because we are cautious! than eveyrybody does as he pleases. Richard Patefield wrote: Marty Haber wrote: This thread reminds me... So you add more clucking? R ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- ************************************************** ********************* Visiteu F̣rum Bonsai Obert: http://bonsaiobert.ya.st El Bonsai en Català ************************************************** ********************* |
My friend... our trees are sleeping... like some neurons.
What a tedium!!! -Ireneu- En/na Theo ha escrit: frankly we are making a storm in a glass of water .. the style of joe the Know was a little bit unecessarily teasing ... I do not think we deserve disrespect and mockery just because we are cautious! than eveyrybody does as he pleases. Richard Patefield wrote: Marty Haber wrote: This thread reminds me... So you add more clucking? R ************************************************** ****************************** ++++Sponsored, in part, by Boon Manakitivipart++++ ************************************************** ****************************** -- The IBC HOME PAGE & FAQ: http://www.internetbonsaiclub.org/ -- +++++ Questions? Help? e-mail +++++ -- ************************************************** ********************* Visiteu F̣rum Bonsai Obert: http://bonsaiobert.ya.st El Bonsai en Català ************************************************** ********************* |
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