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So, my tomatoes did good. But morning glories took over again.

And killed the corn.

green beans survived. on a fence.

eggplant excellent.

peppers excellent

no bug issues.

I've got worms and toads back in play.

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.


Diesel.

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DogDiesel wrote:
So, my tomatoes did good. But morning glories took over again.

And killed the corn.

green beans survived. on a fence.

eggplant excellent.

peppers excellent

no bug issues.

I've got worms and toads back in play.

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.


Diesel.

1) Cut them or pull them out regularly

2) Apply glyphosate

3) Both

D

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DogDiesel wrote:

So, my tomatoes did good. But morning glories took over again.

And killed the corn.

eek!


green beans survived. on a fence.

eggplant excellent.

peppers excellent

no bug issues.

:) yay!


I've got worms and toads back in play.

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.

are these the kind that are an annual
as seeds and have come back each year
since then or are these a wild variety
perennial variety or ?


songbird

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DogDiesel wrote:
So, my tomatoes did good. But morning glories took over again.

And killed the corn.

green beans survived. on a fence.

eggplant excellent.

peppers excellent

no bug issues.

I've got worms and toads back in play.

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.

If they are coming from a neighbors yard, using a sharp spade to root cut at the
property line would probably help. Even better would be a root barrier.

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"songbird" wrote in message
...
DogDiesel wrote:

So, my tomatoes did good. But morning glories took over again.

And killed the corn.

eek!


green beans survived. on a fence.

eggplant excellent.

peppers excellent

no bug issues.

:) yay!


I've got worms and toads back in play.

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.

are these the kind that are an annual
as seeds and have come back each year
since then or are these a wild variety
perennial variety or ?


songbird

They come back every year for about 20 years now. I got them from horse
manure from horses eating in open fields.,

They're purple and white flowers.

I guess wild.

I weed sprayed them numerous times up to about 5 or six years ago.

I've mowed there and let grass grow for years.

They never went away.

Soon as I start gardening, they come back with a vengeance.

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"Derald" wrote in message
...

"DogDiesel" wrote:

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.
Pull them early and pull them often. The seedlings are easy to spot. This
is some else's photo of some "improved" variety but seedlings of the
noxious
natives look very similar:
http://aardvarque.com/2006/11/27/DSCN2032.JPG/view
--
Derald
FL USDA zone 9a
http://www.onlineconversion.com/


They even took over my mulch bin. I cant see it.

But a scrap tomato plant is growing there , I threw in there last year. and
the tomatoes are awesome.

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:31:46 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"Derald" wrote in message
...

"DogDiesel" wrote:

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.
Pull them early and pull them often. The seedlings are easy to spot. This
is some else's photo of some "improved" variety but seedlings of the
noxious
natives look very similar:
http://aardvarque.com/2006/11/27/DSCN2032.JPG/view
--
Derald
FL USDA zone 9a
http://www.onlineconversion.com/


They even took over my mulch bin. I cant see it.

But a scrap tomato plant is growing there , I threw in there last year. and
the tomatoes are awesome.



You have to pull them up or spray them before they set seeds. The
earlier the better. Earlier is also easier to pull up. And never
turn them under.
--
USA
North Carolina Foothills
USDA Zone 7a
To find your extension office
http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/index.html

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"The Cook" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:31:46 -0400, "DogDiesel"
wrote:


"Derald" wrote in message
...

"DogDiesel" wrote:

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.
Pull them early and pull them often. The seedlings are easy to spot.
This
is some else's photo of some "improved" variety but seedlings of the
noxious
natives look very similar:
http://aardvarque.com/2006/11/27/DSCN2032.JPG/view
--
Derald
FL USDA zone 9a
http://www.onlineconversion.com/


They even took over my mulch bin. I cant see it.

But a scrap tomato plant is growing there , I threw in there last year.
and
the tomatoes are awesome.



You have to pull them up or spray them before they set seeds. The
earlier the better. Earlier is also easier to pull up. And never
turn them under.
--
USA
North Carolina Foothills
USDA Zone 7a
To find your extension office
http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/index.html


Yes, well, they been turned under numerous times.

What really killed it this year is I got sick for three weeks and let
it go.

I could of done a better job.

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In article ,
says...
So, my tomatoes did good. But morning glories took over again.

And killed the corn.

green beans survived. on a fence.

eggplant excellent.

peppers excellent

no bug issues.

I've got worms and toads back in play.

But I cant get a grip on these F-ing morning glories.

Suggestions.


Diesel.

Do you mean ipomoea, calystegia or convolvulus arvensis, or a
combination of all three? (morning glory, false bindweed, field
bindweed)(know your enemy))

We have all three but we -like- morning glories.

With mowing, weed whacking and weeding along with keeping a number of
garden thugs where we neither weed, weed whack or mow, all three
convolvulus types stay under relatively good control. ---YMMV, but we
feel no need to use glyphosate as David suggested and morning glories on
the rabbit fence around the vegetable garden impresses neighbours and
garden tourists.

Inventiveness, diligent weeding and preventing the vines from scattering
seed matters.

There is a reserve of dormant seed in the soil ...and arvensis seed can
germinate after 28 years in the soil.

---That would be right after you've used a toxin, think your garden is
free and clear, and believe you don't have to keep weeding.

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In article ,
says...


They come back every year for about 20 years now. I got them from horse
manure from horses eating in open fields.,

They're purple and white flowers.

I guess wild.

I weed sprayed them numerous times up to about 5 or six years ago.

I've mowed there and let grass grow for years.

They never went away.

Soon as I start gardening, they come back with a vengeance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolvulus

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In article ,
phorbin wrote:



We have all three but we -like- morning glories.


Morning glories make great cut flowers. Drape a vine off a shelf and
it adds another dimension to your space. Very Japanese tea aesthetic.

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden

http://www.wordnik.com/

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In article ,
says...

phorbin wrote:

Do you mean ipomoea, calystegia or convolvulus arvensis, or a
combination of all three? (morning glory, false bindweed, field
bindweed)(know your enemy))

We have all three but we -like- morning glories.

It seems to me that you put too fine a point on it: All are Convolvulaceae.
The differences among them are purely academic. All have the same invasive
growth habit. I don't believe most people can or do distinguish among them. I
can't speak for anyone else but I certainly make no distinction when pulling the
seedlings. Many (if not most), including some morning glories, are classified as
invasive noxious weeds by USDA and among the states and for good reason. Some of
us do not "like" morning glories.

Maybe so, but arvensis, is a tough persistent perennial and the worst of
the lot in our zone 5 climate. It's the weed we work hardest on.

I figure that if you don't know the enemy you wind up in one kind of
trouble or another either working too hard or not hard enough.

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"phorbin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


They come back every year for about 20 years now. I got them from
horse
manure from horses eating in open fields.,

They're purple and white flowers.

I guess wild.

I weed sprayed them numerous times up to about 5 or six years ago.

I've mowed there and let grass grow for years.

They never went away.

Soon as I start gardening, they come back with a vengeance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolvulus



Bingo, I got four different color ones. The bind weed, the dwarf , and two
others .

Diesel.

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"phorbin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

phorbin wrote:

Do you mean ipomoea, calystegia or convolvulus arvensis, or a
combination of all three? (morning glory, false bindweed, field
bindweed)(know your enemy))

We have all three but we -like- morning glories.

It seems to me that you put too fine a point on it: All are
Convolvulaceae.
The differences among them are purely academic. All have the same
invasive
growth habit. I don't believe most people can or do distinguish among
them. I
can't speak for anyone else but I certainly make no distinction when
pulling the
seedlings. Many (if not most), including some morning glories, are
classified as
invasive noxious weeds by USDA and among the states and for good reason.
Some of
us do not "like" morning glories.

Maybe so, but arvensis, is a tough persistent perennial and the worst of
the lot in our zone 5 climate. It's the weed we work hardest on.

I figure that if you don't know the enemy you wind up in one kind of
trouble or another either working too hard or not hard enough.


I've got four different colors , now that I got this reference. white
bindweed , the dwarf tri color one. a purple one . pinkish one,

Diesel.

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DogDiesel wrote:
"phorbin" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


They come back every year for about 20 years now. I got them from
horse
manure from horses eating in open fields.,

They're purple and white flowers.

I guess wild.

I weed sprayed them numerous times up to about 5 or six years ago.

I've mowed there and let grass grow for years.

They never went away.

Soon as I start gardening, they come back with a vengeance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolvulus



Bingo, I got four different color ones. The bind weed, the dwarf ,
and two others .


I've found that a couple applications of roundup take care of them.