I want to grow some garlic, but can I just use the elephant garlic I buy at
the store and just plant the cloves or do I have to do something different?
Never seen garlic plants or anything garlic at the garden centers. In zone
5.

TIA

Jimmy

Jimmy wrote:
I want to grow some garlic, but can I just use the elephant garlic I buy at
the store and just plant the cloves or do I have to do something different?
Never seen garlic plants or anything garlic at the garden centers. In zone
5.



I never plant anything that I buy from the supermarket. You don't know
if or how it has been treated or if there are any diseases that wouldn't
affect consumption but would affect new growth.

Potatoes, for example, are treated to prevent sprouting. Also, there's
no indication if the spud carries any diseases as I noted above. The
same may or may not apply to other supermarket produce, but to be safe,
I use nothing but certified seeds/sets.

Garlic set can be bought quite cheaply. Garlic needs a long season to
mature as well. Even if I get mine in this week, I don't expect to get
very large bulbs by October. I plan to try overwintering my garlic for
next year.

..

Zone 5b in Canada's Far East.

"Jimmy" wrote:

I want to grow some garlic, but can I just use the elephant garlic I buy at
the store and just plant the cloves or do I have to do something different?

You'll find the basics on my personal web page, in the .sig below.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On Sat, 05 May 2007 23:45:15 GMT, Gary Woods
wrote:

"Jimmy" wrote:

I want to grow some garlic, but can I just use the elephant garlic I buy at
the store and just plant the cloves or do I have to do something different?

You'll find the basics on my personal web page, in the .sig below.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G


It was your postings in this group that inspired me to putting our
first garlic planting last fall. Things look lovely so far this spring
here in northern NJ, and we are looking forward to our first harvest
later on.

The blueberry bushes suck this year and I lost a dogwood over the
winter, though.

Boron

Boron Elgar wrote:


It was your postings in this group that inspired me to putting our
first garlic planting last fall. Things look lovely so far this spring
here in northern NJ

It's good to share the infection.... most of my garlic plants are 6" high
now; I imagine yours are higher. Things are almost dried out enough to put
Mr. Troy-Bilt to work and put in sugar snap peas!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Gary Woods wrote:
Boron Elgar wrote:

It was your postings in this group that inspired me to putting our
first garlic planting last fall. Things look lovely so far this spring
here in northern NJ

It's good to share the infection.... most of my garlic plants are 6" high
now; I imagine yours are higher. Things are almost dried out enough to put
Mr. Troy-Bilt to work and put in sugar snap peas!


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

Yours are almost ready now Gary?? Mine are about 8-9 inches
now but haven't scaped yet let alone begun to dry. Mine
won't be ready until probably late next month or possibly
even into early July. a

--
Steve
http://adirondackoutdoors.forumcircle.com

Steve Calvin wrote:

Yours are almost ready now Gary??

Oh goodness no! The German White foliage will get a good 4 feet high. I
usually harvest in early-mid August, after going to the Seed Saver's
Exchange gathering in late July.


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On Sun, 06 May 2007 12:58:56 GMT, Gary Woods
wrote:

Boron Elgar wrote:


It was your postings in this group that inspired me to putting our
first garlic planting last fall. Things look lovely so far this spring
here in northern NJ

It's good to share the infection.... most of my garlic plants are 6" high
now; I imagine yours are higher. Things are almost dried out enough to put
Mr. Troy-Bilt to work and put in sugar snap peas!

We're dry enough to till, but I grow most of my vegetables in pots up
on the deck. I keep some tomatoes and garlic and blueberries down in
the garden, but I use the deck for other things to keep them from
being eaten by groundhogs.

Boron

Jimmy wrote:
I want to grow some garlic, but can I just use the elephant garlic I buy at
the store and just plant the cloves or do I have to do something different?
Never seen garlic plants or anything garlic at the garden centers. In zone
5.

TIA

Jimmy


Too late for this year.

I wouldn't plant anything from the stores personally. Most
often they have softneck, which if you we don't care for.
But that's just us.

Elephant "garlic", it not garlic. It's a member of the lily
family. While people use it as garlic, it isn't.

Google is your friend... ;-)

http://www.naturalhub.com/grow_veget...ype_garlic.htm



--
Steve
http://adirondackoutdoors.forumcircle.com

On Sun, 6 May 2007 01:08:21 UTC, Steve Calvin
opined:

I wouldn't plant anything from the stores personally. Most
often they have softneck, which if you we don't care for.
But that's just us.

Elephant "garlic", it not garlic. It's a member of the lily
family. While people use it as garlic, it isn't.

I'm confused, am I reading you correctly?. It (Alium Ampeloprasum)
isn't a garlic (Alium) because it is a member of the lily family?
Would you like to expand on that?

--
Stan Goodman

Stan Goodman wrote:
On Sun, 6 May 2007 01:08:21 UTC, Steve Calvin
opined:

I wouldn't plant anything from the stores personally. Most
often they have softneck, which if you we don't care for.
But that's just us.

Elephant "garlic", it not garlic. It's a member of the lily
family. While people use it as garlic, it isn't.

I'm confused, am I reading you correctly?. It (Alium Ampeloprasum)
isn't a garlic (Alium) because it is a member of the lily family?
Would you like to expand on that?

I meant to say the leek family *not* lily....

but to answer your question.... you really should learn to
use a search engine if you're going to "play" on the
internet and usenet realms...

Russian garlic (Allium ampeloprasum var. ampeloprasum) is
not a true garlic, but actually a variant of the species to
which the garden leek belongs. It has a tall, solid,
flowering stalk and broad, flat leaves much like those of
the leek, but forms a bulb consisting of very large,
garlic-like cloves. The flavor of these, while not exactly
like garlic, is much more similar to garlic than to leeks.
The flavor is milder than garlic, and much more palatable to
some people than garlic when used raw as in salads.

The mature bulb is broken up into cloves which are quite
large and with papery skins and these are used for both
culinary purposes and propagation. There are also much
smaller cloves with a hard shell that occur on the outside
of the bulb. These are often ignored, but if they are
planted, they will the first year produce a non-flowering
plant which has a solid bulb, essentially a single large
clove. In their second year, this single clove will break up
into many separate cloves. Elephant garlic is not generally
propagated by seeds.

Some people use the young unopened flowering heads as a
vegetable.

The plant, if left alone, will spread into a clump with many
flowering heads. These are often left in flower gardens as
an ornamental and to discourage pests.

--
Steve
http://adirondackoutdoors.forumcircle.com

On Sun, 6 May 2007 12:50:48 UTC, Steve Calvin
opined:
Stan Goodman wrote:
On Sun, 6 May 2007 01:08:21 UTC, Steve Calvin
opined:

I wouldn't plant anything from the stores personally. Most
often they have softneck, which if you we don't care for.
But that's just us.

Elephant "garlic", it not garlic. It's a member of the lily
family. While people use it as garlic, it isn't.

I'm confused, am I reading you correctly?. It (Alium Ampeloprasum)
isn't a garlic (Alium) because it is a member of the lily family?
Would you like to expand on that?

I meant to say the leek family *not* lily....

But "lily" is what you wrote, and is what I enquired about. You are
very charitable, are you not, with your errors.

but to answer your question.... you really should learn to
use a search engine if you're going to "play" on the
internet and usenet realms...

You seem to be rather less charitable with others, you patronizing
prick. To ask why a reputed Alium is not in fact an Alium seems rather
rational to me. To find a way to treat the questioner like an idiot
six-year-old suggests you must be in serious need of an ego boost.

I need a group like this much like a need a hole in the head. The
truth is that there is nothing here that can't be found easily on the
Web -- except of course some guys who like to act like major gurus --
by playing back en gros material they collected on the Web.

I'm out.

Russian garlic (Allium ampeloprasum var. ampeloprasum) is
not a true garlic, but actually a variant of the species to
which the garden leek belongs. It has a tall, solid,
flowering stalk and broad, flat leaves much like those of
the leek, but forms a bulb consisting of very large,
garlic-like cloves. The flavor of these, while not exactly
like garlic, is much more similar to garlic than to leeks.
The flavor is milder than garlic, and much more palatable to
some people than garlic when used raw as in salads.

The mature bulb is broken up into cloves which are quite
large and with papery skins and these are used for both
culinary purposes and propagation. There are also much
smaller cloves with a hard shell that occur on the outside
of the bulb. These are often ignored, but if they are
planted, they will the first year produce a non-flowering
plant which has a solid bulb, essentially a single large
clove. In their second year, this single clove will break up
into many separate cloves. Elephant garlic is not generally
propagated by seeds.

Some people use the young unopened flowering heads as a
vegetable.

The plant, if left alone, will spread into a clump with many
flowering heads. These are often left in flower gardens as
an ornamental and to discourage pests.

--
Stan Goodman

Stan Goodman wrote:

I'm out.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass - f-hole


--
Steve
http://adirondackoutdoors.forumcircle.com

"Stan Goodman" wrote:

I need a group like this much like a need a hole in the head. The
truth is that there is nothing here that can't be found easily on the
Web -- except of course some guys who like to act like major gurus --

IMHO, you've taken considerably more offense than was given or intended.
But if you don't like personal contact, the web and google are definitely
the right place.

Me, I'll take the good with the occasional twit. But then, that's my
general view of life.

Peace,


Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

On May 5, 7:10 pm, "Jimmy" wrote:
I want to grow some garlic, but can I just use the elephant garlic I buy at
the store and just plant the cloves or do I have to do something different?
Never seen garlic plants or anything garlic at the garden centers. In zone
5.

TIA

Jimmy

My elephant garlic were from the supermarket a few years ago. The
first several years I didn't eat any but replanted everything. Now I
plant over 100 every year in the fall. It takes 2 years to produce
really big ones. You take the one year olds that are rounds that
didn't develop cloves and plant them for giants. Some rounds are as
big as a baseball.