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Aria 12-03-2004 02:02 AM

Cilantro
 
Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



Janice 12-03-2004 05:05 AM

Cilantro
 
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:50:51 -0700, "Aria"
wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


Cilantro=Corriander. All I know is the greenhouse had some in bloom,
I sniffed the flower and it was like an ice pick went up my nose into
my brain, the pain was immediate and intense. I'll not grow it in my
yard! LOL

Janice


Meagan M Eller 12-03-2004 01:02 PM

Cilantro
 
Janice wrote:
Cilantro=Corriander. All I know is the greenhouse had some in bloom,
I sniffed the flower and it was like an ice pick went up my nose into
my brain, the pain was immediate and intense. I'll not grow it in my
yard! LOL


Janice


I have actually grown it. I always like to experiment with new herbs. I am
not a big fan of it as a cooking herb, but it was fine in the garden. I
actually only grew it one season, then decided it was taking up limited
space when there were other herbs I would rather grow that were actually
useful for me.

I really don't have advice, as I don't know why mine grew. It was planted
in full sun, I watered it. I guess the soil was good, as all the herbs in
that area did well. I take a low maintenance approach to most of my
gardening - I try not to mess with plants that look like they are doing
fine. I may not have prize-winners, but I don't get frustrated.

Meagan

Meagan M Eller 12-03-2004 01:13 PM

Cilantro
 
Janice wrote:
Cilantro=Corriander. All I know is the greenhouse had some in bloom,
I sniffed the flower and it was like an ice pick went up my nose into
my brain, the pain was immediate and intense. I'll not grow it in my
yard! LOL


Janice


I have actually grown it. I always like to experiment with new herbs. I am
not a big fan of it as a cooking herb, but it was fine in the garden. I
actually only grew it one season, then decided it was taking up limited
space when there were other herbs I would rather grow that were actually
useful for me.

I really don't have advice, as I don't know why mine grew. It was planted
in full sun, I watered it. I guess the soil was good, as all the herbs in
that area did well. I take a low maintenance approach to most of my
gardening - I try not to mess with plants that look like they are doing
fine. I may not have prize-winners, but I don't get frustrated.

Meagan

DigitalVinyl 15-03-2004 02:18 AM

Cilantro
 
"Aria" wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener

DigitalVinyl 15-03-2004 02:32 AM

Cilantro
 
"Aria" wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener

Ray Drouillard 15-03-2004 03:23 AM

Cilantro
 

"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message
...
"Aria" wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both

inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


What's your definition of 'a lot of seed', and 'many plants'?

My usual problem is to keep it from going to seed. Once it starts to
bolt, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, once it starts to
bolt, the flavor gets stronger and the stems get tougher.

The plant has flat white flower clusters, and one flower gets you one
seed. Unless you are really pressed for space, the simplest thing to do
is to plant one package of seeds and watch what it does. That should
get you more seeds than you are likely to use in a year.


Ray Drouillard




Ray Drouillard 15-03-2004 03:46 AM

Cilantro
 

"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message
...
"Aria" wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both

inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


What's your definition of 'a lot of seed', and 'many plants'?

My usual problem is to keep it from going to seed. Once it starts to
bolt, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, once it starts to
bolt, the flavor gets stronger and the stems get tougher.

The plant has flat white flower clusters, and one flower gets you one
seed. Unless you are really pressed for space, the simplest thing to do
is to plant one package of seeds and watch what it does. That should
get you more seeds than you are likely to use in a year.


Ray Drouillard




DigitalVinyl 15-03-2004 04:12 AM

Cilantro
 
"Ray Drouillard" wrote:


"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message
.. .
"Aria" wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both

inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


What's your definition of 'a lot of seed', and 'many plants'?

What? my terms aren't vague enough for you? :-)

My usual problem is to keep it from going to seed. Once it starts to
bolt, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, once it starts to
bolt, the flavor gets stronger and the stems get tougher.

Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt
quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming.
My problem is I have no clue what we're talking about. Never grown
before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic
petunia seeds. It could have a habit like dill with dozens of seeds
per floret and a dozen florets per plant. I will squeeze in what I
can--yes I am limited by land and what I'm willing to maintain. Have
to check on the growth habit--don't know what spacing they prefer.

The plant has flat white flower clusters, and one flower gets you one
seed. Unless you are really pressed for space, the simplest thing to do
is to plant one package of seeds and watch what it does. That should
get you more seeds than you are likely to use in a year.

Well we used 1.25 oz wt(4 inch tall McCormick jar) in the last 5-6
months. Discovered how good it works in a rub on beef cuts.

Thanks.
Ray Drouillard



DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener

Henriette Kress 15-03-2004 09:32 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:

Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt
quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming.


You'll get seeds faster if it bolts faster, but not more of them.
You'll get more seeds if you let it grow more leaf.

Never grown
before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic
petunia seeds.


You do realize that you could use seeds out of your spice jar for your
coriander needs? Those round balls are two seeds in one, the ones that
have split are one seed.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG * * * * * * * * * * *Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed


Loki 15-03-2004 09:36 AM

Cilantro
 
il Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:11:12 GMT, DigitalVinyl ha scritto:

"Aria" wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


I grew it once and it seeded pretty quickly. Lots of seeds. Like
dill.
-
Cheers,
Loki [ Brevity is the soul of wit. W.Shakespeare ]


Frogleg 15-03-2004 12:02 PM

Cilantro
 
On 15 Mar 2004 22:22:39 +1300, "Loki" wrote:

il Mon, 15 Mar 2004 02:11:12 GMT, DigitalVinyl ha scritto:

I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


I grew it once and it seeded pretty quickly. Lots of seeds. Like
dill.


Yes, Cilantro/coriander is a short-lived annual, and goes to seed
quickly. While the seeding habit is similar to dill -- a sort of
fountain of seed at the end of a stalk, the seeds are larger and
seedheads contain maybe 30 coriander pods. I never actually counted
either. :-) If you have coriander seeds on your spice shelf, these
will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod. You
can plant the whole pod and pinch off 1 of the 2 seedlings that
emerge, or break open the pods and plant single seeds. The entire
life-cycle in hot weather takes just a few weeks, so you can make
successive or staggered plantings over the summer.

Henriette Kress 15-03-2004 12:06 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG * * * * * * * * * * *Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed


Frogleg 15-03-2004 12:09 PM

Cilantro
 
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:50:51 -0700, "Aria"
wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


(I'm having a funny mental image of a healthy cilantro plant suddenly
collapsing like a cartoon weed after RoundUp.)

Here's a site that discusses 'how to grow' clearly.

http://chefsgarden.com/Cilantro.htm

DigitalVinyl 15-03-2004 02:31 PM

Cilantro
 
Henriette Kress wrote:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt
quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming.


You'll get seeds faster if it bolts faster, but not more of them.
You'll get more seeds if you let it grow more leaf.

Never grown
before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic
petunia seeds.


You do realize that you could use seeds out of your spice jar for your
coriander needs? Those round balls are two seeds in one, the ones that
have split are one seed.


I've bought ground coriander.

Henriette


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener

DigitalVinyl 15-03-2004 02:55 PM

Cilantro
 
Henriette Kress wrote:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt
quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming.


You'll get seeds faster if it bolts faster, but not more of them.
You'll get more seeds if you let it grow more leaf.

Never grown
before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic
petunia seeds.


You do realize that you could use seeds out of your spice jar for your
coriander needs? Those round balls are two seeds in one, the ones that
have split are one seed.


I've bought ground coriander.

Henriette


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener

DigitalVinyl 15-03-2004 02:55 PM

Cilantro
 
Henriette Kress wrote:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt
quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming.


You'll get seeds faster if it bolts faster, but not more of them.
You'll get more seeds if you let it grow more leaf.

Never grown
before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic
petunia seeds.


You do realize that you could use seeds out of your spice jar for your
coriander needs? Those round balls are two seeds in one, the ones that
have split are one seed.


I've bought ground coriander.

Henriette


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
2nd year gardener

Loki 15-03-2004 09:23 PM

Cilantro
 
il Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:54:06 GMT, Frogleg ha scritto:

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:50:51 -0700, "Aria"
wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


(I'm having a funny mental image of a healthy cilantro plant suddenly
collapsing like a cartoon weed after RoundUp.)

Here's a site that discusses 'how to grow' clearly.

http://chefsgarden.com/Cilantro.htm


heh, slow motion more like it. :-)
--
Cheers,
Loki [ Brevity is the soul of wit. W.Shakespeare ]


Ray Drouillard 16-03-2004 04:42 AM

Cilantro
 

"DigitalVinyl" wrote in message
...
"Ray Drouillard" wrote:


My usual problem is to keep it from going to seed. Once it starts to
bolt, there isn't much you can do about it. Also, once it starts to
bolt, the flavor gets stronger and the stems get tougher.

Since I don't care for the leaves AT ALL, I would want it to bolt
quicker. Let it bake in the sun if that's gonna get the seeds coming.
My problem is I have no clue what we're talking about. Never grown
before, so one seed could be the size of a pumpkin seed or microscopic
petunia seeds. It could have a habit like dill with dozens of seeds
per floret and a dozen florets per plant. I will squeeze in what I
can--yes I am limited by land and what I'm willing to maintain. Have
to check on the growth habit--don't know what spacing they prefer.


You can buy the whole seeds in some spice markets, or you can buy a
package of seeds. Either way, you'll be able to get a good look at what
you'll be harvesting in a couple months.

The seeds look like little grayish-brown balls perhaps 3 mm in diameter.


Ray




Frogleg 16-03-2004 02:32 PM

Cilantro
 
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.

Frogleg 16-03-2004 02:52 PM

Cilantro
 
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.

Frogleg 16-03-2004 02:56 PM

Cilantro
 
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:55:56 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.

Henriette Kress 16-03-2004 07:31 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.


Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.
The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette Kress 16-03-2004 07:31 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.


Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.
The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette Kress 16-03-2004 08:07 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.


Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.
The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette Kress 16-03-2004 08:07 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.


Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.


Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.
The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Frogleg 17-03-2004 12:38 PM

Cilantro
 
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:22:43 +0200, Henriette Kress
wrote:

Frogleg wrote:
Henriette Kress wrote:

Frogleg wrote:

will work (if they're not too old) to start your plants. As someone
else has posted, there are 2 small seeds inside each round pod.

Umm. No, those "pods" _are_ the seeds.
Two to each tiny ball; like all umbelliferae, coriander seeds, too, come
in pairs.


Umm, no. Coriander *is* in the Umbelliferae family because of its
umbrella-like flower/seed arrangement. So are parsley, carrot, celery,
and geranium. The round ball is the dried fruit of the plant, and
contains two seeds.


Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.


Carrot, parsley, dill, Pelargonium, celery and others.
The coriander ball is just two seeds, stuck together.


"Apiaceae (parsley family)."..."Ripe coriander fruits" (picture
caption)...
http://www-ang.kfunigraz.ac.at/~katz...?Cori_sat.html

"Coriander, an umbelliferous plant indigenous to southern
Europe"..."The fruit (so-called seeds) are of globular form, beaked,
finely ribbed, yellowish-brown 1/5 inch in diameter, with five
longitudinal ridges, separable into two halves (the mericarps), each
of which is concave internally and shows two broad, longitudinal oil
cells (vittae)."
http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/c/corian99.html

"Coriander (Coriandrum sativum L.) is an annual herb that belongs to
the carrot family (Umbelliferae)."..."The small white or pink flowers
are borne in compound umbels that measure approximately 1.6 in. (4 cm)
across. The fruits are nearly globular and consist of two,
single-seeded mericarp"

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/agdex121?opendocument

"Technically, these are the fruits, not the seeds, of coriander"
(caption for a picture of coriander fruit/seed) Lovely pictures on
this page, BTW.
http://web.odu.edu/webroot/instr/sci...ages/coriander

"The fruit of the coriander plant contains two seeds "
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...dspice&dbid=70


Umbelliferae

n : plants having flowers in umbels: parsley; carrot; anise; caraway;
celery; dill
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Umbelliferae

Umbel

n: A flat-topped or rounded flower cluster in which the individual
flower stalks arise from about the same point, as in the geranium,
milkweed, onion, and chive.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Umbel

Steve 17-03-2004 01:02 PM

Cilantro
 


Frogleg wrote:

"Apiaceae (parsley family)."..."Ripe coriander fruits" (picture
caption)...


Good job. I think it's time to rest your case. As a member of the
jury, I now see the light.

Steve


Steve 17-03-2004 01:12 PM

Cilantro
 


Frogleg wrote:

"Apiaceae (parsley family)."..."Ripe coriander fruits" (picture
caption)...


Good job. I think it's time to rest your case. As a member of the
jury, I now see the light.

Steve


Henriette Kress 17-03-2004 04:12 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:

Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.


Carrot, parsley, dill, Pelargonium, celery and others.


Pelargonium is in the Geraniaceae.

The Geraniaceae family is in the order Geraniales, class Magnoliopsida.
The Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) family is in the order Apiales, class
Magnoliopsida.

Apiaceae and Geraniaceae aren't all that closely related, botanically.
They're certainly far enough apart that a botanist who'd suggest that
Pelargonium belongs in the Apiaceae would be laughed out of the room.

Carrot has two seeds, stuck together; they separate when they mature.
Ditto for parsley, dill, celery and pretty much any Apiaceae I've seen
so far. Sure, they come in single seeds in your seed packet, and in
single seeds in your spice jar, but they grow in pairs, and mature in
pairs. Here's a nice illustration of your average umbellifer seed:
http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/see.gif
It's at the top of Howie's page:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html

Like I said, please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired
seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.

Thanks
Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette Kress 17-03-2004 04:34 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:

Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.


Carrot, parsley, dill, Pelargonium, celery and others.


Pelargonium is in the Geraniaceae.

The Geraniaceae family is in the order Geraniales, class Magnoliopsida.
The Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) family is in the order Apiales, class
Magnoliopsida.

Apiaceae and Geraniaceae aren't all that closely related, botanically.
They're certainly far enough apart that a botanist who'd suggest that
Pelargonium belongs in the Apiaceae would be laughed out of the room.

Carrot has two seeds, stuck together; they separate when they mature.
Ditto for parsley, dill, celery and pretty much any Apiaceae I've seen
so far. Sure, they come in single seeds in your seed packet, and in
single seeds in your spice jar, but they grow in pairs, and mature in
pairs. Here's a nice illustration of your average umbellifer seed:
http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/see.gif
It's at the top of Howie's page:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html

Like I said, please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired
seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.

Thanks
Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Henriette Kress 17-03-2004 05:29 PM

Cilantro
 
Frogleg wrote:

Heh. Both Pelargonium and Geranium are in the Geraniaceae.
Please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired seeds; there might
be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.


Carrot, parsley, dill, Pelargonium, celery and others.


Pelargonium is in the Geraniaceae.

The Geraniaceae family is in the order Geraniales, class Magnoliopsida.
The Apiaceae (Umbelliferae) family is in the order Apiales, class
Magnoliopsida.

Apiaceae and Geraniaceae aren't all that closely related, botanically.
They're certainly far enough apart that a botanist who'd suggest that
Pelargonium belongs in the Apiaceae would be laughed out of the room.

Carrot has two seeds, stuck together; they separate when they mature.
Ditto for parsley, dill, celery and pretty much any Apiaceae I've seen
so far. Sure, they come in single seeds in your seed packet, and in
single seeds in your spice jar, but they grow in pairs, and mature in
pairs. Here's a nice illustration of your average umbellifer seed:
http://home.teleport.com/~howieb/see.gif
It's at the top of Howie's page:
http://www.teleport.com/~howieb/howie.html

Like I said, please show me an umbellifer that doesn't have paired
seeds; there might be lots, but I haven't seen one yet.

Thanks
Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Aria 21-03-2004 02:50 AM

Cilantro
 
Thanks for the site....now I don't feel so bad since it states that Cilantro
is difficult to grow. Just had another one croak. I think it would be more
expedient to just buy it in the store!!!!

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:50:51 -0700, "Aria"
wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside

and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


(I'm having a funny mental image of a healthy cilantro plant suddenly
collapsing like a cartoon weed after RoundUp.)

Here's a site that discusses 'how to grow' clearly.

http://chefsgarden.com/Cilantro.htm




Aria 21-03-2004 03:33 AM

Cilantro
 
Thanks for the site....now I don't feel so bad since it states that Cilantro
is difficult to grow. Just had another one croak. I think it would be more
expedient to just buy it in the store!!!!

"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:50:51 -0700, "Aria"
wrote:

Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside

and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?


(I'm having a funny mental image of a healthy cilantro plant suddenly
collapsing like a cartoon weed after RoundUp.)

Here's a site that discusses 'how to grow' clearly.

http://chefsgarden.com/Cilantro.htm




Gary Flynn 26-03-2004 02:30 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
"Aria" wrote:


Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


You have to stagger it. It doesn't like heat. I just
buy it in the stores because its so plentiful and concentrate
on growing the things that taste better or that are hard to find.


Gary Flynn 26-03-2004 02:30 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
"Aria" wrote:


Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


You have to stagger it. It doesn't like heat. I just
buy it in the stores because its so plentiful and concentrate
on growing the things that taste better or that are hard to find.


Gary Flynn 26-03-2004 03:24 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
"Aria" wrote:


Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


You have to stagger it. It doesn't like heat. I just
buy it in the stores because its so plentiful and concentrate
on growing the things that taste better or that are hard to find.


Gary Flynn 26-03-2004 05:39 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
"Aria" wrote:


Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


You have to stagger it. It doesn't like heat. I just
buy it in the stores because its so plentiful and concentrate
on growing the things that taste better or that are hard to find.


Gary Flynn 26-03-2004 05:48 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
"Aria" wrote:


Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


You have to stagger it. It doesn't like heat. I just
buy it in the stores because its so plentiful and concentrate
on growing the things that taste better or that are hard to find.


Gary Flynn 26-03-2004 05:50 AM

Cilantro
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
"Aria" wrote:


Does anyone here try to grow it??? I've tried so many times both inside and
out. It always drops dead...Any suggestions?



I was just about to post a question about this... I'll just piggy back
mine on this discussion. I really can't stand cilantro, but I like
ground coriander. I was wondering if anyone grows Coriander/cilantro
for the seeds and if so, does the plant produce a lot of seed, or do
you need to grow many plants. I'm assuming it wil seed on the first
year.


You have to stagger it. It doesn't like heat. I just
buy it in the stores because its so plentiful and concentrate
on growing the things that taste better or that are hard to find.



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