This is incredibly frustrating..

I see a ton of info squash vine borers, wilt, etc. but have so far
missed anything like a comprehensive solution to the bug problem..

My situation: I started 2 each spaghetti, butternut squash, melons of
various kinds including watermelon, etc. Pumpkins.

All are being decimated by some form of wilt or borer. Vines that died
and have been removed show no obvious sign of borer.. no holes near the
base, one vine I ripped open showed no worm inside.
Plants are fine one day, dead the next. Regular watering.

I have a lot of cucumber beetles in the garden and what I think are
harlequin bugs (flat, diamond shaped). Also a new bug that might be a
squash bug (shaped like the small bug spacecraft from Red Dwarf).

Even my butternut succumbed. I have some nerf-football sized melons,
but I doubt they will mature.

Details:
Plants were started inside, hardened off properly, planted into a
raised bed under black plastic and PAMPERED!!! Plants are 2-3 feet
apart, and the vines are sprawled all over one end of the garden. You
can't walk among the vines, so hand-crushing eggs/patrolling is
problematic. Should the vines be pruned to say 2 vines per plant?

I plan to build some cold-frame sized screen enclosures for vines next
year in the hope this might help me get a crop to maturity. I had one
good year at this location, the last 3 have been bugs-bugs-bugs.
Debris is pulled and burned, so shouldn't be overwintering the pests.
I'm even starting more in the hope the pests will be done by the time
the 2nd generation matures (if it can before frost).

I am trying floating row covers, but we get serious winds in my region
and all new frc are now tattered (tying over #9 wire).
Thanks for reading this far! Open to suggestions!!

Frustrated in Zone 4..

if the butternut has gone as well, it probably is that virus propagated
by the beetles. the wilt and the borers show different symptoms. The
wilt, as the name implies, starts with the leaves noticeably wilting.
The borers will show an extended rotting of the vine, with frass on the
ground nearby.The fact that you had only a first good year means that
the first year they were unable to find your squash, or were able to
find it late. Relocation to hundreds of feet away from current location
will give you one good year. frc is indeed your best bet, but make the
support stronger (may I suggest the clamps from Territorial Seeds, on
PVC tubing). You could also consider some insecticide, though someone
else will have to specify which.

You can't really keep them covered unless you're willing to hand pollinate.
I've read that planting radishes among the squashes repels the squash
borers. Just plant them and let them go to seed. (Pull before they drop the
seeds--you can eat the seed pods).

"gonzo" wrote in message
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This is incredibly frustrating..

I see a ton of info squash vine borers, wilt, etc. but have so far
missed anything like a comprehensive solution to the bug problem..

My situation: I started 2 each spaghetti, butternut squash, melons of
various kinds including watermelon, etc. Pumpkins.

All are being decimated by some form of wilt or borer. Vines that died
and have been removed show no obvious sign of borer.. no holes near the
base, one vine I ripped open showed no worm inside.
Plants are fine one day, dead the next. Regular watering.

I have a lot of cucumber beetles in the garden and what I think are
harlequin bugs (flat, diamond shaped). Also a new bug that might be a
squash bug (shaped like the small bug spacecraft from Red Dwarf).

Even my butternut succumbed. I have some nerf-football sized melons,
but I doubt they will mature.

Details:
Plants were started inside, hardened off properly, planted into a
raised bed under black plastic and PAMPERED!!! Plants are 2-3 feet
apart, and the vines are sprawled all over one end of the garden. You
can't walk among the vines, so hand-crushing eggs/patrolling is
problematic. Should the vines be pruned to say 2 vines per plant?

I plan to build some cold-frame sized screen enclosures for vines next
year in the hope this might help me get a crop to maturity. I had one
good year at this location, the last 3 have been bugs-bugs-bugs.
Debris is pulled and burned, so shouldn't be overwintering the pests.
I'm even starting more in the hope the pests will be done by the time
the 2nd generation matures (if it can before frost).

I am trying floating row covers, but we get serious winds in my region
and all new frc are now tattered (tying over #9 wire).
Thanks for reading this far! Open to suggestions!!

Frustrated in Zone 4..

gonzo wrote:

This is incredibly frustrating..

I see a ton of info squash vine borers, wilt, etc. but have so far
missed anything like a comprehensive solution to the bug problem..

My situation: I started 2 each spaghetti, butternut squash, melons of
various kinds including watermelon, etc. Pumpkins.

All are being decimated by some form of wilt or borer. Vines that died
and have been removed show no obvious sign of borer.. no holes near the
base, one vine I ripped open showed no worm inside.
Plants are fine one day, dead the next. Regular watering.

I have a lot of cucumber beetles in the garden and what I think are
harlequin bugs (flat, diamond shaped). Also a new bug that might be a
squash bug (shaped like the small bug spacecraft from Red Dwarf).

Even my butternut succumbed. I have some nerf-football sized melons,
but I doubt they will mature.

Details:
Plants were started inside, hardened off properly, planted into a
raised bed under black plastic and PAMPERED!!! Plants are 2-3 feet
apart, and the vines are sprawled all over one end of the garden. You
can't walk among the vines, so hand-crushing eggs/patrolling is
problematic. Should the vines be pruned to say 2 vines per plant?

I plan to build some cold-frame sized screen enclosures for vines next
year in the hope this might help me get a crop to maturity. I had one
good year at this location, the last 3 have been bugs-bugs-bugs.
Debris is pulled and burned, so shouldn't be overwintering the pests.
I'm even starting more in the hope the pests will be done by the time
the 2nd generation matures (if it can before frost).

I am trying floating row covers, but we get serious winds in my region
and all new frc are now tattered (tying over #9 wire).
Thanks for reading this far! Open to suggestions!!

Frustrated in Zone 4..

sounds like my garden every year, i think i live in the worlds WORST place
to grow cucurbit's. i decided after the fifth straight failure (this year)
that until i find a way to get something out of it, my garden soil is
better spent on something that will feed me and not every silly bug.

I have tried BT (many variations), different planting locations, companion
planting....the only thing i didn't try was a hot pepper/garlic spray,
maybe give that a try....who knows, you may get lucky.