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I've got honey bees
In other good news, I have a concord grape arbor in my yard. This morning
I noticed that it was swarming with honey bees. I've had a few bumblebees in my yard in the spring but in very small numbers, 1 or 2, but I've never seen honey bees. But this morning I saw hundreds on my grape vines. Has anyone else noticed an increase in the bee population? I'm in Massachusetts. |
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I've seem more honey bees this year than in past years..I tend to appreciate
them more now "General Schvantzkoph" wrote in message ... In other good news, I have a concord grape arbor in my yard. This morning I noticed that it was swarming with honey bees. I've had a few bumblebees in my yard in the spring but in very small numbers, 1 or 2, but I've never seen honey bees. But this morning I saw hundreds on my grape vines. Has anyone else noticed an increase in the bee population? I'm in Massachusetts. |
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How disturbing that you begin your day killing honey bees. Like it or not, one out of every three bites of food we eat depends upon pollinators, and native bees cannot accomplish that alone - even if every honey bee disappeared. We need to encourage all types of pollinators, including honey bees. So instead of killing, here's a healthier solution to the pollinator demands of our food system: let's all concentrate on improving habitat in our gardens and on our farms by planting native wildflowers and flowering shrubs into field borders, hedgerows, and buffer strips. This approach will reduce the need for all managed pollinators (both native and non-native) by supporting vigorous wild bee populations. |
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Balvenieman wrote:
General Schvantzkoph wrote: In other good news, I have a concord grape arbor in my yard. This morning I noticed that it was swarming with honey bees. In what way is that "good" news? You have a problem: Because of their herding behavior that leads to total domination of food sources, AWA their spreading of diseases and infestations (mites) against which native populations have no defenses, European honeybees are decimating native solitary bee (such as bumblebee) populations; how, one might well ask, is that a "good" thing? How do they dominate food sources? Do honeybees spread diseases where the other bees do not? What proof do you have that it is the honeybee decimating the native bees? Are you sure other factors at work, like pesticides, herbicides and GMO,s are not responsible for the decimation of native bees, bee inbreeding? The very behavior patterns that make "tame" European honeybees so highly valuable to commercial, mono-cropping, Earth-damaging "AGRICULTUREmoneymoneymoney" are the same behavior patterns that, along with their diseases and parasites, make them so devastating to native insect populations. The presence of honeybees in the "woodlands" is always --100% the fault of negligent beekeepers--. Allowing honeybees to roam freely in the "native" or "undeveloped" bush has exactly the same deleterious effect as does allowing cattle, goats, and sheep (also alien species) to do so, the scale is just different and we don't _see_ it happening, and the perpetrators deserve jail time, IMO, because it's absolutely preventable. In my view, herders of domestic beasts do not have a "right" to inflict them on the native ecosystem but, instead, have a duty to that system to contain and control their animals. What makes you the law giver that determine "what is right"? Are you going to remove what is not native? Or is it natural selection? I start most of my days killing honey bee scouts in order to prevent them carrying the news of my garden to their pestiferous fellows. Not only do I consider bee-killing to be an essential home gardening activity, I believe it should be a priority of any gardener who wants to minimize his impact on the native ecosystem and do his little part in preserving native insect species. With an early start each morning, it is easy enough to intercept and kill the scout bees in order to prevent them from bringing the rest of the herd to a truck garden but I don't know about grape vine; depends on how aerial it is, I suppose. As a rule, I certainly don't recommend any insexticide but, in your case, the thing to do might be to locate the honeybees' nest and take out the entire hive at night when most of its inhabitants are present and lethargic or occupied with domestic duties. The few stragglers that spent the night away from the hive are not likely to be of sufficient number to maintain it. Honeybees do not travel much more that one mile from their hive. if a swarm escaped, honeybees typically will not survive a cold winter without a hive. My guess there is a local beekeeper nearby. A swarm of bees is worth about $80 US, if the queen is in the swarm. A local beekeeper would love to have it! The honeybees arrived in North America the day after the horse arrived hundreds of years ago. If following your rational, do you believe that all humans should be exterminated that are not native as well? Where there humans, their favorite food sources will be there also! -- Enjoy Life... Dan Using an iPad |
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phorbin wrote:
In article 840119220303917960.801087dan- , dude says... What makes you the law giver that determine "what is right"? Are you going to remove what is not native? Or is it natural selection? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balvenie I imagine a good scotch whiskey is a good answer as any -- Enjoy Life... Dan Using an iPad |
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"Balvenieman" wrote in message
General Schvantzkoph wrote: In other good news, I have a concord grape arbor in my yard. This morning I noticed that it was swarming with honey bees. In what way is that "good" news? You have a problem: Because of their herding behavior that leads to total domination of food sources, AWA their spreading of diseases and infestations (mites) against which native populations have no defenses, European honeybees are decimating native solitary bee (such as bumblebee) populations; how, one might well ask, is that a "good" thing? It probably depends on the importance you put on the survival of a huge slab of the human race. Personally, I think humanity needs a good scourge, but most people don't see it the same way as I do. I reckon that at least half of the human race could disappear and that that would be a good thing. Bees are important when it comes to feeding humans so those European honey bees are needed as part of the feeding process regardless of whether we have a scourge or not. |
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In article , ask@itshall
says... It probably depends on the importance you put on the survival of a huge slab of the human race. Personally, I think humanity needs a good scourge, but most people don't see it the same way as I do. I reckon that at least half of the human race could disappear and that that would be a good thing. I used to feel this way until I realized that a disease that can take out 50% can take out 100% by itself without considering waves of disease, vermin, etc. that would follow. |
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phorbin wrote: In article , ask@itshall says... It probably depends on the importance you put on the survival of a huge slab of the human race. Personally, I think humanity needs a good scourge, but most people don't see it the same way as I do. I reckon that at least half of the human race could disappear and that that would be a good thing. I used to feel this way until I realized that a disease that can take out 50% can take out 100% by itself without considering waves of disease, vermin, etc. that would follow. Great book, "The World Without Us", by Alan Weisman http://www.amazon.com/World-Without-...1C2E0QK/ref=sr _1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282344894&sr=1-1 If you liked Jerod Diamond's books, you'll like this one. In a hundred thousand years (the blink of an eye in geologic time), things could get back to normal(?) on Earth. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html |
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Default I've got honey bees phorbin wrote: In article 840119220303917960.801087dan- , dude says... What makes you the law giver that determine "what is right"? Are you going to remove what is not native? Or is it natural selection? Balvenie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I imagine a good scotch whiskey is a good answer as any -- Enjoy Life... Dan Using an iPad Report this post as spam, offensive or inappropriate Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message |
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leenco12 leenco12 wrote:
'Billy[_10_ Wrote: ;898003']In article , phorbin wrote: - In article , ask@itshall says... - It probably depends on the importance you put on the survival of a huge slab of the human race. Personally, I think humanity needs a good scourge, but most people don't see it the same way as I do. I reckon that at least half of the human race could disappear and that that would be a good thing. - I used to feel this way until I realized that a disease that can take out 50% can take out 100% by itself without considering waves of disease, vermin, etc. that would follow.- Great book, "The World Without Us", by Alan Weisman 'Amazon.com: The World Without Us: Alan Weisman: Books' (http://tinyurl.com/38er4uo) _1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282344894&sr=1-1 If you liked Jerod Diamond's books, you'll like this one. In a hundred thousand years (the blink of an eye in geologic time), things could get back to normal(?) on Earth. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. 'Maude Barlow: \"The World Has Divided into Rich and Poor as at No Time in History\"' (http://tinyurl.com/29gxgs5) 'Israel cracks down on dissent - middleeast - Al Jazeera English' (http://tinyurl.com/2gy7394) Default I've got honey bees phorbin wrote: In article 840119220303917960.801087dan- , dude says... What makes you the law giver that determine "what is right"? Are you going to remove what is not native? Or is it natural selection? 'Balvenie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balvenie) I imagine a good scotch whiskey is a good answer as any Use your own footers leenco12. Keep the messaging straight. If you don't like what I stated, respond to it in the messaging area! And use your own signature, do not modify my signatures! Or I will report you -- Enjoy Life... Dan L |
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In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote: "Balvenieman" wrote in message General Schvantzkoph wrote: In other good news, I have a concord grape arbor in my yard. This morning I noticed that it was swarming with honey bees. In what way is that "good" news? You have a problem: Because of their herding behavior that leads to total domination of food sources, AWA their spreading of diseases and infestations (mites) against which native populations have no defenses, European honeybees are decimating native solitary bee (such as bumblebee) populations; how, one might well ask, is that a "good" thing? It probably depends on the importance you put on the survival of a huge slab of the human race. Personally, I think humanity needs a good scourge, but most people don't see it the same way as I do. I reckon that at least half of the human race could disappear and that that would be a good thing. Bees are important when it comes to feeding humans so those European honey bees are needed as part of the feeding process regardless of whether we have a scourge or not. You volunteering? Seems like birth control would be a better idea. Tax breaks (or cash) for the childless and draconian surcharges for the prolific. Of course that would probably lead to many more males being born, as in China, which may lead to wives with multiple husbands. Oops, I hope that wasn't too shocking of an idea for you ;O) Maybe we could encourage gay marriages ;O) -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html |
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