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On 5/31/07 3:02 PM, in article ,
"FragileWarrior" wrote: "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" wrote in 6.121: I hope you're wearing a helmet, my friend. Always. And no jewelry either. Michael The first time I popped a helmet I had to return it for a new one and write a story about what had happened so they could study it. I settled for drawing a cartoon of Evil D'argo (complete with tiny, devil, horse-horns) laughing maniacally as he sucked in his gut and spun his saddle -- and me -- off on steep slope. I think I may even have had bounce lines to show my trajectory down the hillside. I'd love to see a copy of it! C |
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Cheryl Isaak wrote in
: On 5/31/07 3:02 PM, in article , "FragileWarrior" wrote: "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" wrote in 6.121: I hope you're wearing a helmet, my friend. Always. And no jewelry either. Michael The first time I popped a helmet I had to return it for a new one and write a story about what had happened so they could study it. I settled for drawing a cartoon of Evil D'argo (complete with tiny, devil, horse-horns) laughing maniacally as he sucked in his gut and spun his saddle -- and me -- off on steep slope. I think I may even have had bounce lines to show my trajectory down the hillside. I'd love to see a copy of it! C Me, too. I didn't keep one. :( |
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On 6/1/07 6:39 AM, in article ,
"FragileWarrior" wrote: Cheryl Isaak wrote in : On 5/31/07 3:02 PM, in article , "FragileWarrior" wrote: "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" wrote in 6.121: I hope you're wearing a helmet, my friend. Always. And no jewelry either. Michael The first time I popped a helmet I had to return it for a new one and write a story about what had happened so they could study it. I settled for drawing a cartoon of Evil D'argo (complete with tiny, devil, horse-horns) laughing maniacally as he sucked in his gut and spun his saddle -- and me -- off on steep slope. I think I may even have had bounce lines to show my trajectory down the hillside. I'd love to see a copy of it! C Me, too. I didn't keep one. :( What did they say when you sent the cartoon in? It does sound funny. C |
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On 6/1/07 7:56 AM, in article ,
"FragileWarrior" wrote: Cheryl Isaak wrote in news:C2857CAE.69919% : On 6/1/07 6:39 AM, in article f3ot1c$cal$8 @blackhelicopter.databasix.com, "FragileWarrior" wrote: Cheryl Isaak wrote in : On 5/31/07 3:02 PM, in article , "FragileWarrior" wrote: "Michael \"Dog3\" Lonergan" wrote in 6.121: I hope you're wearing a helmet, my friend. Always. And no jewelry either. Michael The first time I popped a helmet I had to return it for a new one and write a story about what had happened so they could study it. I settled for drawing a cartoon of Evil D'argo (complete with tiny, devil, horse-horns) laughing maniacally as he sucked in his gut and spun his saddle -- and me -- off on steep slope. I think I may even have had bounce lines to show my trajectory down the hillside. I'd love to see a copy of it! C Me, too. I didn't keep one. :( What did they say when you sent the cartoon in? It does sound funny. C I thought it might make their day but they never acknowledged it. Maybe they wanted more technical info. (Hey, that's all I could remember -- I fell ON MY HEAD.) They did send me a new helmet but they're supposed to do that anyway. I'll bet that someone posted in their cube. C |
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In article
, Bill Rose wrote: Not to put too fine a point on it, but fossil fuel has been out of the carbon cycle for a long time and is being reintroduced. Wood burned from last year though is just going around and around in the carbon cycle. We need to stop burning fossil fuel. - Bill Coloribus gustibus non disputatum Absofrigginlootly! :-) And guess what? It'd also drastically improve global air quality... -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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the algae and other plants that sucked up all the CO2, died and were buried is what
made the planet climates what they are now. There are already huge prizes being offered for methods of sequestering CO2, essentially, CO2 scrubbers that remove CO2 from the air (CO2 is soluble in water), form a chemical reaction that removes it from the water and then inject it back into those empty oil wells or whatever. Limestone is calcium and magnesium carbonates, so it could also be used to make limestone bricks to construct houses? problem is acid dissolves limestone. and do it using non-polluting energy!!! like the sun or wind. Ingrid Bill Rose wrote: Not to put too fine a point on it, but fossil fuel has been out of the carbon cycle for a long time and is being reintroduced. Wood burned from last year though is just going around and around in the carbon cycle. We need to stop burning fossil fuel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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I am not in the lab anymore.
up to this point mother nature has been fooling with the light reaction center in plants that soak up the photon of energy and use it to break water (water is typically broken by running electricity thru a platinum wire). Chlorophyll is the best (so far) at doing this, but uses only blue and red light. It is the biotech people will start fooling with the reaction centers of chloroplasts to stick them into a synthetic membrane and/or make a better photon grabber. Maybe layer several different reaction centers that absorb across the whole spectrum so they are more efficient. hook this up with some extremely high efficiency lights over the membranes (light the flashlights that have a little generator in them) and no need for solar light. maybe have the choice of cranking it up to get it started, or, a good battery. Ingrid Omelet wrote: So invent the process and make it profitable. You could be the next multi-billionaire... It really is not that hard to make Hydrogen. The trick is getting people to use it as a fuel, make it cost effective, and SAFE. In article , wrote: the problem is, all carbon based fuels release CO2 when burned. what we need is to break the hydrogen oxygen bond in water and then burn the hydrogen back to water. plants do this, they use solar energy to knock the hydrogen off the water, use the energy of the electrons to form a covalent bond (organic) that stores the energy (using CO2). That is really clean energy. Ingrid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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In article ,
wrote: the algae and other plants that sucked up all the CO2, died and were buried is what made the planet climates what they are now. There are already huge prizes being offered for methods of sequestering CO2, essentially, CO2 scrubbers that remove CO2 from the air (CO2 is soluble in water), form a chemical reaction that removes it from the water and then inject it back into those empty oil wells or whatever. Limestone is calcium and magnesium carbonates, so it could also be used to make limestone bricks to construct houses? problem is acid dissolves limestone. and do it using non-polluting energy!!! like the sun or wind. Ingrid Yeah. You are right. But "bottom line" people will see that this costs them money. They will be dragged to environmentalism, kicking and screaming. Countries that don't clean-up will get more energy per pound (gallon, whatever), which will put us at a disadvantage (so the spin will go). The biggest bang for our buck that we can get RIGHT NOW is conservation. The $10,000,000 the the knuckle head at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. wants (and sadly, so does Obama) to put into energy savings from ethanol (which will be grown with petroleum) can be had for $3,000,000 and change by conservation. The thing with fission power is (besides the massive problem of it's waste, even in fast breeders) is that workers exposed to radiation pass their injuries on to the following generations. If a coal miner gets black lung, the injury dies with him. I know. It's a pretty cold calculus. If we could reduce CO2 and wait 30 years, there should be fusion reactors which will be infinitely safer than coal or fission. In the meantime conservation, water power (including tidal), wind power and, photovoltaic could buy us time. Bill Rose wrote: Not to put too fine a point on it, but fossil fuel has been out of the carbon cycle for a long time and is being reintroduced. Wood burned from last year though is just going around and around in the carbon cycle. We need to stop burning fossil fuel. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan - Bill Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:52:36 -0500, Omelet
wrote: So invent the process and make it profitable. You could be the next multi-billionaire... I know you may be kidding, but the problem IS money. There is no reason why gas is costing what it does. Oil tycoons made record profits the last three years in a row. It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. |
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In article ,
jangchub wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:52:36 -0500, Omelet wrote: So invent the process and make it profitable. You could be the next multi-billionaire... I know you may be kidding, but the problem IS money. Only half-way. It really IS easy to make Hydrogen. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe. The oil companies have a stranglehold on the economy. They don't WANT alternative energy and he who has the gold makes the rules. :-( There is no reason why gas is costing what it does. Oil tycoons made record profits the last three years in a row. Both true. It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Omelet expounded:
You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Yep. I think there's lots of us, but the powers-that-be don't want to hear us :o( -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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"Ann" wrote in message ... Omelet expounded: You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Yep. I think there's lots of us, but the powers-that-be don't want to hear us :o( -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** AMEN! |
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Ann wrote: Omelet expounded: You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Yep. I think there's lots of us, but the powers-that-be don't want to hear us :o( They would if we could (somehow) quit buying gasoline, but how many of us can do that? -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:17:39 -0500, Omelet
You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) I know! |
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 10:58:50 -0400, Ann wrote:
Omelet expounded: You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Yep. I think there's lots of us, but the powers-that-be don't want to hear us :o( There are a LOT more of us now than ever before. AT one time, even in this newsgroup we were the minority. It is wonderful to see American's finally waking up to the administration full of theft and lies. |
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In article ,
Omelet wrote: In article , jangchub wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:52:36 -0500, Omelet wrote: So invent the process and make it profitable. You could be the next multi-billionaire... I know you may be kidding, but the problem IS money. Only half-way. It really IS easy to make Hydrogen. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe. The oil companies have a stranglehold on the economy. They don't WANT alternative energy and he who has the gold makes the rules. :-( There is no reason why gas is costing what it does. Oil tycoons made record profits the last three years in a row. Both true. It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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In article
, Bill Rose wrote: It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article ,
Omelet wrote: In article , Bill Rose wrote: It's disgusting, along with the greed and every putrid thing about it, the desire for it, the attachment to it,etc. You are preachin' to the choir. ;-) Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:09:47 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote: Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes). It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer. Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that. - Bill(y) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) I don't remember the Hindenberg boom, but I'm in agreement with the rest of your statements. We've known about this for fifty years. This gas "crisis" is such a bunch of bullshit. I read a very funny phrase in another forum about dubya. If people are sensitive to sexual ideas, turn away now; someone's tag line was: I wish somebody would blow him so we could start the impeachment process. I found that hysterically profound! Now, why are the two most popular hybrids made by Japan? The Ford doesn't live up to the hype, or so I've read. If we really wanted vehicles which get 100 miles to a gallon of gas, we could do it. We don't need speed boats. Maybe coming up with localization is another good way to conserve. Build communities which have all they need within walking or biking distance. Especially in places like Texas where land is spread far and wide...but that too is rapidly changing. Eh, my knee hurts. |
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, Bill Rose wrote: I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) lol ok, if you put it that way... ;-D -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote: I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) It's not all testosterone - I've enjoyed my turns in the big engines/lots of cylinder cars that have graced friends and family. A gas to drive, but not everyday. It's sort of like roller coasters. Love them, but not a steady diet of them. C Ok, I can go along with that. :-) -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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In article ,
Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 6/3/07 9:42 AM, in article , "Omelet" wrote: In article , Cheryl Isaak wrote: I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life. 0-60 in 4 seconds? Why? puzzled look It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either. y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) It's not all testosterone - I've enjoyed my turns in the big engines/lots of cylinder cars that have graced friends and family. A gas to drive, but not everyday. It's sort of like roller coasters. Love them, but not a steady diet of them. C Ok, I can go along with that. :-) I know lots of performance freaks. They all have much better mileage cars for every day. Cheryl I was stunned once (more often than that actually but this was more like surprised) to meet a Frenchman (in France) who loved his 25 mpg American car because it had hydraulic valve lifters and required very little maintenance. In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45. The thing with driving a sling-shot (and risking the organism) is that it seems to be an absolute requirement that they clock in at 110 decibels as well. I know about back pressure but these things seem engineered to say "Hey, look at me". As my BP creeps up, all I see is a target. - Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:38:07 -0700, Bill Rose
wrote: I was stunned once (more often than that actually but this was more like surprised) to meet a Frenchman (in France) who loved his 25 mpg American car because it had hydraulic valve lifters and required very little maintenance. In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45. Whaaaat? You are still driving a VW bus? Ohhhhh.....the sweet memories! Peace Brother Charlie |
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In article , Charlie wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 10:38:07 -0700, Bill Rose wrote: I was stunned once (more often than that actually but this was more like surprised) to meet a Frenchman (in France) who loved his 25 mpg American car because it had hydraulic valve lifters and required very little maintenance. In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45. Whaaaat? You are still driving a VW bus? Ohhhhh.....the sweet memories! Peace Brother Charlie What can I say? When I work, it is mein schlaftwagon. During lunch I take my nap. I work until I'm tired (2 P.M. or so) and then I take my lunch (siesta, 25 min.) and then I'm good for another 6 hr. Why do you think people have VW vans. Motel rooms on wheels for the first 20 yr. Crash pads for the next 20 yr. - Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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"Bill Rose" wrote in message
In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45. Aaaah. A man with style. We just missed out buying one on the weekend. It was a beauty. We've been looking for one for months. 1976, in immaculate condition except that it needed a clutch adjustment. Sadly not to be. |
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well.... we have one sports car, one gas efficient mazda and a trailer for when we
need to haul stuff instead of an SUV or van. we moved into the city and DH is now 1 mile from work, I am 5 miles. no more big commutes. we shop locally and I mostly buy online so there arent a lot of shopping trips. we dont do "car" vacations and long trips. our gasoline needs have really dropped. Ingrid Omelet wrote: They would if we could (somehow) quit buying gasoline, but how many of us can do that? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan |
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In article
, "FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Bill Rose" wrote in message In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45. Aaaah. A man with style. We just missed out buying one on the weekend. It was a beauty. We've been looking for one for months. 1976, in immaculate condition except that it needed a clutch adjustment. Sadly not to be. Thanks for the kind words. I've always heard that those air cooled vans had lots of problems. Not so? I've had lots of interests in my life but cars were never one of them, until it broke. The Westphalia was always my favorite. A person was always ready for a picnic. Take care, Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) |
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In article ,
Omelet wrote: In article , wrote: well.... we have one sports car, one gas efficient mazda and a trailer for when we need to haul stuff instead of an SUV or van. we moved into the city and DH is now 1 mile from work, I am 5 miles. no more big commutes. we shop locally and I mostly buy online so there arent a lot of shopping trips. we dont do "car" vacations and long trips. our gasoline needs have really dropped. Ingrid I can't move closer to work. It's not practical so I use close to 2 gallons per day during my commute. But I make sure that I do most of my shopping on the way home from work as a slightly different route will pass me thru town on the way home, and shopping trips to Austin are severely limited. I'm on vacation this week and won't be going anywhere. I have too much to do here anyway. ;-) I also shop by phone somewhat before going out so I can make just one trip to one store. I don't like to shop on line as credit card interest rates are too high so I limit their use to what I can pay off each month. Get a debit card. No interest. We got one just for shopping online and on ebay. (We don't believe in credit cards.) Jan -- Bedouin proverb: If you have no troubles, buy a goat. |
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In article ,
Jan Flora wrote: I don't like to shop on line as credit card interest rates are too high so I limit their use to what I can pay off each month. Get a debit card. No interest. We got one just for shopping online and on ebay. (We don't believe in credit cards.) Jan I do have a debit card. It's not recommended that a debit card be used for on line purchases as there is no way to recover the funds if there is a problem. Once the money is gone, it's gone. Credit card purchases have their own built in warantee. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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Omelet expounded:
I do have a debit card. It's not recommended that a debit card be used for on line purchases as there is no way to recover the funds if there is a problem. Once the money is gone, it's gone. Credit card purchases have their own built in warantee. That depends. My debit card is a MasterCard, and it has all the protection of a credit card. And I've had to use that protection in the past, so I know it works. -- Ann, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** |
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Ann wrote: Omelet expounded: I do have a debit card. It's not recommended that a debit card be used for on line purchases as there is no way to recover the funds if there is a problem. Once the money is gone, it's gone. Credit card purchases have their own built in warantee. That depends. My debit card is a MasterCard, and it has all the protection of a credit card. And I've had to use that protection in the past, so I know it works. Ok, that's good info, thanks! My debit card is a visa. I'll have to talk to my bank. I am new to debit cards. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson |
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"Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Ann wrote: Omelet expounded: I do have a debit card. It's not recommended that a debit card be used for on line purchases as there is no way to recover the funds if there is a problem. Once the money is gone, it's gone. Credit card purchases have their own built in warantee. That depends. My debit card is a MasterCard, and it has all the protection of a credit card. And I've had to use that protection in the past, so I know it works. Ok, that's good info, thanks! My debit card is a visa. I'll have to talk to my bank. I am new to debit cards. -- Peace, Om Remove _ to validate e-mails. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack Nicholson Mine is has the visa logo also. Any debit cards with a major credit card logo have the same perks as a credit without all the downfalls. or that's the way it works around here anyway. definitely check with your bank - but if you have the logo - you should be fine. rae |
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