"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week. She should produce more than
I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the extra.
The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it yet, it
takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of parmesan
cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and runs and romps
around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her with her playfulness
and hope I do not get hurt.

--
Enjoy Life... Dan L

"Dan L" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week. She should produce more than
I can drink.

I'm sure she will :-))

Will learn to make my own cheese products with the extra.
The cheese making equipment is not cheap.

You can make soft cheese very easily and wouldn't need anything more than
you'd have in your kitchen. Either make yoghurt or make junket using
Hansen's junket tablets (although I seem to recall that USian for Junket is
something else - curd perhaps???). Line a colander with an old soft tea
towel, pour in the yoghurt or junket and tie up the towle and hang it up and
leave it to drip overnight. if I ever have to let soemthign drip overnight
then I upturn and old stool that I keep just for this purpose and hang
whatever has to drip off a long handled wooden spoon place horizontally
across the bottom of the stool.

I read, not done it yet, it
takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of parmesan
cheese.

Yeah I think that'd be about right. I've read up on it to as it's something
that's always interested me, but we don't have a dairy cow, I've only ever
made soft cheese but they are delicious and easy to do.

Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and runs and romps
around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her with her playfulness
and hope I do not get hurt.

Yeah. I'd be a bit nervous too. If she ever does start throwing her weight
around and pushing you, get rid of her instantly and replacce her.

Dan L wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week.

How was it for you? At least she wouldn't want to share your cigarette
afterwards.

She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and runs
and romps around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her with
her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

I have the same worry when Mootilda bangs her face into the feed bucket I am
holding. Cows seem very rough compared to horses. I am pretty sure she
won't deliberately hurt me but the horns come close.

David

"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week.

How was it for you? At least she wouldn't want to share your
cigarette afterwards.
No smoker here, however the vet was up to his armpit and cost me $80

She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and runs
and romps around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her with
her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

I have the same worry when Mootilda bangs her face into the feed
bucket I am holding. Cows seem very rough compared to horses. I
am pretty sure she won't deliberately hurt me but the horns come
close.

David
HORNS!!!!!! Bessy was dehorned from day one! The holes filled in within
a week. The feed buckets are next to the summer shelter. She does not
see me put feed in the bucket. If she sees me she runs at full speed to
me. She has a two acre pasture to play in. I will create another two
acre pasture by next spring next to it. Same feeling here, if I get
hurt it was not intentional. I do not want her to be afraid when it
comes time for milking. She has a good friend, a chocolate labrador that
comes over and plays and romp together.

Currently she is milking me for money like there is tomorrow. Which
worries me a little. I call this the infrastructure cost that should
last a long time. One major cost is concerning me. I would love to get a
mini hay bailer, but they are extremely expensive. Right now my neighbor
bails hay for me.

--
Enjoy Life... Dan L

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Dan L wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week.

How was it for you? At least she wouldn't want to share your
cigarette afterwards.
No smoker here, however the vet was up to his armpit and cost me $80
Wow, talk about service. You both got . . .ummm . . ah . oh, never mind.

She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and runs
and romps around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her with
her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

I have the same worry when Mootilda bangs her face into the feed
bucket I am holding. Cows seem very rough compared to horses. I
am pretty sure she won't deliberately hurt me but the horns come
close.

David
HORNS!!!!!! Bessy was dehorned from day one! The holes filled in within
a week. The feed buckets are next to the summer shelter. She does not
see me put feed in the bucket. If she sees me she runs at full speed to
me. She has a two acre pasture to play in. I will create another two
acre pasture by next spring next to it. Same feeling here, if I get
hurt it was not intentional. I do not want her to be afraid when it
comes time for milking. She has a good friend, a chocolate labrador that
comes over and plays and romp together.

Currently she is milking me for money like there is tomorrow. Which
worries me a little. I call this the infrastructure cost that should
last a long time. One major cost is concerning me. I would love to get a
mini hay bailer, but they are extremely expensive. Right now my neighbor
bails hay for me.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

Dan L wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week.

How was it for you? At least she wouldn't want to share your
cigarette afterwards.
No smoker here, however the vet was up to his armpit and cost me $80



Did you ever read the books or see the TV series "All creatures great and
small"? It's about country vets in the UK and quite delighful. In it the
chief vet declares (truthfully) "there is much good information to be had up
a cow's arse". This was on prime-time TV about 30 years ago, I nearly fell
off my chair laughing.

She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and
runs and romps around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her
with her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

I have the same worry when Mootilda bangs her face into the feed
bucket I am holding. Cows seem very rough compared to horses. I
am pretty sure she won't deliberately hurt me but the horns come
close.

David
HORNS!!!!!! Bessy was dehorned from day one! The holes filled in
within a week. The feed buckets are next to the summer shelter. She
does not see me put feed in the bucket. If she sees me she runs at
full speed to me. She has a two acre pasture to play in. I will
create another two acre pasture by next spring next to it. Same
feeling here, if I get hurt it was not intentional. I do not want her
to be afraid when it comes time for milking. She has a good friend, a
chocolate labrador that comes over and plays and romp together.

Currently she is milking me for money like there is tomorrow. Which
worries me a little. I call this the infrastructure cost that should
last a long time. One major cost is concerning me. I would love to
get a mini hay bailer, but they are extremely expensive. Right now my
neighbor bails hay for me.

Many people find it cost effective to pay a contractor to cut and bail hay
instead of owning the machinery.

David

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

Dan L wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week.

How was it for you? At least she wouldn't want to share your
cigarette afterwards.
No smoker here, however the vet was up to his armpit and cost me $80



Did you ever read the books or see the TV series "All creatures great and
small"? It's about country vets in the UK and quite delighful. In it the
chief vet declares (truthfully) "there is much good information to be had up
a cow's arse".

But do you think people would look? Oh no, too busy, too self-absorbed,
too self-conscious to even take the tiniest little peek. Harumph.

This was on prime-time TV about 30 years ago, I nearly fell
off my chair laughing.

She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and
runs and romps around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her
with her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

I have the same worry when Mootilda bangs her face into the feed
bucket I am holding. Cows seem very rough compared to horses. I
am pretty sure she won't deliberately hurt me but the horns come
close.

David
HORNS!!!!!! Bessy was dehorned from day one! The holes filled in
within a week. The feed buckets are next to the summer shelter. She
does not see me put feed in the bucket. If she sees me she runs at
full speed to me. She has a two acre pasture to play in. I will
create another two acre pasture by next spring next to it. Same
feeling here, if I get hurt it was not intentional. I do not want her
to be afraid when it comes time for milking. She has a good friend, a
chocolate labrador that comes over and plays and romp together.

Currently she is milking me for money like there is tomorrow. Which
worries me a little. I call this the infrastructure cost that should
last a long time. One major cost is concerning me. I would love to
get a mini hay bailer, but they are extremely expensive. Right now my
neighbor bails hay for me.

Many people find it cost effective to pay a contractor to cut and bail hay
instead of owning the machinery.

David
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude
http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html

"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:
"Dan L." wrote in message

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week.

How was it for you? At least she wouldn't want to share your
cigarette afterwards.
No smoker here, however the vet was up to his armpit and cost me $80
)


Did you ever read the books or see the TV series "All creatures great
and small"? It's about country vets in the UK and quite delighful.
In it the chief vet declares (truthfully) "there is much good
information to be had up a cow's arse". This was on prime-time TV
about 30 years ago, I nearly fell off my chair laughing.

She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with
the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done
it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese. Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and
runs and romps around. Sometimes I get a little nervous around her
with her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

I have the same worry when Mootilda bangs her face into the feed
bucket I am holding. Cows seem very rough compared to horses. I
am pretty sure she won't deliberately hurt me but the horns come
close.

David
HORNS!!!!!! Bessy was dehorned from day one! The holes filled in
within a week. The feed buckets are next to the summer shelter. She
does not see me put feed in the bucket. If she sees me she runs at
full speed to me. She has a two acre pasture to play in. I will
create another two acre pasture by next spring next to it. Same
feeling here, if I get hurt it was not intentional. I do not want her
to be afraid when it comes time for milking. She has a good friend, a
chocolate labrador that comes over and plays and romp together.

Currently she is milking me for money like there is tomorrow. Which
worries me a little. I call this the infrastructure cost that should
last a long time. One major cost is concerning me. I would love to
get a mini hay bailer, but they are extremely expensive. Right now my
neighbor bails hay for me.

Many people find it cost effective to pay a contractor to cut and bail
hay instead of owning the machinery.

David
That is me because cost.
--
Enjoy Life... Dan L

Dan L wrote:
FarmI wrote:
Dan L.wrote:

Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.

Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?

Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week. She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese.

sterilized buckets, cheese-cloth and a culture of some kind.
none of these are majorly expensive. some heat source during
the cooler months if your place of production is not insulated
well... the most expensive part is the time it takes to finish or
age and that means storage space. the people who use caves
have it right. mmm!


Bessy plays like a dog, wants to be petted and runs
and romps around.

uhoh,


Sometimes I get a little nervous around her with
her playfulness and hope I do not get hurt.

you gotta show her who's boss. physics, otherwise,
will not be your friend, in this equation.


songbird

"songbird" wrote:
Dan L wrote:
FarmI wrote:
Dan L.wrote:
Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.
Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?
Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week. She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese.

sterilized buckets, cheese-cloth and a culture of some kind.
none of these are majorly expensive. some heat source during
the cooler months if your place of production is not insulated
well... the most expensive part is the time it takes to finish or age
and that means storage space. the people who use caves have it
right. mmm!

Soft cheeses are low cost and can be made in short time, from what i
read. Hard cheeses are not, price a cheese press? Might modify a fridge
for storage.

you gotta show her who's boss. physics, otherwise,
will not be your friend, in this equation.


songbird
Physics is my friend along with his sidekick calculus.

--
Enjoy Life... Dan L

Dan L wrote:
songbird wrote:
Dan L wrote:
FarmI wrote:
Dan L.wrote:
Why I have my own chickens and a Jersey milk cow.
Mmmmmm.. A Jersey. How much does she produce a day?
Nothing yet, impregnated the cow last week. She should produce more
than I can drink. Will learn to make my own cheese products with the
extra. The cheese making equipment is not cheap. I read, not done it
yet, it takes 17 pounds of milk and one year to make one pound of
parmesan cheese.

sterilized buckets, cheese-cloth and a culture of some kind.
none of these are majorly expensive. some heat source during
the cooler months if your place of production is not insulated
well... the most expensive part is the time it takes to finish or
age and that means storage space. the people who use caves have it
right. mmm!

Soft cheeses are low cost and can be made in short time, from what i
read.

yeah! and whole milk yogurt from raw milk is
wonderful too. i can imagine what a good raw
cream cheese, brie, camembert, etc. would
be like.


Hard cheeses are not, price a cheese press? Might modify a
fridge for storage.

how large a press are you talking here?

gravity, water in buckets and the right
surfaces, forms and inserts are not that
tough to figure out nor horribly
expensive, what am i missing here?

sure, if you go all stainless steel
with a hydraulic press and all sorts
of gizmos you'll be out some major
bucks, but improvise with some
woodworking skills and i think you
can get by for much less.


you gotta show her who's boss. physics, otherwise,
will not be your friend, in this equation.

Physics is my friend along with his sidekick calculus.

that derivative use of a sliderule wasn't covered!


songbird