Are you seriously saying that you support fish that eat chicken shit?
Seriously...
This is just one more reason why I consider you an idiot.



"Billy" wrote in message
...
Sci Am, April 2010

Breaking the Growth Habit
by Bill McKibben

For the past quarter of a century, despite the rapid spread of
massive-scale agribusiness farming, pesticides and genetically
engineered crops, the amount of grain per person has been dropping.
Serious people have begun to rethink small-scale agriculture, to produce
lots of food on relatively small farms with little or nothing in the way
of synthetic fertilizer or chemicals.


The new agriculture often works best when it combines fresh knowledge
with older wisdom. In Bangladesh a new chicken coop produces not just
eggs and meat, but waste that feeds a fishpond, which in turn produces
thousands of kilograms of protein annually, and a healthy crop of water
hyacinths that are fed to a small herd of cows, whose dung in turn
fires a biogas cooking system.


In Malawi, tiny fishponds that recycle waste from the rest of a farm
yield on average about 1,500 kilograms offish. In Madagascar, rice
farmers working with European experts have figured out ways to increase
yields. They transplant seedlings weeks earlier than is customary, space
the plants farther apart, and keep the paddies unflooded during most of
the growing season. That means they have to weed more, but it also
increases yields fourfold to sixfold. An estimated 20,000 farmers have
adopted the full system.


In Craftsbury, Vt., Pete Johnson has helped pioneer year-round farming.
Johnson has built solar greenhouses and figured out how to move them on
tracks. He now can cover and uncover different fields and grow greens 10
months of the year without any fossil fuels, allowing him to run his
community-supported agriculture farm continuously.


I'm not arguing for local food because it tastes better or because it's
better for you. I'm arguing that we have no choice. In a world more
prone to drought and flood, we need the resilience that comes with three
dozen different crops in one field, not a vast ocean of corn or
soybeans. In a world where warmth spreads pests more efficiently, we
need the resilience of many local varieties and breeds. And in a world
with less oil, we need the kind of small, mixed farms that can provide
their own fertilizer and build their own soil.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

In article ,
"Thos" wrote:

Are you seriously saying that you support fish that eat chicken shit?
Seriously...
This is just one more reason why I consider you an idiot.
No sense in explaining to the mentally myopic. Good luck with your life.



"Billy" wrote in message
...
Sci Am, April 2010

Breaking the Growth Habit
by Bill McKibben

For the past quarter of a century, despite the rapid spread of
massive-scale agribusiness farming, pesticides and genetically
engineered crops, the amount of grain per person has been dropping.
Serious people have begun to rethink small-scale agriculture, to produce
lots of food on relatively small farms with little or nothing in the way
of synthetic fertilizer or chemicals.


The new agriculture often works best when it combines fresh knowledge
with older wisdom. In Bangladesh a new chicken coop produces not just
eggs and meat, but waste that feeds a fishpond, which in turn produces
thousands of kilograms of protein annually, and a healthy crop of water
hyacinths that are fed to a small herd of cows, whose dung in turn
fires a biogas cooking system.


In Malawi, tiny fishponds that recycle waste from the rest of a farm
yield on average about 1,500 kilograms offish. In Madagascar, rice
farmers working with European experts have figured out ways to increase
yields. They transplant seedlings weeks earlier than is customary, space
the plants farther apart, and keep the paddies unflooded during most of
the growing season. That means they have to weed more, but it also
increases yields fourfold to sixfold. An estimated 20,000 farmers have
adopted the full system.


In Craftsbury, Vt., Pete Johnson has helped pioneer year-round farming.
Johnson has built solar greenhouses and figured out how to move them on
tracks. He now can cover and uncover different fields and grow greens 10
months of the year without any fossil fuels, allowing him to run his
community-supported agriculture farm continuously.


I'm not arguing for local food because it tastes better or because it's
better for you. I'm arguing that we have no choice. In a world more
prone to drought and flood, we need the resilience that comes with three
dozen different crops in one field, not a vast ocean of corn or
soybeans. In a world where warmth spreads pests more efficiently, we
need the resilience of many local varieties and breeds. And in a world
with less oil, we need the kind of small, mixed farms that can provide
their own fertilizer and build their own soil.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...6515308172.htm
l
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

"Billy" wrote in message
...
Sci Am, April 2010

Breaking the Growth Habit
by Bill McKibben

For the past quarter of a century, despite the rapid spread of
massive-scale agribusiness farming, pesticides and genetically
engineered crops, the amount of grain per person has been dropping.
Serious people have begun to rethink small-scale agriculture, to
produce lots of food on relatively small farms with little or
nothing in the way of synthetic fertilizer or chemicals.


The new agriculture often works best when it combines fresh knowledge
with older wisdom. In Bangladesh a new chicken coop produces not just
eggs and meat, but waste that feeds a fishpond, which in turn
produces thousands of kilograms of protein annually, and a healthy
crop of water hyacinths that are fed to a small herd of cows, whose
dung in turn fires a biogas cooking system.


In Malawi, tiny fishponds that recycle waste from the rest of a farm
yield on average about 1,500 kilograms offish. In Madagascar, rice
farmers working with European experts have figured out ways to
increase yields. They transplant seedlings weeks earlier than is
customary, space the plants farther apart, and keep the paddies
unflooded during most of the growing season. That means they have to
weed more, but it also increases yields fourfold to sixfold. An
estimated 20,000 farmers have adopted the full system.


In Craftsbury, Vt., Pete Johnson has helped pioneer year-round
farming. Johnson has built solar greenhouses and figured out how to
move them on tracks. He now can cover and uncover different fields
and grow greens 10 months of the year without any fossil fuels,
allowing him to run his community-supported agriculture farm
continuously. I'm not arguing for local food because it tastes better or
because
it's better for you. I'm arguing that we have no choice. In a world
more prone to drought and flood, we need the resilience that comes
with three dozen different crops in one field, not a vast ocean of
corn or soybeans. In a world where warmth spreads pests more
efficiently, we need the resilience of many local varieties and
breeds. And in a world with less oil, we need the kind of small,
mixed farms that can provide their own fertilizer and build their
own soil. --
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

Thos wrote:
Are you seriously saying that you support fish that eat chicken shit?
Seriously...
This is just one more reason why I consider you an idiot.




It says:

"a new chicken coop produces not just eggs and meat, but waste that feeds a
fishpond, which in turn produces thousands of kilograms of protein annually"

It is not the fish that 'eat' chicken shit it is the pond. I think you will
find that the manure makes algae and/or water plants grow which in turn
feeds the fish. You seem to be short on basic understanding of how
nutrients are recycled in nature and the benefit that humans can and must
get from coopting such processes.

Manures are some of the best additives for a productive garden. Mushrooms
grow on cow manure, do you despise them? Most of the phosphate that is
found in commercial fertiliser came out of the bum of a bird or a bat, does
the thought of that bother you? Rabbits regularly eat shit, does that mean
they are forever banned from your life?

If the fish did eat chicken shit (they probably wouldn't) why would it be
such a problem? Seriously.

David

"Thos" wrote in message
...
Are you seriously saying that you support fish that eat chicken shit?

Many vegetable plants 'eat' chicken shit (or horse shit or cow shit or many
other types of shit) and they in turn are eaten by humans.

Seriously...
This is just one more reason why I consider you an idiot.

"To each his own" said the old woman as she kissed the cow.

"Billy" wrote in message
...
Sci Am, April 2010

Breaking the Growth Habit
by Bill McKibben

For the past quarter of a century, despite the rapid spread of
massive-scale agribusiness farming, pesticides and genetically
engineered crops, the amount of grain per person has been dropping.
Serious people have begun to rethink small-scale agriculture, to produce
lots of food on relatively small farms with little or nothing in the way
of synthetic fertilizer or chemicals.


The new agriculture often works best when it combines fresh knowledge
with older wisdom. In Bangladesh a new chicken coop produces not just
eggs and meat, but waste that feeds a fishpond, which in turn produces
thousands of kilograms of protein annually, and a healthy crop of water
hyacinths that are fed to a small herd of cows, whose dung in turn
fires a biogas cooking system.


In Malawi, tiny fishponds that recycle waste from the rest of a farm
yield on average about 1,500 kilograms offish. In Madagascar, rice
farmers working with European experts have figured out ways to increase
yields. They transplant seedlings weeks earlier than is customary, space
the plants farther apart, and keep the paddies unflooded during most of
the growing season. That means they have to weed more, but it also
increases yields fourfold to sixfold. An estimated 20,000 farmers have
adopted the full system.


In Craftsbury, Vt., Pete Johnson has helped pioneer year-round farming.
Johnson has built solar greenhouses and figured out how to move them on
tracks. He now can cover and uncover different fields and grow greens 10
months of the year without any fossil fuels, allowing him to run his
community-supported agriculture farm continuously.


I'm not arguing for local food because it tastes better or because it's
better for you. I'm arguing that we have no choice. In a world more
prone to drought and flood, we need the resilience that comes with three
dozen different crops in one field, not a vast ocean of corn or
soybeans. In a world where warmth spreads pests more efficiently, we
need the resilience of many local varieties and breeds. And in a world
with less oil, we need the kind of small, mixed farms that can provide
their own fertilizer and build their own soil.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

On Aug 22, 11:37*pm, "Thos" wrote:
Are you seriously saying that you support fish that eat chicken shit?
Seriously...
This is just one more reason why I consider you an idiot.

"Billy" wrote in message

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Sci Am, April 2010

Breaking the Growth Habit
*by Bill McKibben

For the past quarter of a century, despite the rapid spread of
massive-scale agribusiness farming, pesticides and genetically
engineered crops, the amount of grain per person has been dropping.
Serious people have begun to rethink small-scale agriculture, to produce
lots of food on relatively small farms with little or nothing in the way
of synthetic fertilizer or chemicals.

The new agriculture often works best when it combines fresh knowledge
with older wisdom. In Bangladesh a new chicken coop produces not just
eggs and meat, but waste that feeds a fishpond, which in turn produces
thousands of kilograms of protein annually, *and a healthy crop of water
hyacinths that are fed to a small herd of *cows, whose dung in turn
fires a biogas cooking system.

In Malawi, tiny fishponds that recycle waste from the rest of a farm
yield on average about 1,500 kilograms offish. In Madagascar, rice
farmers working with European experts have figured out ways to increase
yields. They transplant seedlings weeks earlier than is customary, space
the plants farther apart, and keep the paddies unflooded during most of
the growing season. That means they have to weed more, but it also
increases yields fourfold to sixfold. An estimated 20,000 farmers have
adopted the full system.

In Craftsbury, Vt., Pete Johnson has helped pioneer year-round farming.
Johnson has built solar greenhouses and figured out how to move them on
tracks. He now can cover and uncover different fields and grow greens 10
months of the year without any fossil fuels, allowing him to run his
community-supported agriculture farm continuously.

I'm not arguing for local food because it tastes better or because it's
better for you. I'm arguing that we have no choice. In a world more
prone to drought and flood, we need the resilience that comes with three
dozen different crops in one field, not a vast ocean of corn or
soybeans. In a world where warmth spreads pests more efficiently, we
need the resilience of many local varieties and breeds. And in *a world
with less oil, we need the kind of small, mixed farms that can *provide
their own fertilizer and build their own soil.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...2816515308...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Didn't know any in group see it as I do.
Op wants us to go back to the days when 95% of us were farmers

In article ,
says...

Are you seriously saying that you support fish that eat chicken shit?
Seriously...
This is just one more reason why I consider you an idiot.

http://www.google.ca/search?client=f...zilla%3Aen-US%
3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=water+hyaci nths+purification&meta
=&btnG=Google+Search

Do some reading and then start backward engineering the system being
described.

sheesh