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Charlie wrote in message news On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:20:00 -0700, "gunner" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article ss, "gunner" wrote: "Billy" wrote in message ... In article ss, "gunner" wrote: snipped I think you should talk to your Primary Care about tapering off the Lithium. There are better class of drugs these days for your condition. Hopefully one of them can balance your mood swings and attention span out a bit better. With the proper care and counseling you should make a full recovery. I'm serious when I say good luck with that Billy. Oh very good, the meds insult (always very funny and insightful), right before somehow working in a Nazi reference. Oh wait, so sorry, I did......Godwin's Law invoked. Charlie So YOU can make sense out of his rambling BS and the stupid wiki links or you just a fan of his? Regardless that was rich Charlie , I will try to work that one in the next time. I'm sure there will be more BS coming out of eco fringe element . It almost is like an OCD. |
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Charlie wrote in message ... On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:48:20 -0500, Charlie wrote: Seriously, Gunny...your insults are juvenile, (along with those of the rest of the people in this thread who made similar pejorative remarks about people with whom they disagree and don't understand, people who may not always play well with the rest of you kids) with your references to mental illnesses and meds and loons and such. I'm sorry, I said this thread when I meant to indicate the other group and that thread in which you and bob and kate and mic were holding forth. You can attribute this oversight, or mistake, to lack of medication and ability to clarify thoughts, if you choose, Gunny. Charlie Charlie, I aint no Gunny. I 'm a Gunner, a Warrant Officer. I was an E7 Promotable (9 years) when I was appointed, then commissioned RA 6 months later. Army also, but I was adopted because of so many joint assignments. BTW, Dr of sorts... no! but I do understand more than a bit of MH issues. FWIW I am a licensed counselor in WA State, well for the next month anyway, getting too expensive to stay current when you are doing free work. I have been the Court Appointed Guardian for 3 MH persons so far and as an advocate working issues for a few others over the years, I have been an advocate working for the last year an a half on a host of issues ranging from the IRS, INS, The State of CA, the Federal Government, Medicare/Medicaid and 3 Insurance companies for this one person. as well as dealing with 5 doctors. She is Bi Polar since teens. last year she went down that road and I didn't think she was coming back this time. Was talking to the IRS for a couple of hours just Yesterday AM on her issues. I am not the Dr guy one needs, I 'm the guy that plowed through the bureaucracy and get stuff done my friend so they can get to the Dr guy. As you can perhaps sense, I don't win a lot of brownie points for style, but I get a job done in record time. So you may feel that I am insensitive,.... I do not..., may not be considered PC, but a far cry from being insensitive to the plight of other. I do apologize to you if you are afflicted and felt dissed. That you came to his defense, good on you so I will tell you first, I am going to break up with him, he is getting way too needy and honestly, I think he is seeing another NG. Who is Kaiser? mein Fuhrer? Are you talking growing Meds? as in Humbolt Co, or the other holistic ayurveda thing such as for Diabetes? Regardless, Use caution with the Shaman craft. |
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As far as defending Billy, and Bill, he/they are capable of that themselves and need not my defense. What I will do is stand shoulder to shoulder with them and throw rock. No one is on Bill's ass, he did help Martin, kinda. This is all Billy's doing. Like I said, good you show your Bud some support and I would like to believe you really standup for the underdog. I see no one did for Martin ( florabloom) Standing silent it not standing up, Charlie and you know that. Your man has a CS Bully personality. Billy ain't figured this one out as yet. This is childish play, you bet, but has he answered the question, Of course not, because he cannot. it is a lie and he is weasling on it. Yet this is all been for Nilly Billy's chicken shit attack he pulled on Florabloom. He lied and then attacked an innocent. You stand shoulder to shoulder to that? Now he is caught up in it. He coulda got away with his pathological lying, hell, a few of his "citations" he googles are worth reading and he has got some folks believing his BS or too scared to say otherwise, don't know which one, don't care but to launch into a diatribe such as he did and attack a FNG for asking a question? naaa. No man gets to do that without some consequence. Florabloom played nice and he didn't get ANY support from this group. You can't give a pass on this one Charlie and mean what you said about being a advocate. Stand in,..... stand down......... all the same to me Charlie. |
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In article , Charlie wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:35:06 -0700, "gunner" wrote: As far as defending Billy, and Bill, he/they are capable of that themselves and need not my defense. What I will do is stand shoulder to shoulder with them and throw rock. You pick and choose and selectively delete most of the reply to continue your argument with Billy. My reply was to clarify things between us, not necessarily to further your argument with Billy. No one is on Bill's ass, he did help Martin, kinda. Not so. You aren't on Bill's ass, but not so. I already pointed to references in the other group. Big picture, Gunner, big picture. You are a big picture guy, aren't you? This is all Billy's doing. Like I said, good you show your Bud some support and I would like to believe you really standup for the underdog. "I would like to believe that you really standup for the underdog" ? There you go again with your condescension and insinuating that I lie and twist the meaning and application of advocacy. I would like to believe that you are not condescending, demeaning and more arrogant then I, but I'm having trouble with that, Gunner. I see no one did for Martin ( florabloom) Standing silent it not standing up, Charlie and you know that. Your man has a CS Bully personality. Let's not demean Billy nor I by calling him "my man", or making yourself look like some kind of antediluvian. Whose "man" are you? Shall I speculate upon this? Shall we comment upon your personality? Or mine? Again, let's not use me to further your problem with Billy. Standing silent it not standing up, Charlie and you know that. Really? And for whom should we stand up? And against whom should we stand when we believe a horrendous wrong has been committed? And against whom do we throw rock? And whose convictions and beliefs are we to accept, or have shoved down our throats or up our butts in order to stand up for the right people? Do we really want to go there, Gunner? Should we go into the role of America and the death and misery it has dealt to so many innocents and the roles which each of us played in that death-dealing and misery for so many decades? Shall we go into the the fact that Our Constituton has been shredded and what exactly are those who took The Oath to Defend going to do about this? Do you want to encourage all this standing up, for which those of us who do "stand up" here are soundly criticized for being OT?. Makes me no nevermind, I'm ready to go anytime. Billy ain't figured this one out as yet. This is childish play, you bet, but has he answered the question, Of course not, because he cannot. it is a lie and he is weasling on it. Of course this baited game of yours is childish play, yet you've opened the gate for more serious play. You've neglected to address your eco lunatic fringe remarks as of yet, more denigration of those who believe differently than you. 'Twas ever thus. Yet this is all been for Nilly Billy's chicken shit attack he pulled on Florabloom. He lied and then attacked an innocent. You stand shoulder to shoulder to that? Why must you persist in using belittling terms/name-calling? BTW, you want to talk about BIG lying and BIG attacking innocents and BIG death and horror? Do you support that of which I insinuate? You ignore, or choose not to understand, that for which I stand shoulder to shoulder with Billy, and you continue to frame your replies to suit your needs and try to put words in my mouth. Chickenshit attacks? New here, aren't you? I don't see you defending people from attacks by shel and his ilk. So let's not be giving me the rundown and lessons. Now he is caught up in it. He coulda got away with his pathological lying, hell, a few of his "citations" he googles are worth reading and he has got some folks believing his BS or too scared to say otherwise, don't know which one, don't care but to launch into a diatribe such as he did and attack a FNG for asking a question? naaa. No man gets to do that without some consequence. Really? That is bullshit and gets into areas that lie outside the scope of the supposed discussion of this newsgroup, discussions for which we are regularly chastised. BTW, ifn's ya don't care, why ya' be speculating and diagnosing Billy so often, Hmm? Florabloom played nice and he didn't get ANY support from this group. Yeah, like this is is really important life stuff. You chose to take it to a higher level. And....good on ya' for chastising all the rest of the posters here that aren't standup folk like yourself. Lot's of folk around the world play nice and get napalmed and droned for it. You can't give a pass on this one Charlie and mean what you said about being a advocate. Can't I? That is a BS statement and you know it. Must I advocate on the behalf of every downtrodden and ****ed-over individual of whom I am aware or whom I am indicated? I stated that I advocate for those that are unable and/or unwilling to advocate for themselves....and you know damn well I meant, so let's not distort it. Life stuff, not bullshit Usenet slights and slurs and all that happy horseshit. Again, you are opening a can of shit stew into which I am not going to go into any further with you. Stand in,..... stand down......... all the same to me Charlie. Only two options, Boss? ......... all the same to me Gunner. Charlie The problem is Charlie is that you're being real, and gunnie is just gamin'. If you presented him with 6 megapixel reality, he would just say,"Who you gonna beleive, me, or your own lyin' eyes". He's like the Black Knight from Monty Python's "Holy Grail". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno He really isn't worth your time, Charlie. You can't go after every dog that barks at you. He doesn't know the English language. He doesn't know how to frame an argument. When presented with overwhelming evidence from two internationally recognized experts, first he says he'll prove them wrong, then he realizes the task that he has set for himself, and, instead, wants you to re-invent the wheel. And when backed into a corner he moves the goal posts, equivocates, and obfuscates. The only thing that he has going for him is the good will of the people he argues with. He is obviously a self made loner. **** on him. And will you come back to the garden, Charlie? The cabbages miss you;O) -- - Billy There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Will Rogers http://www.map-uk.org/regions/opt/news/view/-/id/348/ http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn |
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sometime in the recent past Billy posted this:
In article , Charlie wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:35:06 -0700, "gunner" wrote: As far as defending Billy, and Bill, he/they are capable of that themselves and need not my defense. What I will do is stand shoulder to shoulder with them and throw rock. You pick and choose and selectively delete most of the reply to continue your argument with Billy. My reply was to clarify things between us, not necessarily to further your argument with Billy. No one is on Bill's ass, he did help Martin, kinda. Not so. You aren't on Bill's ass, but not so. I already pointed to references in the other group. Big picture, Gunner, big picture. You are a big picture guy, aren't you? This is all Billy's doing. Like I said, good you show your Bud some support and I would like to believe you really standup for the underdog. "I would like to believe that you really standup for the underdog" ? There you go again with your condescension and insinuating that I lie and twist the meaning and application of advocacy. I would like to believe that you are not condescending, demeaning and more arrogant then I, but I'm having trouble with that, Gunner. I see no one did for Martin ( florabloom) Standing silent it not standing up, Charlie and you know that. Your man has a CS Bully personality. Let's not demean Billy nor I by calling him "my man", or making yourself look like some kind of antediluvian. Whose "man" are you? Shall I speculate upon this? Shall we comment upon your personality? Or mine? Again, let's not use me to further your problem with Billy. Standing silent it not standing up, Charlie and you know that. Really? And for whom should we stand up? And against whom should we stand when we believe a horrendous wrong has been committed? And against whom do we throw rock? And whose convictions and beliefs are we to accept, or have shoved down our throats or up our butts in order to stand up for the right people? Do we really want to go there, Gunner? Should we go into the role of America and the death and misery it has dealt to so many innocents and the roles which each of us played in that death-dealing and misery for so many decades? Shall we go into the the fact that Our Constituton has been shredded and what exactly are those who took The Oath to Defend going to do about this? Do you want to encourage all this standing up, for which those of us who do "stand up" here are soundly criticized for being OT?. Makes me no nevermind, I'm ready to go anytime. Billy ain't figured this one out as yet. This is childish play, you bet, but has he answered the question, Of course not, because he cannot. it is a lie and he is weasling on it. Of course this baited game of yours is childish play, yet you've opened the gate for more serious play. You've neglected to address your eco lunatic fringe remarks as of yet, more denigration of those who believe differently than you. 'Twas ever thus. Yet this is all been for Nilly Billy's chicken shit attack he pulled on Florabloom. He lied and then attacked an innocent. You stand shoulder to shoulder to that? Why must you persist in using belittling terms/name-calling? BTW, you want to talk about BIG lying and BIG attacking innocents and BIG death and horror? Do you support that of which I insinuate? You ignore, or choose not to understand, that for which I stand shoulder to shoulder with Billy, and you continue to frame your replies to suit your needs and try to put words in my mouth. Chickenshit attacks? New here, aren't you? I don't see you defending people from attacks by shel and his ilk. So let's not be giving me the rundown and lessons. Now he is caught up in it. He coulda got away with his pathological lying, hell, a few of his "citations" he googles are worth reading and he has got some folks believing his BS or too scared to say otherwise, don't know which one, don't care but to launch into a diatribe such as he did and attack a FNG for asking a question? naaa. No man gets to do that without some consequence. Really? That is bullshit and gets into areas that lie outside the scope of the supposed discussion of this newsgroup, discussions for which we are regularly chastised. BTW, ifn's ya don't care, why ya' be speculating and diagnosing Billy so often, Hmm? Florabloom played nice and he didn't get ANY support from this group. Yeah, like this is is really important life stuff. You chose to take it to a higher level. And....good on ya' for chastising all the rest of the posters here that aren't standup folk like yourself. Lot's of folk around the world play nice and get napalmed and droned for it. You can't give a pass on this one Charlie and mean what you said about being a advocate. Can't I? That is a BS statement and you know it. Must I advocate on the behalf of every downtrodden and ****ed-over individual of whom I am aware or whom I am indicated? I stated that I advocate for those that are unable and/or unwilling to advocate for themselves....and you know damn well I meant, so let's not distort it. Life stuff, not bullshit Usenet slights and slurs and all that happy horseshit. Again, you are opening a can of shit stew into which I am not going to go into any further with you. Stand in,..... stand down......... all the same to me Charlie. Only two options, Boss? ......... all the same to me Gunner. Charlie The problem is Charlie is that you're being real, and gunnie is just gamin'. If you presented him with 6 megapixel reality, he would just say,"Who you gonna beleive, me, or your own lyin' eyes". He's like the Black Knight from Monty Python's "Holy Grail". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno He really isn't worth your time, Charlie. You can't go after every dog that barks at you. He doesn't know the English language. He doesn't know how to frame an argument. When presented with overwhelming evidence from two internationally recognized experts, first he says he'll prove them wrong, then he realizes the task that he has set for himself, and, instead, wants you to re-invent the wheel. And when backed into a corner he moves the goal posts, equivocates, and obfuscates. The only thing that he has going for him is the good will of the people he argues with. He is obviously a self made loner. **** on him. But as my grandfather used to say, "Never get in a ****ing contest with a skunk." And will you come back to the garden, Charlie? The cabbages miss you;O) -- Wilson N44º39" W67º12" |
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Wilson wrote: But as my grandfather used to say, "Never get in a ****ing contest with a skunk." But if you do, **** with the wind, not into it;O) -- - Billy There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Will Rogers http://www.map-uk.org/regions/opt/news/view/-/id/348/ http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn |
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"Billy" wrote in message ... In article , Wilson wrote: But as my grandfather used to say, "Never get in a ****ing contest with a skunk." But if you do, **** with the wind, not into it;O) -- or wrestle with a group of pigs |
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Not responding to anyone in particular in this "debate"\but
googling Chemical fertilizer effects on soil microbes brought a lot of interesting stuff (good scientific word: stuff) For great general information ( and there is a LOT of info he www.answers.com/topic/fertilizer I didn't read much of the blog/opinion sites. There is a great deal of study being done in China. I found these of interest: www.agnet.org/library/tb/174/ (Combined use of Chemical and Organic Fertilizer and/or Biofertilizer) also: http://www.organiclandcare.org/educa...ertilizers.pdf Happy researching Emilie] NorCal |
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