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It's not Just Joel Salatin anymore
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, Billy wrote: In article -se ptember.org, Dan L wrote: Billy wrote: In article , songbird wrote: Billy wrote: ... If you got to http://www.polyfacefarms.com/default.aspx and click on "Principles" there are 3 videos to watch. In the first video "Mimic Nature", Daniel Salatin mentions that the turkeys get 20% of their feed from the pasture, so it isn't a closed system. sorry, slow dialup, i don't watch video or youtube here... Today on "Democracy Now" http://www.democracynow.org/ there are 2 reports on food production. One is on egg production and the other is on meat production. They both fit nicely into the discussion that we we having on the quality of food. They don't talk about increasing supply, but rather about maintaining quality. yea, i read something the other day in the WSJ about eggs being recalled and new rules (FDA i think) that just went into effect. we'll see if they actually help. two producers and hundreds of millions of eggs. Since the food supply has become so integrated, just on supplier can screw up the system for many others. what ever happened to monopoly enforcement? It's like the dog food scandal, where one supplier provided the cheapest source of protein powder, which turned out to be adulterated with melamine and cyanuric acid to give the appearance of higher levels of protein. that was outright fraud. which is a moral and ethical issue apart from sustainable agricultural practices. i didn't follow up what happened back in China but i think there were comments about, "facing possible execution." songbird Relax, he was executed. The dog food was feed to steers, pork, and fish. Feel better? "Pet Food Politics: The Chihuahua in the Coal Mine" by Marion Nestle http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Food-Polit...520265890/ref= sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282796329&sr=1-2 She isn't the best of writers, but it is a good book. Not just dog food! They were executed for putting the same stuff in human baby food formulas which killed several babies in China. The baby formulas was not sold in the US. China's economy is growing at a rate of 10%/year. This would probably come under the heading of deadly growing pain. I saw an interview with some of the workers of the factory where the wheat flour was laced with melamine and cyanuric acid (they are about 5 times more deadly in combination than alone), and the workers smiled and said, "Yeah, it looks like it has more protein." They obviously didn't have a clue about its effects on a living organism. People thought that they were buying wheat gluten (not laced wheat flour). There isn't one wheat gluten for animals and one for humans. This was one of the points that Amy Goodman was trying to make about the integrated global economy. No one knows what's in the food anymore, because it has be made from a mish-mash of ingredients from around the planet. In 2006, China ranked third behind India and Mexico in the number of food shipments refused by the FDA. These dame neo-nutcake-liberals don't want any government regulations because it impedes business. But as we can see with the egg recall, people are getting sick because business is on the honor system. The least we can do is give the FDA the authority to declare a recall when they see a health concern. The FDA also needs to be funded for what it has been mandated to do. The funding for health concerns should be taken away from the USDA, which markets farm products (conflict of interest), and be given to the FDA. I have sometimes wondered about wheat gluten. When I make my own homemade breads I do not have stomach upsets. However I almost always get heartburn and upset stomach from "added gluten" in store bought products. I have been tested negative for celiac or wheat allergies. I make my own foods and tend to stay away from packaged foods. Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow. Have you purchased cod, catfish in stores? Product of China. Some have statements like "Carbon Monoxide added for flavor enhancement" on the bags???? That is damn decent of them. Here in the good ol' U.S. of A., we do it without any kind notification. http://meatisneat.wordpress.com/2009...aging-meat-in- carbon-monoxide/ The carbon monoxide binds with the hemoglobin to keep the meat looking fresh (red), no matter how old and funky it may be. This is done to some meat that is wrapped in plastic. It is also the reason that I won't buy meat that is wrapped in plastic, like Saturday's, barbecue, pork ribs. A very interesting site. You correct "Damn decent of them"! Other companies have been doing it for years!!!! We are living on a new world. I think I am going to get a boat a start fishing here in the great lakes. I do miss the taste of good sea food, not just lake food. Only thing in sea food markets are the bug foods, lobster, shrimp and oysters. How's "Eaarth" coming along? A very good book, currently on page thirty. He seemed to give up on changing the world. Shifted to self protection. Seems like I have been doing just that myself in the last few years. Just like the economy and global warming, what can one do except, do our part and protect ourselves. We are living on a new world called "Eaarth". Learn to live with it. -- Enjoy Life... Dan Garden in Zone 5 South East Michigan. Using a Laptop |
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