Hops
 

Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so apologies
to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

Steve

Hops
 

Steve B wrote:

Does anyone here grow hops?

My SIL in Portland, OR grows a trelise of them. They flowered just fine
the last time I saw them.

I don't know if your geography is too dry or hot for them.

I don't know if you can eat them, so apologies
to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

Herbs of various sorts are on topic for the group.

Let's see if I understand hops correctly - Like apples they do not breed
true so if you grow them from seed there is a very low chance the plant
will grow hops that taste good brewed into beer. As a result nearly all
hops are grown from cuttings or root stock of known good plants.

Hops
 

Doug Freyburger wrote:

As a result nearly all
hops are grown from cuttings or root stock of known good plants.

The good news is that hops grow like weeds from root cuttings, so are dead
easy to propagate. And they generally reach the second-story window by
mid-summer!


--
Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/4 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

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"Gary Woods" wrote in message
...
Doug Freyburger wrote:

As a result nearly all
hops are grown from cuttings or root stock of known good plants.

The good news is that hops grow like weeds from root cuttings, so are dead
easy to propagate. And they generally reach the second-story window by
mid-summer!


--
Gary Woods

Like with doctors, I don't always divulge all the information just to see
how good they really are .................

You guys seem to be knowledgeable, so ................

I live at 3700' elev, and am in a 5A USDA agricultural zone. It gets damn
hot here in the summer, and damn cold in the winter, but there are spaces in
between that are just beautiful. Not sure the time to ripeness for hops,
but maybe that additional bit of info may help.

It could be fun, but then, maybe not worth it at the cost of good hops from
all over the world at beer brew sites. AND, the longevity of storage.

As for so much garden stuff, a lot of it is the fun of growing it yourself,
and not actually in cost savings. Unless, of course, one could raise a
strain that was better one way or the other, and grew good in my location.
A few hundred feet of elevation, or a little difference here and there can
make a lot of difference in the final harvest.

Thanks for the info, people.

Steve

Hops
 

Steve B wrote:
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.


OK, what recipes? Other that beer?

Hops
 

"Bob F" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.


OK, what recipes? Other that beer?

None I know of.

Class?

Class? .........................

"Beer is proof God loves us." - Benjamin Franklin _

Isn't beer a food group? .......................

Steve

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"Bob F" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.


OK, what recipes? Other that beer?

From a quick google search, looks like there's a bread recipe. I'm sure
there has to be more, probably in underdeveloped countries where they will
eat ANYTHING.

Steve

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"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

Hops
 

FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And since hops are used in beer , I consider them edible . My non-drinking
Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I have no idea why or
what she used them for , but she wouldn't have let them grow if she didn't
have a use for 'em .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

Hops
 

In article , "Snag"
wrote:

FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And since hops are used in beer , I consider them edible . My non-drinking
Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I have no idea why or
what she used them for , but she wouldn't have let them grow if she didn't
have a use for 'em .

Used as a sleep aid.

http://www.google.com/search?client=...illow&ie=UTF-8
&oe=UTF-8

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden

http://marshallmcluhanspeaks.com/

Hops used for anything other than beer is a waste of hops!

Hops
 

On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:30:16 -0700, "Steve B" wrote:


"Bob F" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.


OK, what recipes? Other that beer?

From a quick google search, looks like there's a bread recipe.


Beer is liquid bread!
On your hops question, I'm in USDA 5B (Southern Ontario, Canada) but
only at about 1000' elevation.
When I was brewing my own I had 5 different varieties growing on
trellises and they did exceptionally well here. The bines easily
topped out their 14' trellises and kept on growing.
They will spread via underground runners and are very easy to
propagate that way.
I did try ''wet hopping'' but IMO, they don't work well for beer when
freshly picked and must be dried.
You can supposedly make a very effective sleep pillow using hops but I
found when using them to brew beer, the end product was also a very
good sleep aid.

Ross.

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Ross@home wrote in


Beer is liquid bread!

There is an antique beer bottle from the turn of the century called "Liquid
Bread". It is unique because the bottles were cobalt blue glass, a beauty
as a stand alone bottle. With the label, they are VERY valuable.

Steve

Hops
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And your point is?

What is the punishment for this?

Steve

Hops
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
.. .

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And your point is?

What is the punishment for this?

Steve


I read that reply as telling the OP that the post was on topic, and as there
was only one line I had no need to read between them.

Mike

Hops
 

FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

Fair go Fran, yiou are being a bit harsh here.

D

Hops
 

"Snag" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And since hops are used in beer , I consider them edible . My non-drinking
Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I have no idea why or
what she used them for , but she wouldn't have let them grow if she didn't
have a use for 'em .

The tips of the hops are edible and the hop flowers are used when making
home made yeast. Did she bake her own bread?

Hops
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And your point is?

You can't see any connection with how you started this thread and what I
wrote?

What is the punishment for this?

None, but I am amused that for the second time in this thread you seek
admonishmnet.

Hops
 

"Bloke Down The Pub" wrote in message "Steve
B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And your point is?

What is the punishment for this?

Steve


I read that reply as telling the OP that the post was on topic, and as
there was only one line I had no need to read between them.

:-))

Hops
 

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

Fair go Fran, yiou are being a bit harsh here.

LOL. It was a bit mean to expect Steve to figure out that what I wrote was
a direct response to what he wrote. I always forget that responses should
always be tangential and should bear no relation to what is asked.

Hops
 

In article ,
"Steve B" wrote:

Ross@home wrote in


Beer is liquid bread!

There is an antique beer bottle from the turn of the century called "Liquid
Bread". It is unique because the bottles were cobalt blue glass, a beauty
as a stand alone bottle. With the label, they are VERY valuable.

Steve

And, in Germany it is still referred to as "flussig brot" (liquid bread).
As far as blue bottles, you may enjoy Bombay Sapphire dry gin which
comes in a blue bottle, as does a number of German wines (which are very
affordable). But this is going a bit far a field for "wrecked" edible
gardens.
--
- Billy

E pluribus unum

Hops
 

In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
...
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And your point is?

You can't see any connection with how you started this thread and what I
wrote?

What is the punishment for this?

None, but I am amused that for the second time in this thread you seek
admonishmnet.

I've really missed you, ya know? ;O))
--
- Billy

E pluribus unum

Hops
 

In article , says...
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And since hops are used in beer , I consider them edible . My non-drinking
Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I have no idea why or
what she used them for , but she wouldn't have let them grow if she didn't
have a use for 'em .


http://www.pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?...umulus+lupulus

Hops
 

FarmI wrote:
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

Fair go Fran, yiou are being a bit harsh here.

LOL. It was a bit mean to expect Steve to figure out that what I
wrote was a direct response to what he wrote. I always forget that
responses should always be tangential and should bear no relation to
what is asked.

The meaning is not as clear as you seem to think. It isn't important,
nevermind.

D

If you are growing hops as a crop, it is normal with to thin out the young shoots to 1 or 2 per pole. The thinned out young shoots can be cooked and eaten like asparagus. Any later in the season and they will be too tough to use as a vegetable. I do have a hop patch in the garden, for ornamental reasons, and keep on saying I will try it one year, because I read it is delicious.

In regions where the beer is pilsener style, only female hops are grown, and the fruiting bodies are unfertilised. In fact growing a male hop plant is illegal and subject to large fines in some of these regions, since the pollenisation can occur over a distance of up to about 10km, and even a few fertilised fruits will taint the crop. For this reason alone, seeds are not readily available, and propagation must be vegetative in these regions. If you live in such a region, you won't even be able to buy a male hop.

Here in Britain we allow our hops to fraternise, and the hop fruit is fertilised and contains fertile seeds. This has a much more bitter taste, and is one of the factors that makes British ale such a distinctive product from the continental pilseners. Pilseners are manufactured in Britain, but probably they have to import the hops, or more likely a hop extract, to do it.

Hops
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

Fair go Fran, yiou are being a bit harsh here.

LOL. It was a bit mean to expect Steve to figure out that what I wrote
was a direct response to what he wrote. I always forget that responses
should always be tangential and should bear no relation to what is asked.

And when that fails, civility and common sense sometime work.

Steve

Hops
 

FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

And since hops are used in beer , I consider them edible . My
non-drinking Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I
have no idea why or what she used them for , but she wouldn't have
let them grow if she didn't have a use for 'em .

The tips of the hops are edible and the hop flowers are used when
making home made yeast. Did she bake her own bread?

Not only her own , she was a cook at the local high school for many years
.. I've heard she was very good , I do know that Sunday Dinner at Granny's
house was something I never missed willingly .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

Hops
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Does anyone here grow hops? I don't know if you can eat them, so
apologies to netnannies, but they sure are good in certain recipes.

This group is called rec.gardens.edible

Fair go Fran, yiou are being a bit harsh here.

LOL. It was a bit mean to expect Steve to figure out that what I wrote
was a direct response to what he wrote. I always forget that responses
should always be tangential and should bear no relation to what is asked.

And when that fails, civility and common sense sometime work.

Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that how
people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

Hops
 

"Snag" wrote in message
...
FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message

My
non-drinking Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I
have no idea why or what she used them for , but she wouldn't have
let them grow if she didn't have a use for 'em .

The tips of the hops are edible and the hop flowers are used when
making home made yeast. Did she bake her own bread?

Not only her own , she was a cook at the local high school for many years
. I've heard she was very good , I do know that Sunday Dinner at Granny's
house was something I never missed willingly .

As you say, she wouldn't have grown them if she didn't have a use for them
so now I'm wondering about that bread. Do you know if she made her own
yeast? Can you remember if she had a pottery crock or a bottle that she set
in a warm place and in which she made her yeast using hops, potato, flour
and sugar? She wouldn't have refrigerated it and it isn't a sourdough -
it's a hop yeast that is quite and old fashioned recipe.

Hops
 

FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message
...
FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message

My
non-drinking Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I
have no idea why or what she used them for , but she wouldn't have
let them grow if she didn't have a use for 'em .

The tips of the hops are edible and the hop flowers are used when
making home made yeast. Did she bake her own bread?

Not only her own , she was a cook at the local high school for many
years . I've heard she was very good , I do know that Sunday Dinner
at Granny's house was something I never missed willingly .

As you say, she wouldn't have grown them if she didn't have a use for
them so now I'm wondering about that bread. Do you know if she made
her own yeast? Can you remember if she had a pottery crock or a
bottle that she set in a warm place and in which she made her yeast
using hops, potato, flour and sugar? She wouldn't have refrigerated
it and it isn't a sourdough - it's a hop yeast that is quite and old
fashioned recipe.

She may very well have made her own yeast , but I was a small child at
that time . I do remember a pottery crock that she made pickles in . Crunchy
dills , and some of the best "bread and butter" pickles you ever ate . I
wish we had her recipes , but Dad's brother snatched all that when she
passed . Along with a lot of other stuff .
--
Snag
Pickled beets too , and they had a garden the size of a city building lot
.... Gramps plowed it with his Ford 9N every spring .

Hops
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that how
people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Steve

Hops
 

In article ,
"Steve B" wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that how
people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Steve

Q.E.D.
--
- Billy

E pluribus unum

Hops
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that how
people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Dig? Who needs to 'dig'. You may suffer from short term memory loss but
you wrote your comment only a short time ago so your post is still showing
up on my screen.

And as for my needing to get a life, that tired old attempt at an insult was
exactly what you told the other poster when you told him/her they were
stupid.

Hops
 

"Snag" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message
...
FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message

My
non-drinking Mormon Granny had a patch of hops in the back yard . I
have no idea why or what she used them for , but she wouldn't have
let them grow if she didn't have a use for 'em .

The tips of the hops are edible and the hop flowers are used when
making home made yeast. Did she bake her own bread?

Not only her own , she was a cook at the local high school for many
years . I've heard she was very good , I do know that Sunday Dinner
at Granny's house was something I never missed willingly .

As you say, she wouldn't have grown them if she didn't have a use for
them so now I'm wondering about that bread. Do you know if she made
her own yeast? Can you remember if she had a pottery crock or a
bottle that she set in a warm place and in which she made her yeast
using hops, potato, flour and sugar? She wouldn't have refrigerated
it and it isn't a sourdough - it's a hop yeast that is quite and old
fashioned recipe.

She may very well have made her own yeast , but I was a small child at
that time . I do remember a pottery crock that she made pickles in .
Crunchy dills , and some of the best "bread and butter" pickles you ever
ate .
I
wish we had her recipes , but Dad's brother snatched all that when she
passed . Along with a lot of other stuff .

Are relations with that line of the family strained or cordial enough for
you to contact whoever now has the recipes and ask if you can copy them?

Even if you don't want to do that, I'm sure you would still be able to find
recipes for the same things she made on the Net. I collect old cookbooks
(in a casual and desultory way) a nd I know those sorts of recipes and
others I'm sure she'd also have made appear in early to mid 20th century
cookbooks.

Hops
 

FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message
I wish we had her Grandma's , that part got snippedrecipes , but Dad's
brother snatched all that when
she passed . Along with a lot of other stuff .

Are relations with that line of the family strained or cordial enough
for you to contact whoever now has the recipes and ask if you can
copy them?

They're all Mormons , and to both sides of my family -with the exception
of my one surviving brother- I no longer exist since I left the church .

Even if you don't want to do that, I'm sure you would still be able
to find recipes for the same things she made on the Net. I collect
old cookbooks (in a casual and desultory way) a nd I know those sorts
of recipes and others I'm sure she'd also have made appear in early
to mid 20th century cookbooks.

I might be able to find similar recipes if I looked , but we also have the
wife's family as a source . Most of them are Southern Baptists and almost as
rabid as Mormons , but I haven't alienated them . Yet .
--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

Hops
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that
how people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Dig? Who needs to 'dig'. You may suffer from short term memory loss but
you wrote your comment only a short time ago so your post is still showing
up on my screen.

And as for my needing to get a life, that tired old attempt at an insult
was exactly what you told the other poster when you told him/her they were
stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. Ruminating over old posts and he said she said is
stupid.

Do you have anything to say about the subject line?

Steve

Hops
 

In article ,
"Steve B" wrote:

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that
how people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Dig? Who needs to 'dig'. You may suffer from short term memory loss but
you wrote your comment only a short time ago so your post is still showing
up on my screen.

And as for my needing to get a life, that tired old attempt at an insult
was exactly what you told the other poster when you told him/her they were
stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. Ruminating over old posts and he said she said is
stupid.

Do you have anything to say about the subject line?

Steve

Yeah, I think it has come to an end.
--
- Billy

E pluribus unum

Hops
 

"Snag" wrote in message
FarmI wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message
I wish we had her Grandma's , that part got snippedrecipes , but Dad's
brother snatched all that when
she passed . Along with a lot of other stuff .

Are relations with that line of the family strained or cordial enough
for you to contact whoever now has the recipes and ask if you can
copy them?

They're all Mormons , and to both sides of my family -with the exception
of my one surviving brother- I no longer exist since I left the church .

Even if you don't want to do that, I'm sure you would still be able
to find recipes for the same things she made on the Net. I collect
old cookbooks (in a casual and desultory way) a nd I know those sorts
of recipes and others I'm sure she'd also have made appear in early
to mid 20th century cookbooks.

I might be able to find similar recipes if I looked , but we also have
the wife's family as a source . Most of them are Southern Baptists and
almost as rabid as Mormons , but I haven't alienated them . Yet .

LOL. So, what's stopping you looking for those recipes (other than a touch
of sloth)?

Hops
 

"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to throw
their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is that
how people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Dig? Who needs to 'dig'. You may suffer from short term memory loss but
you wrote your comment only a short time ago so your post is still
showing up on my screen.

And as for my needing to get a life, that tired old attempt at an insult
was exactly what you told the other poster when you told him/her they
were stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Yep. You were very stupid to mention being civil and using common sense
after your recent posting history.

Hops
 

"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote in message
u...
"Steve B" wrote in message
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote


Are you the very same Steve B who recently told another poster to
throw their computer away because they were too stupid to own one? Is
that how people calling themselves Steve B act to demonstrate being
civil?

You got the time to go and dig all that old stuff up?

You seriously need to get a life.

Dig? Who needs to 'dig'. You may suffer from short term memory loss
but you wrote your comment only a short time ago so your post is still
showing up on my screen.

And as for my needing to get a life, that tired old attempt at an insult
was exactly what you told the other poster when you told him/her they
were stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Yep. You were very stupid to mention being civil and using common sense
after your recent posting history.

And you're a pompous gasbag who has nothing more to do in life than sit at a
keyboard and **** and moan and gossip.

Kiss off.

Steve