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In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
news
In article ,
"Tonia Fischer" wrote:

Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to
keep
them
from cominig back? I don't really want to use any manufactured
insecticides. Is there something else I can do?

TIA
Tonia

BT spray. It's organic.

Aren't there different kinds for different worms?

Not from what I've read about it. BT is supposed to kill ALL larval
insect forms. There are water dunks to control baby mosquitos even.
--
Peace! Om

Better than control them, they die! The mosquito dunks (with a bacteria
in them that is way too long for me to want to type here) are eaten by the
mosquito larvae which kills them. I use them in my fish pond; they work
beautifully. The water is supposed to be safe for all other life,
insects, animals and plants. I have an abundance of young dragonflies
(but no mosquitos) so it must be true. (Also lots of lilies and various
other pond "greenery" some of which isn't welcome.)

Once a month and no new skeeters here though I welcome all existing
mosquitos to my pond to do their thing. My little bit in "the buck stops
here." g

If the dunks are put in water and the water dries up before the 30-day
life is up, apparently, they reactivate when there is water again. I
cannot address that since there is always water in the pond. I do wonder,
however, why they are not being used in all those swimming pools in
abandoned foreclosed homes they talk about being such a problem on the
news. I'd sure invest in a package and toss them in the pool next door if
there were one there. I drop a quarter of one in each of our bubble basins
on the street, wonderful mosquito brooding pools which are courtesy of our
city fathers of yesteryear.

Glenna

In article fc.003d0941023e05763b9aca00f732e589.23e0581@pmug. org,
(Glenna Rose) wrote:

writes:
In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
news In article ,
"Tonia Fischer" wrote:

Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to
keep
them
from cominig back? I don't really want to use any manufactured
insecticides. Is there something else I can do?

TIA
Tonia

BT spray. It's organic.

Aren't there different kinds for different worms?

Not from what I've read about it. BT is supposed to kill ALL larval
insect forms. There are water dunks to control baby mosquitos even.
--
Peace! Om

Better than control them, they die! The mosquito dunks (with a bacteria
in them that is way too long for me to want to type here) are eaten by the
mosquito larvae which kills them. I use them in my fish pond; they work
beautifully. The water is supposed to be safe for all other life,
insects, animals and plants. I have an abundance of young dragonflies
(but no mosquitos) so it must be true. (Also lots of lilies and various
other pond "greenery" some of which isn't welcome.)

Once a month and no new skeeters here though I welcome all existing
mosquitos to my pond to do their thing. My little bit in "the buck stops
here." g

If the dunks are put in water and the water dries up before the 30-day
life is up, apparently, they reactivate when there is water again. I
cannot address that since there is always water in the pond. I do wonder,
however, why they are not being used in all those swimming pools in
abandoned foreclosed homes they talk about being such a problem on the
news. I'd sure invest in a package and toss them in the pool next door if
there were one there. I drop a quarter of one in each of our bubble basins
on the street, wonderful mosquito brooding pools which are courtesy of our
city fathers of yesteryear.

Glenna

Nice. :-) Thanks!
--
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein

"Glenna Rose" wrote in message
news:fc.003d0941023e05763b9aca00f732e589.23e0581@p mug.org...
writes:
In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
news In article ,
"Tonia Fischer" wrote:

Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to
keep
them
from cominig back? I don't really want to use any manufactured
insecticides. Is there something else I can do?

TIA
Tonia

BT spray. It's organic.

I have Thuricide Concentrate. The label say it is .8% bt and 99.2% inert
ingredients. It has a warning "Hazards to humans and domestic animals". So,
how is that "organic"?

"Rick" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:03:49 GMT, "JC"
wrote:


"Glenna Rose" wrote in message
news:fc.003d0941023e05763b9aca00f732e589.23e0581 @pmug.org...
writes:
In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
news In article ,
"Tonia Fischer" wrote:

Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to
keep
them
from cominig back? I don't really want to use any manufactured
insecticides. Is there something else I can do?

TIA
Tonia

BT spray. It's organic.

I have Thuricide Concentrate. The label say it is .8% bt and 99.2% inert
ingredients. It has a warning "Hazards to humans and domestic animals".
So,
how is that "organic"?


Lots of "organic" products are very toxic so surely this does not come
as a surprise. Label instructions should be followed whenever using
chemicals (whether synthetic or "organic)

BT itself should not be inhaled due to very slight risk factors
(allergy etc.), but the bacteria are not harmful under most
circumstances. The hazard warning is probably because petroleum
distillates are in the inert ingredients.

So, is it permissable for use in Certified Organic produce?

"Rick" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:02:37 GMT, "JC"
wrote:


"Rick" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:03:49 GMT, "JC"
wrote:


"Glenna Rose" wrote in message
news:fc.003d0941023e05763b9aca00f732e589.23e05 ...
writes:
In article ,
"Marie Dodge" wrote:

"Omelet" wrote in message
news In article ,
"Tonia Fischer" wrote:

Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to
keep
them
from cominig back? I don't really want to use any manufactured
insecticides. Is there something else I can do?

TIA
Tonia

BT spray. It's organic.

I have Thuricide Concentrate. The label say it is .8% bt and 99.2% inert
ingredients. It has a warning "Hazards to humans and domestic animals".
So,
how is that "organic"?


Lots of "organic" products are very toxic so surely this does not come
as a surprise. Label instructions should be followed whenever using
chemicals (whether synthetic or "organic)

BT itself should not be inhaled due to very slight risk factors
(allergy etc.), but the bacteria are not harmful under most
circumstances. The hazard warning is probably because petroleum
distillates are in the inert ingredients.

So, is it permissable for use in Certified Organic produce?

BT certainly is. It can be used as a dust, or mixed with water and
sprayed. I don't know about mixes that contain petroleum distillates,
but I would think probably not.

Thanks, I guess I need to get some other form of BT. I've never opened this
bottle because I didn't think it would pass muster.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:59:49 GMT, Rick wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:03:49 GMT, "JC"
wrote:


[...]

I have Thuricide Concentrate. The label say it is .8% bt and 99.2% inert
ingredients. It has a warning "Hazards to humans and domestic animals". So,
how is that "organic"?


Lots of "organic" products are very toxic so surely this does not come
as a surprise. Label instructions should be followed whenever using
chemicals (whether synthetic or "organic)

BT itself should not be inhaled due to very slight risk factors
(allergy etc.), but the bacteria are not harmful under most
circumstances. The hazard warning is probably because petroleum
distillates are in the inert ingredients.

Given that the bacillus delivery consists of living spores, I very
much doubt that the "inert ingredients" are a petroleum distillate. I
would bet on water+spreader/sticker (i.e. soap) The warnings are
likely the result of legal expeience with folks who are too careless
to keep the material away from children or simply the best way to tell
forlks not to drink/eat it.

In the case of the dry forms, the mixture often contain fuller's or
diatomaceious earth, both of which are irritating to the lungs if
inhaled.

And yes, things like nicotine, strychnine, atropine and digitalis are
quite "organic" in both the chemical and the agricultural senses, and
also quite toxic.