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beard alage
Hi,
I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank. I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE would help, I don't have room for an SAE. I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work? or would this kill my plants as well? I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back. any further help? §tudz |
beard alage
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Hash: SHA1 Bottom posted. - -- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "§tudz" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank. I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE would help, I don't have room for an SAE. I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work? or would this kill my plants as well? I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back. any further help? §tudz A product by api called algae fix might work for you (lists black beard algae), it is supposedly safe for freshwater tanks with plants, don't know about invertebrates though (i.e. snails), or beneficial bacteria (filter). One other product by marc weiss called algae magic should be safe to try, it is 100% organic and will harm no other organisms in your tank other than algae. Sounds great, haven't tried any myself (haven't needed to), but keep in mind the experts here would tell you they (the products) would only turn your tank into a chemical soup (natural chemicals or not). Good luck and later! P.s. - I grew a little black beard like algae in one of my tanks because the lighting at that time was more intense (i.e. the light was 3 or 4 inches away from the plant I was growing, the light came through the side of my tank (glass side wall), and I have recently moved the light overhead but further away and the black beard algae gunk has been going away slowly but surely. Later! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.7.96rc1 iQD1AwUBQ5owDa2WfcjE5myzAQLJnQcApTvijtRx3HV4lEwdAX zDlIVuEjcKJuGH hUduti8vNVzhiDHDzAI1CJY2UQ5IzeYN2rfvI5ZINyOY+q5tV7 jWiQ4CJDzGFOly viCDWKdJOsXResgeP3foZyDcrwzDDrwL3wTsn6SpnL8CGhiK8T 2Ti+n9c/nVsUHf HXhdH9OHzbyqJM3PSbqhrN+W78oOlpSMGjA2fWwXh4hJ44kTEy hXTJpTarFFHKx1 02dqg449teUlmU7z14sXC4+j56TWSiqcMCDenS3mVNY8Kmeumi 3mi3x+puxicqt4 kkFwHSJouP4= =VJw1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
beard alage
Hi,
I had a bad experience with Algae killers, I lost half of my tank population and it said that it didn't harm fish, only inverterbrets... If you must use it, then make sure your KH is at about 7 otherwise, be ready with a net to remove the dead fish as they float to the surface... Why don't you try 50% water changes every week for about 6 weeks, it will remove any excess nutrients... "Daniel Morrow" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bottom posted. - -- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "§tudz" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank. I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE would help, I don't have room for an SAE. I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work? or would this kill my plants as well? I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back. any further help? §tudz A product by api called algae fix might work for you (lists black beard algae), it is supposedly safe for freshwater tanks with plants, don't know about invertebrates though (i.e. snails), or beneficial bacteria (filter). One other product by marc weiss called algae magic should be safe to try, it is 100% organic and will harm no other organisms in your tank other than algae. Sounds great, haven't tried any myself (haven't needed to), but keep in mind the experts here would tell you they (the products) would only turn your tank into a chemical soup (natural chemicals or not). Good luck and later! P.s. - I grew a little black beard like algae in one of my tanks because the lighting at that time was more intense (i.e. the light was 3 or 4 inches away from the plant I was growing, the light came through the side of my tank (glass side wall), and I have recently moved the light overhead but further away and the black beard algae gunk has been going away slowly but surely. Later! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.7.96rc1 iQD1AwUBQ5owDa2WfcjE5myzAQLJnQcApTvijtRx3HV4lEwdAX zDlIVuEjcKJuGH hUduti8vNVzhiDHDzAI1CJY2UQ5IzeYN2rfvI5ZINyOY+q5tV7 jWiQ4CJDzGFOly viCDWKdJOsXResgeP3foZyDcrwzDDrwL3wTsn6SpnL8CGhiK8T 2Ti+n9c/nVsUHf HXhdH9OHzbyqJM3PSbqhrN+W78oOlpSMGjA2fWwXh4hJ44kTEy hXTJpTarFFHKx1 02dqg449teUlmU7z14sXC4+j56TWSiqcMCDenS3mVNY8Kmeumi 3mi3x+puxicqt4 kkFwHSJouP4= =VJw1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
beard alage
rty double dosing flourish excel, it works!! i have used it before and its
actually good for your tank/plants as well "Justin" wrote in message ... Hi, I had a bad experience with Algae killers, I lost half of my tank population and it said that it didn't harm fish, only inverterbrets... If you must use it, then make sure your KH is at about 7 otherwise, be ready with a net to remove the dead fish as they float to the surface... Why don't you try 50% water changes every week for about 6 weeks, it will remove any excess nutrients... "Daniel Morrow" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bottom posted. - -- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com "§tudz" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank. I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE would help, I don't have room for an SAE. I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work? or would this kill my plants as well? I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back. any further help? §tudz A product by api called algae fix might work for you (lists black beard algae), it is supposedly safe for freshwater tanks with plants, don't know about invertebrates though (i.e. snails), or beneficial bacteria (filter). One other product by marc weiss called algae magic should be safe to try, it is 100% organic and will harm no other organisms in your tank other than algae. Sounds great, haven't tried any myself (haven't needed to), but keep in mind the experts here would tell you they (the products) would only turn your tank into a chemical soup (natural chemicals or not). Good luck and later! P.s. - I grew a little black beard like algae in one of my tanks because the lighting at that time was more intense (i.e. the light was 3 or 4 inches away from the plant I was growing, the light came through the side of my tank (glass side wall), and I have recently moved the light overhead but further away and the black beard algae gunk has been going away slowly but surely. Later! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - WinPT 0.7.96rc1 iQD1AwUBQ5owDa2WfcjE5myzAQLJnQcApTvijtRx3HV4lEwdAX zDlIVuEjcKJuGH hUduti8vNVzhiDHDzAI1CJY2UQ5IzeYN2rfvI5ZINyOY+q5tV7 jWiQ4CJDzGFOly viCDWKdJOsXResgeP3foZyDcrwzDDrwL3wTsn6SpnL8CGhiK8T 2Ti+n9c/nVsUHf HXhdH9OHzbyqJM3PSbqhrN+W78oOlpSMGjA2fWwXh4hJ44kTEy hXTJpTarFFHKx1 02dqg449teUlmU7z14sXC4+j56TWSiqcMCDenS3mVNY8Kmeumi 3mi3x+puxicqt4 kkFwHSJouP4= =VJw1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
beard alage
I have some 'Plant food' by King British.
would adding this help as well? |
beard alage
Some snails eat beard algae - and shrimps (Caridina or Neocaridina) help to avoid it. Phosphates: Do you feed life or frozen bloodworms? Please wait! any further help? Filter cycle established? To much O2? Not enough CO2? Not enough NH4/NO3? -- cu Marco I feed some freeze dried Bloodworm filters are fully cycled, as I said it was an established tank, which I planted, the alage has only just started to show up over the last month or so. As for Snails, I'm not a fan, they create a lot of waste, and they look an eye sore. IMO I don't have any air stones in the tank anymore. possibly not enough CO2 as I don't have an injector, but it is only a 15gal tank ( yes I know the CAE will grow too big for the tank ) as for nitrates, last time I checked they were at good levels. |
beard alage
Hi..
it says a SAE would help Some snails eat beard algae - and shrimps (Caridina or Neocaridina) help to avoid it. Phosphates: Do you feed life or frozen bloodworms? I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work? Please wait! any further help? Filter cycle established? To much O2? Not enough CO2? Not enough NH4/NO3? -- cu Marco |
beard alage
"§tudz" wrote in message ... Hi, I have a bad case of beard alage in my planted tank. I've read on the net it doesn't mean my water is bad, and it says a SAE would help, I don't have room for an SAE. I already have 4 octos and a CAE, would using a chemical algae killer work? or would this kill my plants as well? I've used the bleach method of dipping but it just comes back. any further help? §tudz Flourish Excel (carbon supplement) seems to be the one fix I've seen recommended, also higher CO2 levels are supposed to help. My BBA seemed to thrive when I started dosing Phosphates, but the plants are growing like crazy, so I can't complain. I've increased my CO2 levels to about 35 PPM and the BBA seems to be in check. My Otos don't touch BBA, but they may prefer the GSA (Green Spot Algae). I'll be adding some SAEs in a few days, I'm hoping they will turn the tide. Give your CAE a chance. |
beard alage
"Bill Stock" wrote in message ... Flourish Excel (carbon supplement) seems to be the one fix I've seen recommended, also higher CO2 levels are supposed to help. My BBA seemed to thrive when I started dosing Phosphates, but the plants are growing like crazy, so I can't complain. I've increased my CO2 levels to about 35 PPM and the BBA seems to be in check. My Otos don't touch BBA, but they may prefer the GSA (Green Spot Algae). I'll be adding some SAEs in a few days, I'm hoping they will turn the tide. Give your CAE a chance. MY CAE has done a great job on the black algae that was on one of my swords, but it hasn't done much for the green spot algae on the glass at the back of the tank. I've also got a lawn of green hair algae on my Bog wood, and a fake log, it has started again to grow on the glass. I have platies in one of my tanks, and they used to be in this one. they gave birth and I didn't notice, before I moved them, but one of the fry has survived, and he seems to enjoy eating the black and green algae, so I might try put a few of the adults from the other tank in there for a few days and see what happens. How important is a CO2 injector? I don't have one, and I've read you don't need it, but would it be a good idea to buy one? §tudz |
beard alage
"§tudz" wrote in message ... "Bill Stock" wrote in message ... Flourish Excel (carbon supplement) seems to be the one fix I've seen recommended, also higher CO2 levels are supposed to help. My BBA seemed to thrive when I started dosing Phosphates, but the plants are growing like crazy, so I can't complain. I've increased my CO2 levels to about 35 PPM and the BBA seems to be in check. My Otos don't touch BBA, but they may prefer the GSA (Green Spot Algae). I'll be adding some SAEs in a few days, I'm hoping they will turn the tide. Give your CAE a chance. MY CAE has done a great job on the black algae that was on one of my swords, but it hasn't done much for the green spot algae on the glass at the back of the tank. I've also got a lawn of green hair algae on my Bog wood, and a fake log, it has started again to grow on the glass. I have platies in one of my tanks, and they used to be in this one. they gave birth and I didn't notice, before I moved them, but one of the fry has survived, and he seems to enjoy eating the black and green algae, so I might try put a few of the adults from the other tank in there for a few days and see what happens. How important is a CO2 injector? I don't have one, and I've read you don't need it, but would it be a good idea to buy one? If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a small tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do. §tudz |
beard alage
"Bill Stock" wrote in message .. . If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a small tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do. 2 wpg? I have two tubes in my planted tank, which is a 15gallon tank. 1 x Arcadia - Original Tropical Lamp 1 x Arcadia - Frsh Water Lamp Both are 15watts I was reading one of the NGs and gound a thread about DIY CO2 kits yesterday, so decided to read up about them. They seem to have some draw backs, such as killing all the fish? if not done right, and knowing my luck, lol, thats what would happen. I've seen the tetra CO2 kits on Ebay for about £5, so its not breaking the bank, well at the moment it is, damn Xmas, but it wont be when I get paid. §tudz |
beard alage
oh god!
well I've been doing bleach dips, as I said earlier, I've just started one, and I jusy found my small clown loach floating in the bucket.... :'( I checked the log throughly before adding it, he must had been hiding extremely well. Just a point to everyone trying this, make sure your fish aren't hiding in the stuff your gonna dip :( R.I.P - poor little clown loach, whos life was taken mistakenly. §tudz |
beard alage
Hi..
I feed some freeze dried Bloodworm FD Bloodworm shouldn't contain as much phosphate as frozen Bloodworm. How much CO2 is in water? -- cu Marco |
beard alage
"§tudz" wrote in message ... "Bill Stock" wrote in message .. . If your lighting is below 2 wpg you shouldn't need CO2. If you have a small tank, a Yeast/Sugar CO2 generator should do. 2 wpg? 2 watts per gallon. So you have 30 watts on your 15 gallon tank or 2 wpg. CO2 probably not rerquired. I have two tubes in my planted tank, which is a 15gallon tank. 1 x Arcadia - Original Tropical Lamp 1 x Arcadia - Frsh Water Lamp Both are 15watts I was reading one of the NGs and gound a thread about DIY CO2 kits yesterday, so decided to read up about them. They seem to have some draw backs, such as killing all the fish? if not done right, and knowing my luck, lol, thats what would happen. They can get tipped over and leak into the tank. You should make sure it can't fall over and use a check valve. I've seen the tetra CO2 kits on Ebay for about £5, so its not breaking the bank, well at the moment it is, damn Xmas, but it wont be when I get paid. §tudz |
beard alage
"§tudz" wrote in message ... R.I.P - poor little clown loach, whos life was taken mistakenly. ========================== Stuff like that happens to all of us..... :( Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
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