On 11/02/2015 1:41 AM, songbird wrote:
Fran Farmer wrote:
songbird wrote:
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some people have a hard time giving up any of their
children...

Nah. She's just a bitch. She was given a whole lot of fibre and told
to pass it on to the member of a group of spinners to which I belong and
she kept the lot. The person who asked her to pass it on was livid.

ah well, i'm sure she won't be given a second
chance on that score. sad.

She's been given a number of chances and sadly her unmarried daughter
(who lives with here) is becoming just like she is. But it is sad.
They are turning into hoarders and becoming isolated from the community.

On 11/02/2015 1:40 AM, songbird wrote:
David Hare-Scott wrote:
songbird wrote:
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do the stalks make good sturdy stakes?

The stalks are like softish wood, they take a while to rot down in compost
so they might make a stake for a year or two. I wouldn't describe them as
sturdy.

sounds similar to the sunflower stalks, but perhaps
straighter. the sunflowers have such heavy heads that
the stalks end up bent over and not very tall.

all they have to do is hold up for a year or two.
but likely i'll not put them in here. i don't need
another invasive...

But at least they are pretty in their invasiveness, unlike ivy.