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Grapes
The area where I live (New England) has many wild grapes. I am told these are
Concord grapes. However, I have noticed while most have the usual serated pear-shaped or spear-shaped leaves, a few will grow leaves that become three-pronged (trident) shaped. What is the difference between these two types? Which is what? Are the trident leaves representative of a different species of grape or just some phase that Concord grapes go through? Thank You |
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This is not an answer to your question but I was taught that grapes are not
native to New England. Growing up in Connecticut we learned that grapes were imports to the continent as were the settlers. The state motto of Connecticut is "Qui Transtulit Sustinet" (He who transplanted them still sustains them.) The Connecticut flag has three grape vines on it. "ChrisV01" wrote in message ... The area where I live (New England) has many wild grapes. I am told these are Concord grapes. However, I have noticed while most have the usual serated pear-shaped or spear-shaped leaves, a few will grow leaves that become three-pronged (trident) shaped. What is the difference between these two types? Which is what? Are the trident leaves representative of a different species of grape or just some phase that Concord grapes go through? Thank You |
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"Tom Eisenman" sorry@absolutelynospam wrote in message ... This is not an answer to your question but I was taught that grapes are not native to New England. Growing up in Connecticut we learned that grapes were imports to the continent as were the settlers. The state motto of Connecticut is "Qui Transtulit Sustinet" (He who transplanted them still sustains them.) The Connecticut flag has three grape vines on it. Here's a link about wild grapes. http://newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/200-299/nb204.htm If Leif Ericsson saw them in 1000 AD, and was impressed enough to name the place Vinland, then they must already have been native to the Americas. But the "native" zinfandel grape turns out to be Croatian: http://www.startribune.com/stories/438/3323710.html "ChrisV01" wrote in message ... The area where I live (New England) has many wild grapes. I am told these are Concord grapes. However, I have noticed while most have the usual serated pear-shaped or spear-shaped leaves, a few will grow leaves that become three-pronged (trident) shaped. What is the difference between these two types? Which is what? Are the trident leaves representative of a different species of grape or just some phase that Concord grapes go through? In Arkansas wild grapes have 3-pronged leaves. |
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"ChrisV01" wrote ... The area where I live (New England) has many wild grapes. I am told these are Concord grapes. However, I have noticed while most have the usual serated pear-shaped or spear-shaped leaves, a few will grow leaves that become three-pronged (trident) shaped. What is the difference between these two types? Which is what? Are the trident leaves representative of a different species of grape or just some phase that Concord grapes go through? I bought a Concord grape vine some years back (it was supposed to be seedless, but wasn't). There are also wild grape vines nearby. I see both types of leaves. My guess is that the 3-pronged ones are native and the spearhead-shaped ones are hybridized, since that is the leaf shape that the cultivated Concord vine has. |
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