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Old 04-06-2008, 06:17 PM posted to rec.gardens,rec.gardens.edible
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Default Roundup - how far travel?

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"Val" wrote:
In article , Persephone
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Please don't lynch me for asking about the "R" word!

I just had HUGE amounts of the worst, most deep-rooted
weed-grass taken out of a rose path, and don't want to go through that
again soon!

Already the monsters are poking through the 3" layer of
small bark mulch I put down.

So my question is: How far does Roundup travel? My
rosebushes are about 2-3 feet apart. If I put Roundup
in the middle between bushes, will it hurt them?


I wasn't planning to spray. Looks like I don't know how Roundup
works. I was just going to pour a diluted amount right on the
little monsters poking their heads out.

Is this do-able?


It only works well on the foliage. There's pretty much no root
activity. You could water plants (on the soil) with a solution of
Roundup and it won't kill them. It's supposed to bind to soil and get
inactivated quickly. I've even heard of some people using relatively
dirty water to dilute the concentrated versions, which reduces the
effectiveness.

What I really want to know is how far it travels parallel - sideways.
IOW, if I pour it on some weed poking out, when it sinks in, will it
move 2 feet to each side? One foot? Inches?


Once it reaches the soil, I wouldn't worry about it. It doesn't
affect roots, bark, or woody stems.


Rule # 1. READ THE #$%$ DIRECTIONS!!!!

Obviously you haven't. ( I am not addressing YPW.) I would assume if you are
literate enough to post and read in a newsgroup you would be able to read
directions. This is only an assumption, I could be wrong.

I frankly don't have a problem with Roundup being used as a last resort. I
DO have a huge problem with real ****ing ignorant people. You do not POUR
Round-up. You would know that if you had merely GLANCED at instructions or
done a modicum of research.

As you have been told in this newsgroup; Round-up is taken in thru leaves
and fleshy stems into the root system. It does NOT travel through the
ground. I would use the scientific big words for this process but you
obviously have sever problems comprehending the small ones. POURING does no
good other than saturate a plant and waste the product. You plan to use a
dilute solution? How dilute.......oh never mind, YOU are just pulling this
little weed killing fiasco out of your ass, how could you possibly answer a
question when you DON'T THINK!!

Since it isn't yet a felony to actually sell a moron this product I will
make a few suggestions that you will no doubt totally ignore as you will any
mixing or application instructions a product since it appears your SOP is
"dilute & pour".

You need some sort of a sprayer type device. If it has a wand more the
better, you'll be able to hold the end of the spray wand close to the ground
where this grass is and eliminate most drift and give you decent control of
the application. DO NOT SPRY YOUR ROSES but you can spray close to the woody
trunk/stem if you keep the spray nozzle close to the ground.. Plants do NOT
take Roundup in through the roots.

For the fastest and best results choose to do this in the early morning of a
hot, dry day. IF you should actually happen to read the instructions they
will also give you optimum time and temperatures for application. Now go
get a big bottle of red food coloring and proceed. Yes, I'm serious, RED
food coloring, go get a 1 oz. or 2 oz. bottle.

RTFI (Read The ****ing Instructions) when mixing this product in the
sprayer.....this is NOT a seat of the pants, head up your ass "I'll just
dilute some" procedure. You will find there are directions, if you RTFI,
specifically for Bermuda Grass. Lastly add the bottle of red food coloring.
This will allow you to see exactly where you have been spraying. The reddish
color will fade away in a short while from sun light and watering. Go to
the furthest point of the area to be sprayed and start there. Walk sides
ways and backwards while spraying as you would paint your way out of a
room.....NOT into a corner. This will eliminate the chance of you stepping
in the spray and then leaving dead foot tracks through your lawn when you
are distracted by butterflies and birds and go trotting off to investigate
as would a small, curious child with a very short attention span. If you
only have a little hand pump (trigger) type spray bottle BEND OVER and keep
the nozzle close to the ground while you spray. If you buy a pre-mixed spray
bottle of Roundup you can still add the red food coloring.

Let the grass get all brown and dead and crispy before you start
pulling/digging it out. Bermuda Grass needs to suck this stuff down into its
root system to kill the whole plant, you still may have to spray again in a
few weeks when you see some stray growth appearing......then go back and
read this post again before proceeding.

It's all coming back to me why I put Persephone in the PLONK file.

Val


I just get all warm and fuzzy feeling, when Val writes like that ;-)

Maybe we could turn "Perse" in to the "Santa Monica's Cooperative
Natural Grocer" for dancing with the devil, they could tune her up.

But, before you set forth, in league with the divil and armed with his
potions, have you considered that since you already have the bermuda
grass under a 3" layer of small bark mulch, why not pull the mulch back
and put plastic sheeting down over your problem, then recover with your
mulch. You could even pull up what Bermuda Grass you can first, or
maybe you just like "bad boys" and want to sleep with the devil;-)

Talking the talk AND walking the walk.
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