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Silly me. Yesterday I was running around telling people that a drought
was imminent in the mid-west corn belt and the everyone should be
planting BIG gardens.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation/story/514388.html
Silly me, I don't know what I was thinking.

The second shoe has fallen. Make those VERY BIG gardens.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/bu...crop.html?_r=1
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A Global Need for Grain That Farms Can¹t Fill

by Dan Koeck for The New York Times


On his North Dakota farm, Dennis Miller has seen wheat prices steadily
climb. More Photos

By DAVID STREITFELD
Published: March 9, 2008

LAWTON, N.D. ‹ Whatever Dennis Miller decides to plant this year on his
2,760-acre farm, the world needs. Wheat prices have doubled in the last
six months. Corn is on a tear. Barley, sunflower seeds, canola and
soybeans are all up sharply.

The cost of bread in Nigeria soared in the last year as demand for wheat
outstripped supply. More Photos »

³For once, there¹s great reason to be optimistic,² Mr. Miller said.

But the prices that have renewed Mr. Miller¹s faith in farming are
causing pain far and wide. A tailor in Lagos, Nigeria, named Abel Ojuku
said recently that he had been forced to cut back on the bread he and
his family love.

³If you wanted to buy three loaves, now you buy one,² Mr. Ojuku said.

Everywhere, the cost of food is rising sharply. Whether the world is in
for a long period of continued increases has become one of the most
urgent issues in economics.

Many factors are contributing to the rise, but the biggest is runaway
demand. In recent years, the world¹s developing countries have been
growing about 7 percent a year, an unusually rapid rate by historical
standards.

The high growth rate means hundreds of millions of people are, for the
first time, getting access to the basics of life, including a better
diet. That jump in demand is helping to drive up the prices of
agricultural commodities.

Farmers the world over are producing flat-out. American agricultural
exports are expected to increase 23 percent this year to $101 billion, a
record. The world¹s grain stockpiles have fallen to the lowest levels in
decades.

³Everyone wants to eat like an American on this globe,² said Daniel W.
Basse of the AgResource Company, a Chicago consultancy. ³But if they do,
we¹re going to need another two or three globes to grow it all.²

In contrast to a run-up in the 1990s, investors this time are betting ‹
as they buy and sell contracts for future delivery of food commodities ‹
that scarcity and high prices will last for years.

If that comes to pass, it is likely to present big problems in managing
the American economy. Rising food prices in the United States are
already helping to fuel inflation reminiscent of the 1970s.

And the increases could become an even bigger problem overseas. The
increases that have already occurred are depriving poor people of food,
setting off social unrest and even spurring riots in some countries.

In the long run, the food supply could grow. More land may be pulled
into production, and outdated farming methods in some countries may be
upgraded. Moreover, rising prices could force more people to cut back.
The big question is whether such changes will be enough to bring supply
and demand into better balance.

³People are trying to figure out, is this a new era?² said Joseph
Glauber, chief economist for the United States Department of
Agriculture. ³Are prices going to be high forever?²

Competition for Acres

At a moment when much of the country is contemplating recession, farmers
are flourishing. The Agriculture Department forecasts that farm income
this year will be 50 percent greater than the average of the last 10
years. The flood of money into American agriculture is leading to rising
land values and a renewed sense of optimism in rural America.

³All of a sudden farmers are more in control, which is a weird position
for them,² said Brian Sorenson of the Northern Crops Institute in Fargo,
N.D. ³Everyone¹s knocking at their door, saying, ŒGrow this, grow that.¹
²

Mr. Miller¹s family has worked the Great Plains for more than a century.
One afternoon early last month, he turned on the computer in his
combination office and laundry room to see what commodity prices were up
to.

³Oh, my goodness, look at that,² Mr. Miller said. Barley was $6.40 a
bushel, approaching a price that would tempt him to plant more. Soybeans
were $12.79 a bushel, up from $8.50 in August.

The frozen earth outside was only a few weeks from coming to life, but
Mr. Miller was happily uncertain about what to plant. Last year, the
decision was easy for Mr. Miller and everyone else: prices of corn were
high because of new government mandates for production of ethanol, a
motor fuel. This year, so many crops look like good bets, and there is
so little land on which to plant them.

³I¹m debating between spring wheat, durum wheat, canola, malting barley,
confection sunflowers, oil sunflowers, soybeans, flax and corn,² Mr.
Miller said.

The biggest blemish on this winter of joy is that farmers¹ own costs are
rising rapidly. Expenses for the diesel fuel used to run tractors and
combines and for the fertilizer essential to modern agriculture have
soared. Mr. Miller does not just want high prices; he needs them to pay
his bills.

Articles in this series will examine growing demands on, and changes in,
the world's production of food.
More From the Series »

Until recently, he could expect around $3 a bushel for his wheat ‹ far
less than his parents and grandparents received, when inflation is taken
into account. Consumption in the United States was dropping as Americans
shunned carbohydrates. The export market, while healthy, faced
competition.

Now prices have more than tripled, partly because of a drought in
Australia and bad harvests elsewhere and also because of unslaked global
demand for crackers, bread and noodles. In seven of the last eight
years, world wheat consumption has outpaced production. Stockpiles are
at their lowest point in decades.

Around the world, wheat is becoming a precious commodity. In Pakistan,
thousands of paramilitary troops have been deployed since January to
guard trucks carrying wheat and flour. Malaysia, trying to keep its
commodities at home, has made it a crime to export flour and other
products without a license. Consumer groups in Italy staged a widely
publicized (if also widely disregarded) one-day pasta strike last fall.

In the United States, the price of dry pasta has risen 20 percent since
October, according to government data. Flour is up 19 percent since last
summer. Over all, food and beverage prices are rising 4 percent a year,
the fastest pace in nearly two decades.

The American Bakers Association last month took the radical step of
suggesting that American exports be curtailed to keep wheat at home,
though the group later backed off.

If all this suggests a golden age for American growers, it could well be
brief, said Bruce Babcock, an economist at Iowa State University. He
predicted that farmers would do their best to ramp up production,
possibly to the point of pulling land out of conservation programs so
they could plant more. ³Give farmers a price incentive, and they¹ll
produce,² he said.

The Agriculture Department forecasts that world wheat production will
increase 8 percent this year. In the United States, spring and durum
wheat plantings are expected to rise by two million acres, helping to
drive prices down to $7 a bushel, the government said.

Yet the competition among crops for acreage has become so intense that
some farmers think the government and analysts like Mr. Babcock are
being overly optimistic.

Read Smith, a farmer in St. John, Wash., thinks a new era is at hand for
all sorts of crops. ³Price spikes have usually been short-lived,² he
said. ³I think this one is different.²

His example is plain old mustard. Two years ago, Mr. Smith would have
been paid less than 15 cents a pound for mustard seeds. As more
lucrative crops began supplanting mustard, dealers raised their offering
price to 20 cents, then 30 cents, then 48 cents early this year. Mr.
Smith gave in, agreeing to convert up to 100 acres of wheat fields to
mustard.

Mr. Smith said it was inevitable that supermarket mustard, just like
flour, bread and pasta, would become more expensive.

³We¹ve lulled the public with cheap food,² he said. ³It¹s not going to
be a steal anymore.²

Bread to Be Had, for a Price

As the newly urbanized and newly affluent seek more protein and more
calories, a phenomenon called ³diet globalization² is playing out around
the world. Demand is growing for pork in Russia, beef in Indonesia and
dairy products in Mexico. Rice is giving way to noodles, home-cooked
food to fast food.

Though wracked with upheaval for years and with many millions still
rooted in poverty, Nigeria has a growing middle class. Median income per
person doubled in the first half of this decade, to $560 in 2005. Much
of this increase is being spent on food.

Nigeria grows little wheat, but its people have developed a taste for
bread, in part because of marketing by American exporters. Between 1995
and 2005, per capita wheat consumption in Nigeria more than tripled, to
44 pounds a year. Bread has been displacing traditional foods like eba,
dumplings made from cassava root.

Nigeria¹s wheat imports in 2007 were forecast to rise 10 percent more.
But demand was also rising in many other places, from Tunisia to
Venezuela to India. At the same time, drought and competition from other
crops limited supply.

So wheat prices soared, and over the last year, bread prices in Nigeria
have jumped about 50 percent.

Amid a public outcry, bakers started making smaller loaves, hoping
customers who could not afford to pay more would pay about the same to
eat less. Sales have dropped for street hawkers selling loaves. With
imports shrinking, mills are running at half capacity.

At Honeywell Flour Mills, one of the largest in Nigeria, executives were
glued one recent day to commodity screens. The price of wheat ticked
ever upward. ³Even when you see a little downturn, you wait for some few
hours or a day, and before you know it, it¹s gone way up again,² said
the production director, Nino Albert Ozara.

Despite the crisis, there is little sense of a permanent retreat from
wheat in Nigeria. The mills are increasing their capacity, hoping for a
day when supply is sufficient to stabilize prices. ³The moment you
develop a taste, you are hooked,² said a confident Muyiwa Talabi,
director of an American wheat-marketing office in Lagos.

Mr. Ojuku, the man who buys fewer loaves, and one of his fellow tailors
in Lagos, Mukala Sule, 39, are trying to adjust to the new era.

³I must eat bread and tea in the morning. Otherwise, I can¹t be happy,²
Mr. Sule said as he sat on a bench at a roadside cafe a few weeks ago.
For a breakfast that includes a small loaf, he pays about $1 a day,
twice what the traditional eba would have cost him.

To save a few pennies, he decided to skip butter. The bread was the
important thing.

³Even if the price goes up,² Mr. Sule said, ³if I have the money, I¹ll
still buy it.²
---------

Just to re-cap the most salient point.

³Everyone wants to eat like an American on this globe,² said Daniel W.
Basse of the AgResource Company, a Chicago consultancy. ³But if they do,
we¹re going to need another two or three globes to grow it all.²
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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:59:43 -0500, Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:37:41 -0800, Billy wrote:


The second shoe has fallen. Make those VERY BIG gardens.


I should have added this too.

http://www.energybulletin.net/41270.html

Excerpt:

This is potentially a serious crisis, but it also represents an
opportunity. Sharp increases in the price of food mean that food
production methods that may not be economical under current conditions
could well pass the breakeven point and begin turning a profit. To
thrive in the economic climate of the near future, of course, such
methods would have to meet certain requirements, but most of these can
be anticipated easily enough.

These alternative farming projects would have to use minimal fossil
fuel inputs, since fuel costs will likely be very high by past
standards for much of the foreseeable future. They would need to focus
on local distribution, since those same fuel costs will put
long-distance transport out of reach. They would have to focus on
intensive production from very small plots, since acreage large enough
for industrial farming will likely increase in price. They would also
benefit greatly by relying on human labor with hand tools, since the
economic consequences of peak oil will likely send unemployment rates
soaring while making capital hard to come by.

All of these criteria are met, as it happens, by the small organic
farms and truck gardens that many relocalization theorists hold up as
models for future agriculture. Already a growing presence, especially
around West Coast cities, these agricultural alternatives have evolved
their own distribution system, relying on farmers markets, co-op
groceries, local restauranteurs and community-supported agriculture
schemes to carry out an end run around food distribution systems geared
toward corporate monopolies.

As more grains and other fermentable bulk commodities get turned into
ethanol, and food prices rise in response, such arrangements may well
become a significant source of food for a sizeable fraction of
Americans – and in the process, of course, the economics of small-scale
alternative farms are likely to improve a great deal. The result may
well resemble nothing so much as the agricultural system of the former
Soviet Union in its last years, featuring vast farms that had become
almost irrelevant to the national food supply, while little market
gardens in backyards produced most of the food people actually ate.

If Staniford is correct and the postpeak energy crisis turns out to be
a passing phase, that bimodal system might endure for quite some time,
as it did in the Soviet Union. If more pessimistic assessments of our
energy future are closer to the mark, as I suspect they are, the
industrial half of the system can be counted on to collapse at some
point down the road once energy and resource availability drop to
levels insufficient to sustain a continental economy. If this turns out
to be the case, the small intensive farms around the urban fringes –
mammals amid agribusiness dinosaurs – may well become the nucleus of
the next agriculture.


In my case, I'll be swapping vegetables for eggs in a win/win situation.

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Charlie,
how do you use dent corn, as a flour, as hominy, as . . . ?

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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:59:43 -0500, Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:37:41 -0800, Billy wrote:


The second shoe has fallen. Make those VERY BIG gardens.


I should have added this too.

http://www.energybulletin.net/41270.html

Excerpt:

This is potentially a serious crisis, but it also represents an
opportunity. Sharp increases in the price of food mean that food
production methods that may not be economical under current conditions
could well pass the breakeven point and begin turning a profit. To
thrive in the economic climate of the near future, of course, such
methods would have to meet certain requirements, but most of these can
be anticipated easily enough.

These alternative farming projects would have to use minimal fossil
fuel inputs, since fuel costs will likely be very high by past
standards for much of the foreseeable future. They would need to focus
on local distribution, since those same fuel costs will put
long-distance transport out of reach. They would have to focus on
intensive production from very small plots, since acreage large enough
for industrial farming will likely increase in price. They would also
benefit greatly by relying on human labor with hand tools, since the
economic consequences of peak oil will likely send unemployment rates
soaring while making capital hard to come by.

All of these criteria are met, as it happens, by the small organic
farms and truck gardens that many relocalization theorists hold up as
models for future agriculture. Already a growing presence, especially
around West Coast cities, these agricultural alternatives have evolved
their own distribution system, relying on farmers markets, co-op
groceries, local restauranteurs and community-supported agriculture
schemes to carry out an end run around food distribution systems geared
toward corporate monopolies.

_______
As mentioned in an excerpt form "The Revolution Will Not Be Microwaved"

Lacking the "inputs" (such as chemicals, fuel, and hybrid seeds)
required for industrial-style monoculture, Cuba was forced to transform
its farming system. Food production was decentralized, and farmers in
each region were encouraged to diversify rather than specialize. Urban,
family, and community gardening, which had always been features of Cuban
life, were officially encouraged, and a program ot public education and
model farms was undertaken to spread knowledge about biological farming
methods. The Ministry of Agriculture even replaced its front lawn with
vegetable gardens.

By 1999, Cuba had become a nation of food producers. Urban gardens alone
produced more than eight hundred thousand tons of food, mostly
vegetables. There is no way to compare this sector to pre-1989 levels,
because until then this sector was considered insignificant[ and not
counted. However, this remarkable statistic shows that cities can
produce food, though not in the style of acres upon acres of grain
fields; instead, intensive cultivation of yards and parks and rooftops
can ensure a steady supply of fresh produce to urbanites.
--------

We now return you to the rant in progress.


As more grains and other fermentable bulk commodities get turned into
ethanol, and food prices rise in response, such arrangements may well
become a significant source of food for a sizeable fraction of
Americans – and in the process, of course, the economics of small-scale
alternative farms are likely to improve a great deal. The result may
well resemble nothing so much as the agricultural system of the former
Soviet Union in its last years, featuring vast farms that had become
almost irrelevant to the national food supply, while little market
gardens in backyards produced most of the food people actually ate.

If Staniford is correct and the postpeak energy crisis turns out to be
a passing phase, that bimodal system might endure for quite some time,
as it did in the Soviet Union. If more pessimistic assessments of our
energy future are closer to the mark, as I suspect they are, the
industrial half of the system can be counted on to collapse at some
point down the road once energy and resource availability drop to
levels insufficient to sustain a continental economy. If this turns out
to be the case, the small intensive farms around the urban fringes –
mammals amid agribusiness dinosaurs – may well become the nucleus of
the next agriculture.

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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:30:38 -0800, Billy wrote:


In my case, I'll be swapping vegetables for eggs in a win/win situation.


Bingo. Underground economy.

Dmitry Orlov is good reading.

Viva la Revolución Jardín
Charlie


I just want to go to bed, morgen früh.
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In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:30:38 -0800, Billy wrote:


In my case, I'll be swapping vegetables for eggs in a win/win situation.


Bingo. Underground economy.

Dmitry Orlov is good reading.

Viva la Revolución Jardín
Charlie


I just want to go to bed, morgen früh.


I'm awake again, sorta. Feel like a rented mule that's been beaten.
Dmitry Orlov, "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American
Prospects", which won't be released until June 2008. That Dmitry Orlov?
Tell me more.
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In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article
,
Billy wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:30:38 -0800, Billy wrote:


In my case, I'll be swapping vegetables for eggs in a win/win situation.

Bingo. Underground economy.

Dmitry Orlov is good reading.

Viva la Revolución Jardín
Charlie


I just want to go to bed, morgen früh.


I'm awake again, sorta. Feel like a rented mule that's been beaten.
Dmitry Orlov, "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American
Prospects", which won't be released until June 2008. That Dmitry Orlov?
Tell me more.


Was nosing around and found:
The final empire : the collapse of civilization and the seed of the
future /
by Kotke, Wm. H. (William H.)
Portland, Or. : Arrow Point Press, c1993.

This one is so old that even the library has it. Might make a good
musical. In any event, I requested it. Funny, there isn't even a line
for this one. I'd better hurry up and finish the "Emerald City".
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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:58:05 -0700, Billy wrote:


I'm awake again, sorta. Feel like a rented mule that's been beaten.
Dmitry Orlov, "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American
Prospects", which won't be released until June 2008. That Dmitry Orlov?
Tell me more.


http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/

Lot's of articles and essays. He lived thru the collapse of the SU and
draws some good comparisons to what we are experiencing.

In several ways, the Russian people were more prepared for, and able to
weather, collapse, than we will be. The following article explains.

Friends tell me that the food distribution system had already gone to
hell before the Soviet Union's collapse. However many people had second
homes in the countryside (dachas) where they could grow food to eat and
barter. That is one up on us.

When the Soviet Union fell, life expectancy was in the low 70s,
afterward it fell to 58.

http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dtxqwqr_20dc52sm

As long as you're at it, check out James Howard Kunstler

http://kunstler.com/

Can't go near Dmitry Orlov on amazon.com without meeting up with Mr.
Kunstler.

These should keep you busy for a bit.

Just what I needed.

Care
Charlie

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In article , Charlie wrote:

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:40:28 -0700, Billy wrote:

In several ways, the Russian people were more prepared for, and able to
weather, collapse, than we will be. The following article explains.

Friends tell me that the food distribution system had already gone to
hell before the Soviet Union's collapse. However many people had second
homes in the countryside (dachas) where they could grow food to eat and
barter. That is one up on us.


High prices and our food distribution system will likely force many
more to rethink growing their own.

Discussion today at table with the childrens centered around this very
subject. I so pleased, they actually *were* payin' attention all those
years. They are both gardening and we're planning on planting a bunch
of fruit trees on their two properties.

Crude oil - 108.13
Euro - 1.5343

There is rumor of another Fed rate cut......that otter help the dollar
a bunch more.

Double, er triple, yer seed order and negotiate with the neighbors for
that nice little sunny spot they have. You need some hens scratchin'
about on your hillside. I 'spose they have laws against that level of
self-sufficieny where you are.

Oh yeah, and buy another freezer.

These should keep you busy for a bit.

Just what I needed.

Care
Charlie

Thanks for the view.


You are soitenly welcome!


Those ideas are already in orbit.
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