In article ss,
"gunner" wrote:

"Wilson" wrote in message
...
sometime in the recent past gunner posted this:
and Wilson retorted with :
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,But since we do not know what dictionary you used, as my old
instructor
liked to say, "it don't count for a hill of beans" .


Okay. I'll nibble a bit more, but I am amazed at the quantity of points
you're willing to throw at a small point. For the record, in this
instance, 'my dictionary' was
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=citations. However, if I go to my
hard copy Websters Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary, copyright 1988, pg.
243, 'ci-ta-tion 2 a: an act of quoting, b: excerpt, quote.'

My point exactly Mr. Wilson, a citation is a quote, not a reference. You
cite facts, events, etc, in a writing but If you are quoting a paper or a
book, you don't need to be writing , you are plagiarizing,
Good god man, you must be dummer than dirt.
cite |s?t|
verb [ trans. ] (often be cited)
1 quote (a passage, book, or author) as evidence for or justification of
an argument or statement, esp. in a scholarly work.
€ mention as an example : medics have been cited as a key example of a
modern breed of technical expert.
€ Law adduce a former tried case as a guide to deciding a comparable
case or in support of an argument.

So says the dictionary that came with my Mac.

or
(n) citation, cite, acknowledgment, credit, reference, mention,
quotation (a short note recognizing a source of information or of a
quoted passage)
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=cite

Do you not understand English, gunny? What is your native tongue?

Good enough for me. Your argument attempts to draw the observers
attention to the minutiae so that you don't have to deal with the facts.
If you are to impress me, then try to at least do a bit of spell checking.
My spell checkers just about crapped it's pants on this post alone.

ahh this was a bit confusing at first, MS OS yes? yea it doesn't like
colloquialism or street slang. I'm not changing except when I am writing for
a professinal audience
Yeah, they wouldn't let you get away with that crap.
but if that is all ya got I am good with that,
Well, I guess you'll shortly be speaking to yourself then gunny.
Mr. Wilson!


The rest of your argument is more than I want to get into. It was your nit
picking that made me rise to your bait. You enjoy to much listening to
yourself, so I leave you to your pleasure.

Suffice it to say, you ain"t got nothing of substance?
Good. I have always found when you put your nose into a fight that wasn't
yours, regardless of intentions, you have a good chance of getting it
smacked.
Brave words, gunny, but just words. Wilson simply sees what the rest of
us see, a clever, self absorbed, narcissistic, bag of wind (gave you the
benefit of the doubt there).
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

OMG, you buffoons can't even get an insult right! Ya confused the sensory
basics i.e. instead of "you enjoy listening to your self ...., You could
say "I enjoy reading what I wrote" but that doesn't have the same effect
does it, cuz ya should be proof reading what crap you both are writing.
kinda like Billy's "citations".

Back OT , I can discount your author, Lowenfels, the one with the "soil
foodweb" . Like all your "citations" to date, this is just conjecture, he
lists no studies or research papers to show mineral salts kill micro
organisms. His hook is the "soil foodweb" banner which is hyping the ACCTs.
.. Like selling bibles at a Billy Graham crusade.

Billy, I heard you graduated the 8th Grade twice so you should understand
this; I don't want to be your book reviewer and I don't want anecdotal
hyper BS obfucating what you stated . I want to see some valid scientific
papers/research showing studies/ tests on how your statement mineral salts
kill micro organism is true. I want to see the start, the test methods and
the results which should be replicable. I don't want post hoc BS or the
argument from authority. If one of your "citations" knows it to be true,
then there is a study/paper on it, otherwise it is an unsubstantiated
opinion.

Stop your habit of throwing out a lot of BS and stupid personal attacks to
cover your propaganda. Now if you will excuse me, I have more important
things to do, you once again cut into my allotted research time with your
fantasy theories. Show me or shut up!

In article ss,
"gunner" wrote:

OMG, you buffoons can't even get an insult right! Ya confused the sensory
basics i.e. instead of "you enjoy listening to your self ...., You could
say "I enjoy reading what I wrote" but that doesn't have the same effect
does it, cuz ya should be proof reading what crap you both are writing.
kinda like Billy's "citations".

Back OT , I can discount your author, Lowenfels, the one with the "soil
foodweb" . Like all your "citations" to date, this is just conjecture, he
lists no studies or research papers to show mineral salts kill micro
organisms. His hook is the "soil foodweb" banner which is hyping the ACCTs.
. Like selling bibles at a Billy Graham crusade.

Billy, I heard you graduated the 8th Grade twice so you should understand
this; I don't want to be your book reviewer and I don't want anecdotal
hyper BS obfucating what you stated . I want to see some valid scientific
papers/research showing studies/ tests on how your statement mineral salts
kill micro organism is true. I want to see the start, the test methods and
the results which should be replicable. I don't want post hoc BS or the
argument from authority. If one of your "citations" knows it to be true,
then there is a study/paper on it, otherwise it is an unsubstantiated
opinion.

Stop your habit of throwing out a lot of BS and stupid personal attacks to
cover your propaganda. Now if you will excuse me, I have more important
things to do, you once again cut into my allotted research time with your
fantasy theories. Show me or shut up!

Couldn't figure it out, or getting lazy? If two authorities aren't
enough, you won't open your eyes to see what you don't want to see.
You don't like my authorities? What have you got?
Never mind. We have more important things to do, than give you a chance
to see your name in lights.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

Gunner challenges:

Billy, I heard you graduated the 8th Grade twice so you should understand
this; I don't want to be your book reviewer and I don't want anecdotal
hyper BS obfuscating what you stated . I want to see some valid scientific
papers/research showing studies/ tests on how your statement mineral salts
kill micro organism is true. I want to see the start, the test methods and
the results which should be replicable. I don't want post hoc BS or the
argument from authority. If one of your "citations" knows it to be true,
then there is a study/paper on it, otherwise it is an unsubstantiated
opinion.

Billy again pussyfoots, counters with even more BS:

Couldn't figure it out, or getting lazy? If two authorities aren't
enough, you won't open your eyes to see what you don't want to see.
You don't like my authorities? What have you got?
Never mind. We have more important things to do,.........

WE? Are you in one of your Sybil personality modes again?

than give you a chance
to see your name in lights.

Once again your definition of an authority is BS ( scream louder, I'm on the
Internet) . Unless you can give a valid reference to a scientific paper or
some such research that one of your "citations" has actually accomplished or
perhaps has knowledge of .....you make a false statement. It is certainly
not out of the character for you to do that, you show a history of making up
facts as you preach. When that doesn't seem to work, you attack ( which is
more of your wussy Internet persona).

I am sure your first reference was a very good lawyer ( soil food web??? do
check out where Dr. Ingram is working these days) and I'm sure some the
second might be some fine master gardener. I have not read the latter
because as I said, I am not going to be your book reviewer. You
procrastinate again, son. We both know the reason. Regardless, you still
cannot back up your lie(s) and you have been played into saying it so much,
you own this one. Mineral salts do not kill micro organisms any more than
manures do. You cannot justify this lie, no matter how hard you try nor
how much you squawk.

Go back to your pretend Google book of the month review club and play up to
your fan base. Seems they buy into your BS.

Gunner
You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some
of the time ... then there is Billy... who just hasn't got a clue.

In article ,
"gunner" wrote:

Gunner challenges:

Billy, I heard you graduated the 8th Grade twice so you should understand
this; I don't want to be your book reviewer and I don't want anecdotal
hyper BS obfuscating what you stated . I want to see some valid scientific
papers/research showing studies/ tests on how your statement mineral salts
kill micro organism is true. I want to see the start, the test methods and
the results which should be replicable. I don't want post hoc BS or the
argument from authority. If one of your "citations" knows it to be true,
then there is a study/paper on it, otherwise it is an unsubstantiated
opinion.

Billy again pussyfoots, counters with even more BS:

Couldn't figure it out, or getting lazy? If two authorities aren't
enough, you won't open your eyes to see what you don't want to see.
You don't like my authorities? What have you got?
Never mind. We have more important things to do,.........

WE? Are you in one of your Sybil personality modes again?

than give you a chance
to see your name in lights.

Once again your definition of an authority is BS ( scream louder, I'm on the
Internet) . Unless you can give a valid reference to a scientific paper or
some such research that one of your "citations" has actually accomplished or
perhaps has knowledge of .....you make a false statement. It is certainly
not out of the character for you to do that, you show a history of making up
facts as you preach. When that doesn't seem to work, you attack ( which is
more of your wussy Internet persona).

I am sure your first reference was a very good lawyer ( soil food web??? do
check out where Dr. Ingram is working these days) and I'm sure some the
second might be some fine master gardener. I have not read the latter
because as I said, I am not going to be your book reviewer. You
procrastinate again, son. We both know the reason. Regardless, you still
cannot back up your lie(s) and you have been played into saying it so much,
you own this one. Mineral salts do not kill micro organisms any more than
manures do. You cannot justify this lie, no matter how hard you try nor
how much you squawk.

Go back to your pretend Google book of the month review club and play up to
your fan base. Seems they buy into your BS.

Gunner
You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some
of the time ... then there is Billy... who just hasn't got a clue.

I've given you two authorities for my position, gunnie. One , Jeff
Lowenfel, Harvard University, geology; Northeastern University, law, and
two, Dr. Joseph Schwarcz, the new chair of the ACCN Editorial Board, the
director of McGill University's Office for Science and Society, a
professor in the chemistry department and teaches nutrition and
alternative medicine in McGill's Medical School.

Where is your degree from gunnie? Get help, you're sick.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn

I've given you two authorities for my position, gunnie. One , Jeff
Lowenfel, Harvard University, geology; Northeastern University, law, and
two, Dr. Joseph Schwarcz, the new chair of the ACCN Editorial Board, the
director of McGill University's Office for Science and Society, a
professor in the chemistry department and teaches nutrition and
alternative medicine in McGill's Medical School.


You are quite fickle, billy, and very comedic. The first source doesn't
give any proof that
of mineral salts kill micro organisms and his analogy of table salt and
slugs is
quite laughable. Course your source has no commerical interests does he?

As to the second source, isn't Dr Joe the one you and "your group" went
to great lengths to denounce, calling him a Monsanto shrill? Why the sudden
turn-about?
Short term memory loss? Do you think he supports your use of scary numbers
and false statistic fringe think?

Actually I find he is very anchored and mainstream, he certainly
dismissed "your group" fringe think and you are still cherry picking his
comments. That whole debacle was quite entertaining.

So enough of your silly games billy. As both of us know, mineral
fertilizers do not kill SOMs when properly applied. You haven't found a
peer reviewed
scientific paper to prove this and you won't. I'm stepping out of this
thread and letting you get back to your sermons. This one quite exhausted
its purpose.

But do yourself a favor, when a man is asking advice to help his
family, don't climb his ass, espcially with BS lies.