Koi-lo wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in message
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Koi-lo wrote:
"Shorty" wrote in message
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Pearling means bubbles of gas sitting on the surface of the plant.

In this case, it refers to a situation when the water is saturated with
oxygen and the additional oxygen produced by the plants does not
dissolve in the water anymore. Then, you can see the bubbles of oxygen
sitting on the plant.

But if you get this in the first two days of water change, this is more
likely to be all the gas dissolved in your tap water.

I'm not an expert at this so correct me if I'm wrong.
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I believe you are correct. The plants pearl on sunny days in my betta
tanks
on a sunny windowsill.
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I believe you are correct. The plants pearl on sunny days in my betta
tanks
on a sunny windowsill.

Tanks???
You have them in tiny little bowls. Those are not tanks.
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Check my new aquarium webpage. BTW do you keep your bettas with gravel and
plants? My bettas have always had gravel and plants. It's cruel to keep
them any other way as I'm sure you agree. How do you make sure everyone who
buys your bettas provides them with live plants and gravel?
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Tanks???
You have them in tiny little bowls. Those are not tanks.
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Check my new aquarium webpage. BTW do you keep your bettas with gravel and
plants? My bettas have always had gravel and plants. It's cruel to keep
them any other way as I'm sure you agree. How do you make sure everyone who
buys your bettas provides them with live plants and gravel?

I checked your page as you suggest and I was so happy to see that most
of them are in larger containers. Good job. = ) And I mean that.

Yes, I agree on the plants, however gravel is not an absolute
necessity, nor is it cruel not to have gravel. It's simply asthetic to
the keeper's eye, brings out better coloring in any fish (one of the
reasons I use gravel in all my tanks except spawning tanks), and
creates more surfaces for the nitrifying bacteria to grow on.
It's not going to harm the fish not to have gravel in it's tank
though...it's just better in my personal opinion, but isn't being cruel
if they don't have it.
Yes...my single Betta tanks have plants....mostly baby Java fern shoots
and when they grow too large I simply plant them in one of the larger
tanks.
These Java ferns sprout so many baby plants (worse than a Spider
plant!) that I always have a ton to go around.
They're also great for the spawning and fry growing tanks (the baby
plants).
I must say again, I am so happy that you have given your male Bettas
the larger containers. You did right by them and didn't even say (or
did you a while back when I was off line due to my neck surgery).
Again, good job! = )

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Koi-lo wrote:
..
Check my new aquarium webpage. BTW do you keep your bettas with gravel
and
plants? My bettas have always had gravel and plants. It's cruel to
keep
them any other way as I'm sure you agree. How do you make sure everyone
who
buys your bettas provides them with live plants and gravel?
======================
I checked your page as you suggest and I was so happy to see that most
of them are in larger containers. Good job. = ) And I mean that.

All were less than $1 on 1/2 price day down at the Goodwill Store. :-)

Yes, I agree on the plants, however gravel is not an absolute
necessity, nor is it cruel not to have gravel.

I feel it should be in all betta bowls and tanks as they seem to enjoy
picking around it for who-knows-what. But you were right about the old
bowls I was using. I measure the water they held and it was between 1 qt and
1/2 gallon. All these hold over a gallon except that weird shaped one. The
gravel is also (along with their plants) the bio-filter so they don't have
to suffer any ammonia when I change the water.

It's simply asthetic to
the keeper's eye, brings out better coloring in any fish (one of the
reasons I use gravel in all my tanks except spawning tanks), and
creates more surfaces for the nitrifying bacteria to grow on.
It's not going to harm the fish not to have gravel in it's tank
though..

It keeps them busy. It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.

..it's just better in my personal opinion, but isn't being cruel
if they don't have it.
Yes...my single Betta tanks have plants....mostly baby Java fern shoots
and when they grow too large I simply plant them in one of the larger
tanks.
These Java ferns sprout so many baby plants (worse than a Spider
plant!) that I always have a ton to go around.
They're also great for the spawning and fry growing tanks (the baby
plants).
I must say again, I am so happy that you have given your male Bettas
the larger containers. You did right by them and didn't even say (or
did you a while back when I was off line due to my neck surgery).
Again, good job! = )

I posted the URL to the new page for a week or two. I actually measured the
water, then headed down to Goodwill ..... :-)
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It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.

True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.

Cliff

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It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.

True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.
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That depends where you live. Here the river bottoms are covered with stones
and pebbles of various sizes, the soil washed downstream ages ago. On L.I.
the ponds and inlets were sand, pebbles and stones. The lake here has a
mud and rock bottom.
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Koi-lo wrote:

"Cliff L" wrote in message
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It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.


True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.

======================
That depends where you live. Here the river bottoms are covered with
stones and pebbles of various sizes, the soil washed downstream ages
ago. On L.I. the ponds and inlets were sand, pebbles and stones. The
lake here has a mud and rock bottom.

If memory serves me rightly, the bottom of the Thames is squidgy mud
with the odd bit of stone/gravel but predominately mud...used to get
stuck between your toes - lol. It was a long time ago when I was mad
enough to swim in there but I'm pretty sure that it won't have changed
much....

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
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Koi-lo wrote:

"Cliff L" wrote in message
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It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.


True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.

======================
That depends where you live. Here the river bottoms are covered with
stones and pebbles of various sizes, the soil washed downstream ages ago.
On L.I. the ponds and inlets were sand, pebbles and stones. The lake
here has a mud and rock bottom.

If memory serves me rightly, the bottom of the Thames is squidgy mud with
the odd bit of stone/gravel but predominately mud...used to get stuck
between your toes - lol. It was a long time ago when I was mad enough to
swim in there but I'm pretty sure that it won't have changed much....
======================
Your Thames then is much like our Hudson and East Rivers in NYC. Those
rivers have a sludge over the soil and whatever boulders, stones and pebbles
are there. You can well call it squidgy mud. And we have trash! Ugh,
trash of every description from broken bottles to used baby diapers in those
rivers. Very nasty stuff you don't even want to put your feet in.... :þ
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Koi-lo wrote:

"Gill Passman" wrote in message
.. .

Koi-lo wrote:


"Cliff L" wrote in message
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It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.



True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.


======================
That depends where you live. Here the river bottoms are covered with
stones and pebbles of various sizes, the soil washed downstream ages
ago. On L.I. the ponds and inlets were sand, pebbles and stones.
The lake here has a mud and rock bottom.


If memory serves me rightly, the bottom of the Thames is squidgy mud
with the odd bit of stone/gravel but predominately mud...used to get
stuck between your toes - lol. It was a long time ago when I was mad
enough to swim in there but I'm pretty sure that it won't have changed
much....

======================
Your Thames then is much like our Hudson and East Rivers in NYC. Those
rivers have a sludge over the soil and whatever boulders, stones and
pebbles are there. You can well call it squidgy mud. And we have
trash! Ugh, trash of every description from broken bottles to used baby
diapers in those rivers. Very nasty stuff you don't even want to put
your feet in.... :þ

The Thames has been through some major clean ups but I rather fancy the
seventies were the hay day in terms of safety for swimming (not that it
was safe we just didn't know any better)...I wouldn't let my kids swim
there now but that might also be down to us understanding the dangers of
swimming in a river such as the Thames with all its currents without
considering toxicity which I don't really believe is a major issue these
days...There is no real junk issue in the Thames or the majority of our
major rivers...trash in the odd pond/lake/river/stream - yes it
happens...but the environmental people are so much on the case now that
it is the exception rather than the rule....

Gill

In article .com,
Cliff L wrote:
It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.

True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.

People poeple... are we losing sight of the unnaturallness of those
glass walls?

How many rivrs have glass walls and welding tanks and shop lights
(has a quick look in the backyard) none here... anyone?


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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Cliff L wrote:
It's more natural than a plain glass bottom.

True, but I wonder how common a gravel subtrate is
for aquarium fish in the wild, as opposed to mud or
larger river stones.

People poeple... are we losing sight of the unnaturallness of those
glass walls?

How many rivrs have glass walls and welding tanks and shop lights
(has a quick look in the backyard) none here... anyone?
==========================
I think the fish are more comfortable with something natural such as gravel,
sand or pebbles on the bottom of their tanks than bare glass. Others may
disagree of course. Whatever works for you and your particular fish. :-)
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Aquariums since 1952
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