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All my edible's are dying
Evening Ladies and Gent's
This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard |
All my edible's are dying
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Anything_exotic wrote: Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard Sounds like a fungal problem. How humid is it in the greenhouse? Is it getting plenty of air flow? -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
All my edible's are dying
"Omelet" wrote in message ... In article , Anything_exotic wrote: Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard Sounds like a fungal problem. How humid is it in the greenhouse? Is it getting plenty of air flow? -- Peace! Om That would be a good chance but there may be more than one problem, hard to say without seeing. Also how would the curcurbits get pollinated? Can bees get into the greenhouse? Are you doing it by hand? David |
All my edible's are dying
Anything_exotic said:
Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Could be blossom end rot, which is a problem of low calcium availability in the fruit. (/quote from http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3117.html) Blossom-end rot is induced when demand for calcium exceeds supply. This may result from low calcium levels or high amounts of competitive cations in the soil, drought stress, or excessive soil moisture fluctuations which reduce uptake and movement of calcium into the plant, or rapid, vegetative growth due to excessive nitrogen fertilization. Management 1. Maintain the soil pH around 6.5. Liming will supply calcium and will increase the ratio of calcium ions to other competitive ions in the soil. 2. Use nitrate nitrogen as the fertilizer nitrogen source. Ammoniacal nitrogen may increase blossom-end rot as excess ammonium ions reduce calcium uptake. Avoid over-fertilization as side dressings during early fruiting, especially with ammoniacal forms of nitrogen. 3. Avoid drought stress and wide fluctuations in soil moisture by using mulches and/or irrigation. Plants generally need about one inch of moisture per week from rain or irrigation for proper growth and development. 4. Foliar applications of calcium, which are often advocated, are of little value because of poor absorption and movement to fruit where it is needed. (end quote) Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, The first thing I would suspect is a lack of pollination. Do bees have access to the greenhouse? If not, then you will have to hand pollinate the squash. They could also be suffering something like blossom end rot, or otherwise aborting fruit due to nutrient or temperature stress. How hot does it get in the greenhouse during the day? (Hope I have caught all the typos, as I have injured some fingers on my left hand, and I touch type...) -- Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) After enlightenment, the laundry. |
All my edible's are dying
I'm replying to this post with my tomato problem since I'm getting an
error message trying to post a new message! Two of my tomato plants suddenly went into total wilt. I've never seen this type of wilting problem. Last year in a different spot I had some wilting disease that started at the bottom of the plant and they responded a bit to extra watering, for a while, before they expired. These tomatoes are wilted top to bottom, no leaf discoloring. I'd appreciate any help identifying this problem and either a cure or future prevention. This is only the second year of planting tomatoes in this area and so far the other plants near these two affected ones are doing fine. I'm getting a lot of strange things going on in the garden this year - plants that don't look healthy, black spotting on a brand new, expensive hydrangea and almost overnight major increase in black spotting on all my roses, other perennials that just don't look right etc. I'm an organic gardener, so any help in that direction would be most appreciated. Thanks! June |
All my edible's are dying
sometime in the recent past Anything_exotic posted this:
Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard I have a small cold frame with some veggies in it. What I notice is that it has the appearance of high humidity, but the soil can still be relatively dry. As a result, it gets watered less than the outside garden. Not a solution, just a suggestion. Water - not enough and you're gonna die - too much and you're gonna die too! It's a balancing act. Wilson |
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Thanks for all your replys, I have notced recently that my greenhouse is always soaking, so maybe a humidiy problem, how would I solve this? leave the door open all day? I recently wrapped bubble wrap around my greenhouse, (somebody said to stop direct rays burning leaves etc..) I dont know I am new to all this |
All my edible's are dying
OK, I don't run a greenhouse, but um, wrapping it in bubble wrap to
prevent burning plants.. no. There are things for you greenies that are called sunshade, what they look like is a huge sheet of screened netting. Comes in different weights to reduce different amounts of sun. Take the bubble wrap off, it just ain't no good for ya. I don't see that that alone would cause all your grief, but it's a step in the right direction to put some sunshade over the greenhouse instead of it. Cheers |
All my edible's are dying
On Jun 26, 6:13�pm, gonzo wrote:
OK, I don't run a greenhouse, but um, wrapping it in bubble wrap to prevent burning plants.. no. There are things for you greenies that are called sunshade, what they look like is a huge sheet of screened netting. �Comes in different weights to reduce different amounts of sun. Take the bubble wrap off, it just ain't no good for ya. �I don't see that that alone would cause all your grief, but it's a step in the right direction to put some sunshade over the greenhouse instead of it. Cheers My greenhouse was always sopping too, and I've had problems with tomato plants wilting. Sinice I opened all the windows things seem to have gotten better. There are some blossoms, but no fruit yet. The plants seem healthier, though. |
All my edible's are dying
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Anything_exotic wrote: 'Wilson[_2_ Wrote: ;800448']sometime in the recent past Anything_exotic posted this:- Evening Ladies and Gent's This year I have dicided to get myself a greenhouse and grow some tomatoe's etc... Everything is working great untill the plants started fruiting, I got some nice tomatoes comming thru. I have started to know little black speckles forming on the bottom of my tomatoes, and then they are turning bad and mushy, Can anyone suggest something for me to try? Also my Pumpin's,marrow's and butternut squash had nice big flowers, then the big flower heads are dying and snapping completly off the stalks, any help on this matter would be great, this is really starting to annoy me, They all have lived and grew nicely in my greenhouse, for last few months, Regards Richard - I have a small cold frame with some veggies in it. What I notice is that it has the appearance of high humidity, but the soil can still be relatively dry. As a result, it gets watered less than the outside garden. Not a solution, just a suggestion. Water - not enough and you're gonna die - too much and you're gonna die too! It's a balancing act. Wilson Ok Ladies and Gent's Thanks for all your replys, I have notced recently that my greenhouse is always soaking, so maybe a humidiy problem, how would I solve this? leave the door open all day? I recently wrapped bubble wrap around my greenhouse, (somebody said to stop direct rays burning leaves etc..) I dont know I am new to all this Nothing says "mold", like warm and damp. Give the greenhouse some ventillation during the day. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
All my edible's are dying
When I said total wilt I meant that plant leaves are wilted top to
bottom. Some wilting diseases will only show wilt starting at the base and working up and that's gradual and in the beginning responds a bit to watering. The one thing I haven't checked for is cut worm damage, because I always put sticks around the stem to prevent that, and I also have them mulched in a cone shape, so it didn't seem like that would be the problem. I haver over 20 tomatoes planted and only those two next to each other are showing this problem. There are many more next to them in the same row and one row beneath as well as other areas of the garden and they're not showing this problem. I looked up tomato diseases on the Internet but couldn't find any pictures of a plant with this total wilting which came on within about 24 hours. I will check them out later to see if somehow a cut worm got them. At this point, I hope it's that instead of some other disease that might get the rest of them! We haven't have a lot of rain this season; but we haven't had drought either. We probably get a good rain once a week or so and none of the tomatoes, which I planted early, have shown any sign of lack of water. It's probably been hotter than normal for these western NC mountains - lots of mid and high 80''s days, even a couple of 90 degree days the past two weeks. Regards, June |
All my edible's are dying
sometime in the recent past gonzo posted this:
OK, I don't run a greenhouse, but um, wrapping it in bubble wrap to prevent burning plants.. no. There are things for you greenies that are called sunshade, what they look like is a huge sheet of screened netting. Comes in different weights to reduce different amounts of sun. Take the bubble wrap off, it just ain't no good for ya. I don't see that that alone would cause all your grief, but it's a step in the right direction to put some sunshade over the greenhouse instead of it. Cheers I've used the black weed barrier material as a shade on the greenhouse too, when I've moved plants from in the house (poor light) into full sun. Otherwise the leaves will burn (turn white,) but that's usually temporary, but disconcerting none the less when your lush plant that was trying to scrounge up sunlight now has more than it can stand. Professionals used a lime white-wash to diffuse the light, but I think that's another issue. Certainly open it up to air. Also a bit of a fan will dry things and the movement will cause stalks to thicken. Good luck. -- Wilson N45 W67 |
All my edible's are dying
Don't know if you have the "17 year locusts" this year, but we do just
southwest of you. I've got a new planting of over 600 blueberry plants that are mostly destroyed. The locusts cut the stems to create a pocket for their eggs. I've seen them cutting everything from goldenrod to white oak. Good Luck, Steve "June" wrote in message ... When I said total wilt I meant that plant leaves are wilted top to bottom. Some wilting diseases will only show wilt starting at the base and working up and that's gradual and in the beginning responds a bit to watering. The one thing I haven't checked for is cut worm damage, because I always put sticks around the stem to prevent that, and I also have them mulched in a cone shape, so it didn't seem like that would be the problem. I haver over 20 tomatoes planted and only those two next to each other are showing this problem. There are many more next to them in the same row and one row beneath as well as other areas of the garden and they're not showing this problem. I looked up tomato diseases on the Internet but couldn't find any pictures of a plant with this total wilting which came on within about 24 hours. I will check them out later to see if somehow a cut worm got them. At this point, I hope it's that instead of some other disease that might get the rest of them! We haven't have a lot of rain this season; but we haven't had drought either. We probably get a good rain once a week or so and none of the tomatoes, which I planted early, have shown any sign of lack of water. It's probably been hotter than normal for these western NC mountains - lots of mid and high 80''s days, even a couple of 90 degree days the past two weeks. Regards, June |
All my edible's are dying
"phorbin" wrote in message ... In article 83da50b4-d4f4-4547-92f8- , says... On a wild thought, chemical attack? Could some animal have peed on them? Around here all such animals are in Parliament. Any of them been to visit? David |
All my edible's are dying
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"phorbin" wrote in message ... In article 83da50b4-d4f4-4547-92f8- , says... On a wild thought, chemical attack? Could some animal have peed on them? Around here all such animals are in Parliament. Any of them been to visit? ROTFL Not yet, We keep those animals in Ottawa much of the year. They'll be on the barbeque/garden circuit sometime in the next week or so. I don't know about NC though. |
All my edible's are dying
I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It
can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that. The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are right next to them, so far are fine. I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out, to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the soil that was causing these wilting diseases. Regards, June |
All my edible's are dying
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:02:06 -0700 (PDT), June
wrote: I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that. The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are right next to them, so far are fine. I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out, to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the soil that was causing these wilting diseases. Regards, June Possibly some sort of tunneling animal? I have one that is doing the same thing. I haven't pulled it up yet to see what is going on. I need to do that soon. |
All my edible's are dying
Do you water with a hose? Is it possible the tomatoes got the first blast
from a hose-full of water that had been sitting in the sun? That can easily get hot enough to wilt/kill plants, even when the weather is mild. -- Visit www.insectgraphics.com for all your insect gift needs "The Cook" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:02:06 -0700 (PDT), June wrote: I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that. The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are right next to them, so far are fine. I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out, to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the soil that was causing these wilting diseases. Regards, June Possibly some sort of tunneling animal? I have one that is doing the same thing. I haven't pulled it up yet to see what is going on. I need to do that soon. |
All my edible's are dying
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, June wrote: I checked those wilted tomatoes and there's no cut worm damage. It can't be chemical attack because I don't use chemicals and our house is in the middle of 11 acres with nothing near us that could do that. The tomatoes are in cages and growing in stone terraces that are not accessible to critters. One of the wilted tomatoes is a Big boy and the other one is Whopper. The heirlooms like Brandywine which are right next to them, so far are fine. I think there may be some kind of pathogen in the soil since I'm not having, nor have had any problems in any other areas, other than the terraces; and a lot of the extra soil in those terraces was brought in two years ago when the terraces were built. My plan is, in the fall when the current crops are harvested and the plant are pulled out, to wet down those areas and put down clear plastic and leave it down for several weeks and hope the heat will kill whatever it is in the soil that was causing these wilting diseases. Regards, June You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
All my edible's are dying
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, Billy wrote: You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation. -- Billy When I had fungal root rot along my fence line in my English Ivy, the local nursery sold me some soil sulphur, and some soil probiotics. Instructions were to scatter the sulphur and water it in to kill the fungus, then wait two weeks and water in the soil bacteria. It worked. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
All my edible's are dying
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Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation. -- Billy When I had fungal root rot along my fence line in my English Ivy, the local nursery sold me some soil sulphur, and some soil probiotics. Instructions were to scatter the sulphur and water it in to kill the fungus, then wait two weeks and water in the soil bacteria. It worked. If you read the PDFs from the Ag Extensions, you'll notice that nothing was said about soil sulphur, and probiotics. I presume that you took in a sample that was identified as fungal root rot. I'm glad it worked for you. How much did the treatment cost and how much surface area did you treat? What do you think of the OP's intention to solarize her soil in order to kill off her pest? I hope the yarrow tea helped. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
All my edible's are dying
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, Billy wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: You must know that that sounds too easy. If you have wilt, fungal or bacterial, it is there to stay for awhile, like a decade. If it is fungal you might be able to to grow resistant tomatoes. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publi...es/sp370-C.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/bacterial_wilt.pdf www.avrdc.org/pdf/tomato/fusarium.pdf In the meantime, you may consider crop rotation. -- Billy When I had fungal root rot along my fence line in my English Ivy, the local nursery sold me some soil sulphur, and some soil probiotics. Instructions were to scatter the sulphur and water it in to kill the fungus, then wait two weeks and water in the soil bacteria. It worked. If you read the PDFs from the Ag Extensions, you'll notice that nothing was said about soil sulphur, and probiotics. I presume that you took in a sample that was identified as fungal root rot. I took in a limp dying branch... So, yes more or less. I'm glad it worked for you. How much did the treatment cost and how much surface area did you treat? It was cheap. Under $20.00 and I treated about a 150 ft. fence line about 1 ft. on either side of the fence. I took advice and products from Gardenville. They are located about 5 blocks away. What do you think of the OP's intention to solarize her soil in order to kill off her pest? Could not hurt. The sun is a universal disinfectant. Theoretically, running water (as in streams) running under sunlight for 1 mile will help purify water. The fact that sulphur treatment kills fungus has come in handy for more than just soil. Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. Better than some of the OTC crap they sell for that that does not work. Garlic is VERY high in sulphur. Makes me wonder if a heavy garlic treatment for fungal root rot might work. I hope the yarrow tea helped. Yarrow is good for colds. :-) -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
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Omelet wrote: Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best. à ta santé -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
Growing medicinal foods (was All my edible's are dying)
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, Billy wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best. à ta santé No, that's for urinary tract infections, not yeast infections... I add cranberry juice to cocktails just because I like it. :-) Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods (was All my edible's are dying)
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Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best. à ta santé No, that's for urinary tract infections, not yeast infections... I add cranberry juice to cocktails just because I like it. :-) Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( Hey Om -- go look at: http://www.filareefarm.com/ Since you're down there in hot, old Texas, you need to grow garlic varieties that will thrive in your climate. The Filaree website explains the different types of garlic and which ones do well down south. There's at least one big, commercial seed garlic seller in Texas. You can probably find them on google. Jan |
Growing medicinal foods (was All my edible's are dying)
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Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best. à ta santé No, that's for urinary tract infections, not yeast infections... I must be getting old, I know that. I add cranberry juice to cocktails just because I like it. :-) Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. I think it would help to have an Italian boyfriend;-) Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. I knew about garlic for B.P. but not yeast infections. Odd though, I would have thought that garlic and fungi would have gotten along, yhey do in my kitchen :o) Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... Did you know that a thyme flower decoction is anti-bacterial and used as a gargle is good for sore throats? Sorry, we weren't talking nose and throats, were we? I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( I've already ordered mine for this fall. I'm using the shot-gun approach. I'm planting several types in different spots on my north facing hillside. Later and thanks for the catch. Thanks to Jan too for the garlic website http://www.filareefarm.com/ -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
Growing medicinal foods (was All my edible's are dying)
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Jan Flora wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best. à ta santé No, that's for urinary tract infections, not yeast infections... I add cranberry juice to cocktails just because I like it. :-) Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( Hey Om -- go look at: http://www.filareefarm.com/ Since you're down there in hot, old Texas, you need to grow garlic varieties that will thrive in your climate. The Filaree website explains the different types of garlic and which ones do well down south. There's at least one big, commercial seed garlic seller in Texas. You can probably find them on google. Jan Why thanks! :-) I was just trying to grow what I bought at the grocery store. I remove the outer covering from a head of garlic and set it in water until it starts to sprout, then separate the cloves and plant them. I always end up with a mild, onion-looking thing at the base... And they never bloom. I have a stand of wild onions and a HUGE patch of garlic chives that re-plant themselves every year! They do well. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods
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, Billy wrote: Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. I think it would help to have an Italian boyfriend;-) snicker Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. I knew about garlic for B.P. B.P.??? but not yeast infections. Odd though, I would have thought that garlic and fungi would have gotten along, they do in my kitchen :o) Heh! I refrigerate garlic in a basket in the 'frige. Onions are stored in a basket at room temp. Baskets are really good to keep stored veggies dry and slows mold growth. I keep old easter baskets (the cheap ones) and just cut the handles off. Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... Did you know that a thyme flower decoction is anti-bacterial and used as a gargle is good for sore throats? Sorry, we weren't talking nose and throats, were we? Sure! We are talking medicinal uses. :-) I have two different varieties of thyme in the herb garden so that's a good hint. Right now, regular use of milk thistle capsules seems to be drastically shortening the length and severity of head colds! Seriously. I'm considering growing it since it does well in this climate. I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( I've already ordered mine for this fall. I'm using the shot-gun approach. I'm planting several types in different spots on my north facing hillside. Later and thanks for the catch. Cheers! :-) Thanks to Jan too for the garlic website http://www.filareefarm.com/ -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods
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Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. I think it would help to have an Italian boyfriend;-) snicker Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. I knew about garlic for B.P. B.P.??? Blood pressure. but not yeast infections. Odd though, I would have thought that garlic and fungi would have gotten along, they do in my kitchen :o) Heh! I refrigerate garlic in a basket in the 'frige. Onions are stored in a basket at room temp. Baskets are really good to keep stored veggies dry and slows mold growth. We keep both in baskets and I have started planting those that sprout. I keep old easter baskets (the cheap ones) and just cut the handles off. Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... Did you know that a thyme flower decoction is anti-bacterial and used as a gargle is good for sore throats? Sorry, we weren't talking nose and throats, were we? Sure! We are talking medicinal uses. :-) I have two different varieties of thyme in the herb garden so that's a good hint. Right now, regular use of milk thistle capsules seems to be drastically shortening the length and severity of head colds! Seriously. I'm considering growing it since it does well in this climate. I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( I've already ordered mine for this fall. I'm using the shot-gun approach. I'm planting several types in different spots on my north facing hillside. Later and thanks for the catch. Cheers! :-) Thanks to Jan too for the garlic website http://www.filareefarm.com/ The lettuce garden has almost recovered from the raccoon who foraged in the mulch. I transplanted four valerians from their germination trays to larger pots. The potted passion fruit is four feet high and is starting to climb an oak tree. Tomorrow I'll transplant the skullcap baikal. -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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Omelet wrote: In article , Jan Flora wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: Garlic is useful for female yeast infections as well. I hear cranberry juice (not punch) is best. à ta santé No, that's for urinary tract infections, not yeast infections... I add cranberry juice to cocktails just because I like it. :-) Yogurt and vinegar douche is the old remedy for Yeast, but garlic works better. I've not been bothered by it for awhile but last time I did, pigging out on garlic actually worked. I also recommended it to my best friend last time she had a problem with it and donated 10 heads of garlic to the cause. Fortunately, she _likes_ garlic! It worked for her as well. Eaten in recipes, NOT made into a douche. Pardon for the semi-off-topic post, but one can grow garlic too. g Like other foods, it's very medicinal. Medicinal garden foods might make an interesting thread... I have trouble growing garlic. I'm probably not doing it right. Never been able to get it to "clove" for me, but onions did ok. They seem to like sandier soil. But, with the cost of water here, it's cheaper for me anymore to purchase most veggies instead of trying to grow them. :-( Hey Om -- go look at: http://www.filareefarm.com/ Since you're down there in hot, old Texas, you need to grow garlic varieties that will thrive in your climate. The Filaree website explains the different types of garlic and which ones do well down south. There's at least one big, commercial seed garlic seller in Texas. You can probably find them on google. Jan Why thanks! :-) I was just trying to grow what I bought at the grocery store. I remove the outer covering from a head of garlic and set it in water until it starts to sprout, then separate the cloves and plant them. I always end up with a mild, onion-looking thing at the base... And they never bloom. I have a stand of wild onions and a HUGE patch of garlic chives that re-plant themselves every year! They do well. First off, quit stripping the paper cover and pre-sprouting them. Just plant the individual bulbs. Don't break the clove up into bulbs until you're ready to plant. Use lots of compost. You're in Texas, so you're up to your eyeballs in bullshit down there -- shouldn't be hard to find some good composted cow manure. *smile* Okay, now go read the stuff on Filaree, figure out which "types" will thrive in your climate, then go hit the Seed Savers site and see if they sell what you want. They're way cheaper than Filaree. (Not to diss Filaree, but in this economy, we have to be frugal if we aren't rich.) Seed Savers won't tell you if they're hardnecks, softnecks, etc., so get variety names from Filaree and look for them by name at Seed Savers. Shipping from Filaree to you guys down there in the small states may be cheap(er). It's expensive as hell to get them to ship to me in Alaska, but I've done it and their stock is first rate. Some types of garlic store well (mostly the softnecks that will grow well down south) and some won't. Some are great for braiding into those picturesque garlic braids, which sell like crazy for lots of money at Farmers Markets, if you're so inclined. Different garlic varieties are like different wine varieties. Figure out which you like. Some are HOT. Some are mild with a long aftertaste. Some are great for roasting. You'll crack up when you read a real garlic nut's descriptions of the flavors. Long live the stinking rose : ) Jan PS: If you eat a lot of garlic all winter long, you won't get sick, because people with germs/colds/the flu won't get close enough to breath on you and share their germs. Works for me! |
Growing medicinal foods
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, Billy wrote: I knew about garlic for B.P. B.P.??? Blood pressure. Ah! Sorry. :-) Garlic is food for health in general. but not yeast infections. Odd though, I would have thought that garlic and fungi would have gotten along, they do in my kitchen :o) Heh! I refrigerate garlic in a basket in the 'frige. Onions are stored in a basket at room temp. Baskets are really good to keep stored veggies dry and slows mold growth. We keep both in baskets and I have started planting those that sprout. IOW, you don't use it up that quickly either. g It's not expensive, I just prefer to use granulated garlic for most stuff. It agrees with me better. Garlic will sprout in the 'frige too if left too long. The lettuce garden has almost recovered from the raccoon who foraged in the mulch. I transplanted four valerians from their germination trays to larger pots. The potted passion fruit is four feet high and is starting to climb an oak tree. Tomorrow I'll transplant the skullcap baikal. Neat! I have a passion vine too that is recovering from underwatering, and the Purple Cone Flower (Echinacea) has re-seeded itself now for 4 years in a row. Have not tried growing Valerian. I use the caps for a sleep aid sometimes. I'd like to try growing hops one of these years, but do not know the requirement. I also have a dead mimosa tree out front and am considering leaving the dead trunk in place and just removing the top, then "seeding" it with some kind of mushroom mycelia. Shitake would be my preference, but that's supposed to do best in Oak and I don't have any dead oak trees. I may just do Pearl Oyster since that's supposed to be one of the easiest to grow. I've managed to get it to fruit once in an unbleached toilet paper roll after innoculating the middle of the roll with some finely chopped stems. :-) I should probably e-mail fungi perfecti for advice. Turkey Tail mushroom is supposed to have anti-viral and anti-cancer properties made into a tea. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods and cold prevention
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Jan Flora wrote: I was just trying to grow what I bought at the grocery store. I remove the outer covering from a head of garlic and set it in water until it starts to sprout, then separate the cloves and plant them. I always end up with a mild, onion-looking thing at the base... And they never bloom. I have a stand of wild onions and a HUGE patch of garlic chives that re-plant themselves every year! They do well. First off, quit stripping the paper cover and pre-sprouting them. Just plant the individual bulbs. Don't break the clove up into bulbs until you're ready to plant. Use lots of compost. You're in Texas, so you're up to your eyeballs in bullshit down there -- shouldn't be hard to find some good composted cow manure. *smile* giggles True dat! Okay, now go read the stuff on Filaree, figure out which "types" will thrive in your climate, then go hit the Seed Savers site and see if they sell what you want. They're way cheaper than Filaree. (Not to diss Filaree, but in this economy, we have to be frugal if we aren't rich.) Absolootly. Might be fun to try one of the elephant varieties if I can get them to grow. Seed Savers won't tell you if they're hardnecks, softnecks, etc., so get variety names from Filaree and look for them by name at Seed Savers. Shipping from Filaree to you guys down there in the small states may be cheap(er). It's expensive as hell to get them to ship to me in Alaska, but I've done it and their stock is first rate. It's expensive to ship anything to Alaska. Are you greenhousing up there? What about growing indoors? Some types of garlic store well (mostly the softnecks that will grow well down south) and some won't. Some are great for braiding into those picturesque garlic braids, which sell like crazy for lots of money at Farmers Markets, if you're so inclined. Those are widely available south of the border for cheap. I had one for years by my front door, the cats finally tore it apart one day. Nearly every little shop in Nuevo Laredo has one by the door. Different garlic varieties are like different wine varieties. Figure out which you like. Some are HOT. Some are mild with a long aftertaste. Some are great for roasting. You'll crack up when you read a real garlic nut's descriptions of the flavors. Long live the stinking rose : ) lol Indeed! Jan PS: If you eat a lot of garlic all winter long, you won't get sick, because people with germs/colds/the flu won't get close enough to breath on you and share their germs. Works for me! I work nights. That helps me avoid a lot of it since there are not nearly as many people. Good handwashing practices will remove a LOT of exposure to the cold virus. Did you know that the majority of flu' and cold viruses are passed hand to eye? I learned that in our annual infection control inservice. I work in health care. :-) Thou shalt wash thy hands every time you come home from shopping! It's not paranoid to keep a container of hand disinfectant in the car and clean the steering wheel from time to time... Doorknobs and telephones at work get cleaned nightly. -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods
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Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: I knew about garlic for B.P. B.P.??? Blood pressure. Ah! Sorry. :-) Garlic is food for health in general. but not yeast infections. Odd though, I would have thought that garlic and fungi would have gotten along, they do in my kitchen :o) Heh! I refrigerate garlic in a basket in the 'frige. Onions are stored in a basket at room temp. Baskets are really good to keep stored veggies dry and slows mold growth. We keep both in baskets and I have started planting those that sprout. IOW, you don't use it up that quickly either. g It's not expensive, I just prefer to use granulated garlic for most stuff. It agrees with me better. Garlic will sprout in the 'frige too if left too long. The lettuce garden has almost recovered from the raccoon who foraged in the mulch. I transplanted four valerians from their germination trays to larger pots. The potted passion fruit is four feet high and is starting to climb an oak tree. Tomorrow I'll transplant the skullcap baikal. Neat! I have a passion vine too that is recovering from underwatering, and the Purple Cone Flower (Echinacea) has re-seeded itself now for 4 years in a row. Have not tried growing Valerian. I use the caps for a sleep aid sometimes. I'd like to try growing hops one of these years, but do not know the requirement. I also have a dead mimosa tree out front and am considering leaving the dead trunk in place and just removing the top, then "seeding" it with some kind of mushroom mycelia. Shitake would be my preference, but that's supposed to do best in Oak and I don't have any dead oak trees. I may just do Pearl Oyster since that's supposed to be one of the easiest to grow. I've managed to get it to fruit once in an unbleached toilet paper roll after innoculating the middle of the roll with some finely chopped stems. :-) I should probably e-mail fungi perfecti --- http://www.fungi.com/ I didn't know about them, thanks. for advice. Turkey Tail mushroom is supposed to have anti-viral and anti-cancer properties made into a tea. I thought you were a Kombucha fan. Still looking? What is your take on the effectiveness of Kombucha? -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
Growing medicinal foods
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, Billy wrote: I also have a dead mimosa tree out front and am considering leaving the dead trunk in place and just removing the top, then "seeding" it with some kind of mushroom mycelia. Shitake would be my preference, but that's supposed to do best in Oak and I don't have any dead oak trees. I may just do Pearl Oyster since that's supposed to be one of the easiest to grow. I've managed to get it to fruit once in an unbleached toilet paper roll after innoculating the middle of the roll with some finely chopped stems. :-) I should probably e-mail fungi perfecti --- http://www.fungi.com/ I didn't know about them, thanks. They are an awesome company. I've read some of Stammet's books. for advice. Turkey Tail mushroom is supposed to have anti-viral and anti-cancer properties made into a tea. I thought you were a Kombucha fan. Still looking? What is your take on the effectiveness of Kombucha? -- Billy Dad is the Kombucha grower and fan. They are not really a true "mushroom". IMHO the brew just provides a lot of vitamins and minerals. Sort of a tonic. I'm not convinced it's a panacea, but ymmv. Many people swear by it as it gives them energy. I think it's the B-vitamins it contains. :-) I'd rather take pills... -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods
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Omelet wrote: In article , Billy wrote: I also have a dead mimosa tree out front and am considering leaving the dead trunk in place and just removing the top, then "seeding" it with some kind of mushroom mycelia. Shitake would be my preference, but that's supposed to do best in Oak and I don't have any dead oak trees. I may just do Pearl Oyster since that's supposed to be one of the easiest to grow. I've managed to get it to fruit once in an unbleached toilet paper roll after innoculating the middle of the roll with some finely chopped stems. :-) I should probably e-mail fungi perfecti --- http://www.fungi.com/ I didn't know about them, thanks. They are an awesome company. I've read some of Stammet's books. for advice. Turkey Tail mushroom is supposed to have anti-viral and anti-cancer properties made into a tea. I thought you were a Kombucha fan. Still looking? What is your take on the effectiveness of Kombucha? -- Billy Dad is the Kombucha grower and fan. They are not really a true "mushroom". IMHO the brew just provides a lot of vitamins and minerals. Sort of a tonic. I'm not convinced it's a panacea, but ymmv. Many people swear by it as it gives them energy. I think it's the B-vitamins it contains. :-) I'd rather take pills... Ps, altho' that does not stop me from researching nutritional values of specific foods. It was one of the reasons I got interested in mushrooms. Low in fat and calories, high in fiber and dense in nutrients. I was specifically looking for a vitamin D source last week that did not involve fish oil. Turns out that dried Shitakes are a VERY rich source and I normally have them in the pantry anyway, so I powdered up a bunch of caps again and have increased it's use as a food additive. It adds a nice flavor to poultry, soups, etc. They are NOT high in Vitamin A like many fish oils are which is a plus. It's easy to overdose on A which will kill your liver big time. This from the FungiPerfecti website: Nutritional Value of Mushrooms "Many myths have been spread about mushrooms. One of the most inaccurate is that mushrooms have no nutritional value. To properly consider them for their nutritional benefits, they must be viewed from a dried weight perspective. And mushrooms give you maximum nutritional benefit only upon cooking. Mushrooms are relatively high in protein, averaging about 20% of their dried mass. Further they contribute a wide range of essential amino acids. Low in fat (between .3 and 2%) and high in fiber, mushrooms also provide several groups of vitamins, particularly thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, biotin, ascorbic acid and Vitamin D. For more information on the nutritional properties of mushrooms, Paul Stamets, founder of Fungi Perfecti, published an extensive study of 24 major nutrients in 16 mushroom species and varieties. See: Stamets, P., 2005. ³Notes on Nutritional Properties of Culinary-Medicinal Mushrooms², International Journal of Medicinal Mushrooms, vol. 7: 103110." -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods and cold prevention
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Omelet wrote: In article , Jan Flora wrote: [...] Okay, now go read the stuff on Filaree, figure out which "types" will thrive in your climate, then go hit the Seed Savers site and see if they sell what you want. They're way cheaper than Filaree. (Not to diss Filaree, but in this economy, we have to be frugal if we aren't rich.) Absolootly. Might be fun to try one of the elephant varieties if I can get them to grow. Nichols in Oregon is a great source of elephant garlic. They're really neat people. Google them and get on their mailing list. Seed Savers won't tell you if they're hardnecks, softnecks, etc., so get variety names from Filaree and look for them by name at Seed Savers. Shipping from Filaree to you guys down there in the small states may be cheap(er). It's expensive as hell to get them to ship to me in Alaska, but I've done it and their stock is first rate. It's expensive to ship anything to Alaska. Are you greenhousing up there? What about growing indoors? 'Maters, squash, cukes, everything tender goes in the greenhouses. Broccoli, cabbage, kale, peas all grow outside. BUT this year, we're still having killing frosts. It's never happened before this late, according to my SO who was born here in 1955. We had a killing frost last night. Ice on the windshield that he had to scrape. I told him that he gets up too early. If he'd sleep later, he wouldn't notice the ice. We're having the coldest spring/summer ever up here. We normally get 90-100 days growing season. These frosts are trashing everyone's gardens. And I'm worried as hell about the price of fuel trashing the national food distribution system. Alaska has two days worth of food on our grocery store shelves. [...] PS: If you eat a lot of garlic all winter long, you won't get sick, because people with germs/colds/the flu won't get close enough to breath on you and share their germs. Works for me! I work nights. That helps me avoid a lot of it since there are not nearly as many people. Good handwashing practices will remove a LOT of exposure to the cold virus. Did you know that the majority of flu' and cold viruses are passed hand to eye? I learned that in our annual infection control inservice. I work in health care. :-) Thou shalt wash thy hands every time you come home from shopping! It's not paranoid to keep a container of hand disinfectant in the car and clean the steering wheel from time to time... Doorknobs and telephones at work get cleaned nightly. I wash my hands so often that people think I have OCD. My mom was an RN. I can't afford the downtime to be sick. It never occurred to me to clean the steering wheel on my car. Thanks! I do the phone, computer keyboards, doorknobs, coffee pot, light switches, etc. all the time. I mostly stay at home on the ranch. The SO has to go to town every day to sit at the Old Timers Coffee Table and talk shit with the other old farts. He brings the germs home with him. ****es me off. When I fly down to our state capitol or to DC to talk to legislators, many of them have hand sanitizers on their desks or in their offices now. You can tell in Juneau, Alaska who the RN's are in the Lege. They all have sanitizers handy, because they have to shake hands with germy people all day long. (A staffer in Juneau told me that the Capital Building is just one big Petri dish -- everyone has the Capital Crud by mid-session every year. It's true.) Jan |
Growing medicinal foods and cold prevention
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Jan Flora wrote: Might be fun to try one of the elephant varieties if I can get them to grow. Nichols in Oregon is a great source of elephant garlic. They're really neat people. Google them and get on their mailing list. Danke! It's expensive to ship anything to Alaska. Are you greenhousing up there? What about growing indoors? 'Maters, squash, cukes, everything tender goes in the greenhouses. Broccoli, cabbage, kale, peas all grow outside. BUT this year, we're still having killing frosts. It's never happened before this late, according to my SO who was born here in 1955. We had a killing frost last night. Ice on the windshield that he had to scrape. I told him that he gets up too early. If he'd sleep later, he wouldn't notice the ice. We're having the coldest spring/summer ever up here. We normally get 90-100 days growing season. These frosts are trashing everyone's gardens. And I'm worried as hell about the price of fuel trashing the national food distribution system. Alaska has two days worth of food on our grocery store shelves. Stock up on canned goods. :-( Climate change seems to be causing a cooling trend. We could use more rain here tho' in the South. The mid west is getting it all. Thou shalt wash thy hands every time you come home from shopping! It's not paranoid to keep a container of hand disinfectant in the car and clean the steering wheel from time to time... Doorknobs and telephones at work get cleaned nightly. I wash my hands so often that people think I have OCD. My mom was an RN. I can't afford the downtime to be sick. Ditto. It never occurred to me to clean the steering wheel on my car. Thanks! Welcome. :-) I do the phone, computer keyboards, doorknobs, coffee pot, light switches, etc. all the time. It really does help. Dirty hands are the #1 cause of disease. They stress that at work constantly. I mostly stay at home on the ranch. The SO has to go to town every day to sit at the Old Timers Coffee Table and talk shit with the other old farts. He brings the germs home with him. ****es me off. Tell him to wash his hands and don't rub his eyes. g When I fly down to our state capitol or to DC to talk to legislators, many of them have hand sanitizers on their desks or in their offices now. You can tell in Juneau, Alaska who the RN's are in the Lege. They all have sanitizers handy, because they have to shake hands with germy people all day long. (A staffer in Juneau told me that the Capital Building is just one big Petri dish -- everyone has the Capital Crud by mid-session every year. It's true.) Jan I think the banks should all (literally) do money laundering. g -- Peace! Om "Human nature seems to be to control other people until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein |
Growing medicinal foods and cold prevention
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Jan Flora wrote: In article , Omelet wrote: In article , Jan Flora wrote: [...] Okay, now go read the stuff on Filaree, figure out which "types" will thrive in your climate, then go hit the Seed Savers site and see if they sell what you want. They're way cheaper than Filaree. (Not to diss Filaree, but in this economy, we have to be frugal if we aren't rich.) Absolootly. Might be fun to try one of the elephant varieties if I can get them to grow. Nichols in Oregon is a great source of elephant garlic. They're really neat people. Google them and get on their mailing list. Seed Savers won't tell you if they're hardnecks, softnecks, etc., so get variety names from Filaree and look for them by name at Seed Savers. Shipping from Filaree to you guys down there in the small states may be cheap(er). It's expensive as hell to get them to ship to me in Alaska, but I've done it and their stock is first rate. It's expensive to ship anything to Alaska. Are you greenhousing up there? What about growing indoors? 'Maters, squash, cukes, everything tender goes in the greenhouses. Broccoli, cabbage, kale, peas all grow outside. BUT this year, we're still having killing frosts. It's never happened before this late, according to my SO who was born here in 1955. We had a killing frost last night. Ice on the windshield that he had to scrape. I told him that he gets up too early. If he'd sleep later, he wouldn't notice the ice. We're having the coldest spring/summer ever up here. We normally get 90-100 days growing season. These frosts are trashing everyone's gardens. And I'm worried as hell about the price of fuel trashing the national food distribution system. Alaska has two days worth of food on our grocery store shelves. [...] PS: If you eat a lot of garlic all winter long, you won't get sick, because people with germs/colds/the flu won't get close enough to breath on you and share their germs. Works for me! I work nights. That helps me avoid a lot of it since there are not nearly as many people. Good handwashing practices will remove a LOT of exposure to the cold virus. Did you know that the majority of flu' and cold viruses are passed hand to eye? I learned that in our annual infection control inservice. I work in health care. :-) Thou shalt wash thy hands every time you come home from shopping! It's not paranoid to keep a container of hand disinfectant in the car and clean the steering wheel from time to time... Doorknobs and telephones at work get cleaned nightly. I wash my hands so often that people think I have OCD. My mom was an RN. I can't afford the downtime to be sick. It never occurred to me to clean the steering wheel on my car. Thanks! I do the phone, computer keyboards, doorknobs, coffee pot, light switches, etc. all the time. I mostly stay at home on the ranch. The SO has to go to town every day to sit at the Old Timers Coffee Table and talk shit with the other old farts. Born 1955 = 53 years old, "other old farts"? Your SO isn't even out of testosterone madness yet, and you call him an old fart? Dumb, stupid, inconsiderate maybe, old?, no way. He's still a freakin' kid. He brings the germs home with him. ****es me off. When I fly down to our state capitol or to DC to talk to legislators, many of them have hand sanitizers on their desks or in their offices now. You can tell in Juneau, Alaska who the RN's are in the Lege. They all have sanitizers handy, because they have to shake hands with germy people all day long. (A staffer in Juneau told me that the Capital Building is just one big Petri dish -- everyone has the Capital Crud by mid-session every year. It's true.) Jan -- Billy Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo...eature=related |
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