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Bennewby;924555 Wrote:
Does anyone have any good ways to deter slugs? Preferably without using
slug pellets.... My strawberries are looking really good and healthy but
I have noticed quite a few leaves are being eaten and there are slug
trails on them


My dad used to use those little plastic tubs you get Chinese food in,
sink them flush to the soil near his veggies and fill em with cheap beer
combined with hand picking them from all over the garden at night.



If slugs are a huge problem, you need to remove their habitat by raking
up your mulch in spring and composting it. Then, start your garden in
open soil, and wait until early summer to add a fresh blanket of mulch.
You still may have problems because your soil may be well stocked with
slug eggs. A few years ago, a U.S. Department of Agriculture scientist
found that crabgrass contains a substance toxic to slugs. Since then,
many backyard slug slayers have experimented with crabgrass cookies,
which are made by mixing chopped, dried crabgrass leaves with corn bran,
cornstarch and beer. The baits are then placed beneath plants, where the
slugs eat them and die.

Another option is spraying coffee on plants that are plagued with slugs.
Caffeine in any form ‹ including a few No-Doz tablets mixed with water ‹
is a slug neurotoxin that will kill these unwanted pests.

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown. Dump them out and start over again every
few days.
---

Or if you are tired of night patrol, see:
http://www.ecoact.org/PDF/ipm_factsheets/SnailSlg.101.pdf

and look at the section about Iron Phosphates.

It is only poisonous to snails and slugs, and has been added to human
food as a nutrient enhancer.
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of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/
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When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.


As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.


As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/
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In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.


As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite :-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast) you
can use it on the gastropods.


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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.

As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.


Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite :-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast) you
can use it on the gastropods.


What? It's better than Nuss Nuggat with raspberry jam on toast? I
already have enough habits, most of them are bad, but I await the
opportunity to give it a go ;O)

I'm not sure what my formerly rampaging gangs of snails and slugs are
having for breakfast in that Gastropod Valhalla where they now reside.

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.
--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/


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Billy wrote:

In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.

As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails
have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that works.

Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite
::-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any
degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast) you
can use it on the gastropods.


What? It's better than Nuss Nuggat with raspberry jam on toast? I

Whoops, Nuss Nuggat is what they call it in Germany, in the States we
use the French brand, Nutella.

already have enough habits, most of them are bad, but I await the
opportunity to give it a go ;O)

I'm not sure what my formerly rampaging gangs of snails and slugs are
having for breakfast in that Gastropod Valhalla where they now reside.

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.

--
- Billy

Mad dog Republicans to the right. Democratic spider webs to the left. True conservatives, and liberals not to be found anywhere in the phantasmagoria
of the American political landscape.

America is not broke. The country is awash in wealth and cash.
It's just that it's not in your hands. It has been transferred, in the
greatest heist in history, from the workers and consumers to the banks
and the portfolios of the uber-rich.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/.../michael-moore
/michael-moore-says-400-americans-have-more-wealth-/
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"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message

When youčre down to only a few slugs, you can fall back on the
traditional organic control, which is to trap them with beer. Put an
inch or so of any beer in a cup, bury it in the garden nearly to the
rim, and collect your drowned slugs in the morning. Or, put some
beer
in
plastic drink bottles and lay them on their sides in the garden. The
slugs will crawl in and drown.

As I understand it, it's not drowning, it's the yeast. I'd always
thought
that the yeast acts as a poison for slugs and snails so you dont' need
huge
amounts of it. The dregs from the bottom of a bottle of beer that has
been
drunk is enough. I've never used a lot of beer and still the snails
have
died (and not whilst in the the liquid, but near it). Now you've got
me
wondering about what it is about the beer and yeast spreads that
works.

Do you mean the little "fun-guys", themselves, or chemicals that they
produce, like ethanol? Unlike Coopers, I'm not familiar with any USian
beers that are "krausened" (leaving yeast in the bottle).

I've never had good luck using beer on snails and slugs. Maybe it is
the
lack of yeast in the beer, or that most USian beer is so highly
processed, that our "refined" European snails may not recognize it as
beer. Micro-brewery beers, on the other hand, are too good, and too
expensive to put out for the marauding gangs of gastropods that used to
menace my garden.

I've seen very few slugs and snail this wet spring (19C and rain
today).
When I put a plant in the ground now, it is still there the next day,
not just a green stump where the plant used to be. This I attribute to
my reliance on ferric phosphate (iron phosphate) baits.


:-)) Perhaps you need to go buy some Vegemite or Marmite or Promite
:-)))))
If you don't like the taste of it on your toast, (and anyone with any
degree
of discernment, style and class will of course like it on their toast)
you
can use it on the gastropods.


What? It's better than Nuss Nuggat with raspberry jam on toast? I
already have enough habits, most of them are bad, but I await the
opportunity to give it a go ;O)


I'm sure we've all got a few habits we should give up.

I'm not sure what my formerly rampaging gangs of snails and slugs are
having for breakfast in that Gastropod Valhalla where they now reside.


I do hope there is a gardener there with large boots who likes nothing so
much as the satisfying crunch as the boot comes down on those soft slimy
bodies.

Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.


I just had to do a google. Very big and scary looking beasties. Wish those
selfish sods would send some decent rain in my direction - it always seems
to fall over the coastal cites these days. Sigh.


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Saw your waterspouts on the telly, very impressive, WOW.


I just had to do a google. Very big and scary looking beasties.
Wish those selfish sods would send some decent rain in my direction -
it always seems to fall over the coastal cites these days. Sigh.


We got 70mm this week and 30mm last week, I'll email you some.

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