Diogs where they don't belong
 

What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me?

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

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Diogs where they don't belong
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me?

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam.

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Fence your property.

Diogs where they don't belong
 

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam.

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"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

Diogs where they don't belong
 

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

C'mon.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam.

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Diogs where they don't belong
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from
coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there
as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises
at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

C'mon.


Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons.
Figure it out on your own then.

Diogs where they don't belong
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano...
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from
coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there
as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises
at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

C'mon.


Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons.
Figure it out on your own then.

Diogs where they don't belong
 

Stan Goodman wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming

into

my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as

the

spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at

me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?


C'mon.

I can attest to the effectiveness of the motion sprinkler. Dogs
certainly won't like it! Rabbits, squirrels, and racoons don't like it
either. I can't say the meter reader guy was overly impressed at our
old home. DH on more than one occasion got an additional shower along
with his morning coffee. I initially bought mine to protect our pond
but now am using it in the garden. Depending on your set-up, you may
need two to protect all areas. I move mine around a fair amount so the
critters don't get to accustomed to the direction the spray is coming
from. Another option may be a Fido electric fence around your garden.
That will be effective for whatever garden you put it around but won't
help much for your lawn and other unprotected areas. The last option I
can think of besides fencing is cayenne pepper either powdered or spray
solution. The downside is you have to reapply after a rain.

You might want to contact animal control for a more permanent solution.
If the dogs are not ferral yet running loose, animal control should be
able to fine the owners. Ferral dogs may be a health issue so animal
control should come out and catch them.

Diogs where they don't belong
 

Stan Goodman wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...

What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming

into

my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as

the

spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at

me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?


C'mon.

I can attest to the effectiveness of the motion sprinkler. Dogs
certainly won't like it! Rabbits, squirrels, and racoons don't like it
either. I can't say the meter reader guy was overly impressed at our
old home. DH on more than one occasion got an additional shower along
with his morning coffee. I initially bought mine to protect our pond
but now am using it in the garden. Depending on your set-up, you may
need two to protect all areas. I move mine around a fair amount so the
critters don't get to accustomed to the direction the spray is coming
from. Another option may be a Fido electric fence around your garden.
That will be effective for whatever garden you put it around but won't
help much for your lawn and other unprotected areas. The last option I
can think of besides fencing is cayenne pepper either powdered or spray
solution. The downside is you have to reapply after a rain.

You might want to contact animal control for a more permanent solution.
If the dogs are not ferral yet running loose, animal control should be
able to fine the owners. Ferral dogs may be a health issue so animal
control should come out and catch them.

Diogs where they don't belong
 

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:16:38 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from
coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there
as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises
at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

C'mon.


Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons.
Figure it out on your own then.

Thank you.

If someone has an idea involving a repellant substance, I would be happy to
hear it.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam.

To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do
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Diogs where they don't belong
 

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:29:15 UTC, nutNhoney opined:
Stan Goodman wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano...

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...

What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming

into

my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as

the

spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at

me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?


C'mon.

I can attest to the effectiveness of the motion sprinkler. Dogs
certainly won't like it! Rabbits, squirrels, and racoons don't like it
either. I can't say the meter reader guy was overly impressed at our
old home. DH on more than one occasion got an additional shower along
with his morning coffee. I initially bought mine to protect our pond
but now am using it in the garden. Depending on your set-up, you may
need two to protect all areas. I move mine around a fair amount so the
critters don't get to accustomed to the direction the spray is coming
from. Another option may be a Fido electric fence around your garden.
That will be effective for whatever garden you put it around but won't
help much for your lawn and other unprotected areas. The last option I
can think of besides fencing is cayenne pepper either powdered or spray
solution. The downside is you have to reapply after a rain.

Sprinklers are a solution that would occur only to people who live where
there is plenty of water. Here, the radio is forever telling me "Don't waste
a drop". I turn the spigot off while I am shaving, except when I need
actually to rinse the razor.

You might want to contact animal control for a more permanent solution.
If the dogs are not ferral yet running loose, animal control should be
able to fine the owners. Ferral dogs may be a health issue so animal
control should come out and catch them.

The Nature Protection Agency is responsible for animals in the wild; the
SPCA mostly accepts unwanted pets. Dogs bothering a householder would be a
police matter. I did report the matter to the police; they have other, more
pressing matters to deal with, and it is hard to fault them for not putting
a high priority on this one. That is why I thought to post the problem here.

I'll try the cayenne suggestion. Since there is no rain at all here during
the summer (from April through November and well into December), that may
help for most of the year, at the cost of a large package of ground cayenne
pepper. As for the winter -- by then, the magic of Operant Conditioning may
have persuaded the dogs that this is not a good place to visit.

Thanks for your comments.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam.

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Diogs where they don't belong
 

Diogs where they don't belong
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at
me?

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Electric fence. Works like a charm! Cheap, too.


Ray

Diogs where they don't belong
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"

opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from
coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and
there as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening
noises at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

C'mon.

What's wrong with motion sprinklers? They're harmless, and will
discourage most dogs.


Ray

Diogs where they don't belong
 

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:16:38 UTC, "Anonny Moose"

opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"

opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano...
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined:

"Stan Goodman" wrote in message
news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano...
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs
from
coming
into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here
and there
as
the
spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making
threatening noises
at
me?

Fence your property.

Not an option.


Motion sprinklers?

C'mon.


Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any
reasons.
Figure it out on your own then.

Thank you.

If someone has an idea involving a repellant substance, I would be
happy to
hear it.

Mark your territory the same way dogs do. Or, use something like old
cigar butts soaked in soapy water.


Ray