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Old 13-03-2005, 06:15 PM
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It seems the poster who reported that Seachem Excel works as an
algaecide on top of being a source of organic carbon was right!
I had a lot of hair algae in my 110g heavily planted tank. So much that
the outflow of my eheim filter had to be scrubbed and cleaned at least
once every two weeks. Algae grew very fast and was very happy.
I started dosing Excel daily for a week or so, then forgot about it.
Four weeks later (or so), almost all the algae is gone. I'll be sure to
order another large bottle of Excel to continue dosing as a preventative.
It works!

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Old 14-03-2005, 01:53 AM
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And the rooster causes the sun to rise. You are jumping to conclusion.

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Old 14-03-2005, 03:51 AM
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Watercress wrote:
And the rooster causes the sun to rise. You are jumping to conclusion.


Really? Then by all means explain to me what exactly caused the hair
algae to die off. I didn't change anything else in my routine.

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Old 14-03-2005, 03:59 AM
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Watercress wrote:
And the rooster causes the sun to rise. You are jumping to conclusion.


Really? Then by all means explain to me what exactly caused the hair algae
to die off. I didn't change anything else in my routine.


There may be something in this:

I use Seachem Flourish and my algae gets out of control after using it. I
can't find Excel around here, so I can't quantify your observations. It'd be
nice though if the liquid plant fertilizer could help with my algae which is
about as bad as yours was.

I really don't think it's an algaecide per se, but rather, it's bringing the
tank into a balance where the plants can out compete the algae.

I think I have an excess of something in the tank, or an out of balance
situation because it grows on large leaves too, spoiling the plants
eventually. I thought the plants (lots of them) were supposed to out-compete
algae?

Oz

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Old 14-03-2005, 04:03 AM
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Ozdude wrote:
I really don't think it's an algaecide per se, but rather, it's bringing the
tank into a balance where the plants can out compete the algae.


I recommend you guys google for the thread discussing this last time. It
has a very good explanation on why seachem excel *is* an algaecide.

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Old 14-03-2005, 04:32 AM
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Wow, it is on the web, so it got to be true. (^_^; Yes, I am trying
to **** you off.

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Old 14-03-2005, 05:01 AM
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Perhaps, the plants in your tank benefited from the Excel solution and
starved the Algae to death?

I noticed a similar occurrence when I added some lawn fertilizers to my
tank. The plants grew very rapidly and the brown slime that used to be
in my tank disappeared. I can jump to the conclusion that the lawn
feritlizers killed the algae but I rather not do that. I don't deny
that there may be a causal relationship between the brown slime's
disappearance and the addition of the lawn fertilizer, but I won't go
so far as to assert that the lawn fertilizer killed the brown slime.

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Old 14-03-2005, 05:40 AM
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Watercress wrote:

And the rooster causes the sun to rise. You are jumping to
conclusion.


He may be, but so are you - you're concluding, a priori, that he's
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Old 14-03-2005, 06:11 AM
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Nope. How did you ever jump to that conclusion? :-0

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Old 14-03-2005, 06:53 AM
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I can't find Excel around here


Try these folks. I use them all the time for seachem products.

http://www.aquaria.com.au/catalog/





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Old 14-03-2005, 07:42 AM
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I recommend you guys google for the thread discussing this last time. It
has a very good explanation on why seachem excel *is* an algaecide.


It is not an algicide. It hurts algae bad and can kill it though.

The US Govt. thinks there's a difference.


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Old 14-03-2005, 10:10 AM
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Victor Martinez wrote:
Watercress wrote:

And the rooster causes the sun to rise. You are jumping to conclusion.



Really? Then by all means explain to me what exactly caused the hair
algae to die off. I didn't change anything else in my routine.

An alternate explanation is that your plants, given a good carbon
source, outcompeted the hair algae. Either way, the outcome is great!
I really like Excel in my very low algae tanks too.

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Old 14-03-2005, 05:36 PM
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I really don't think it's an algaecide per se, but rather, it's bringing the
tank into a balance where the plants can out compete the algae.


No, it kills algae. Try it for yourself. Take a tank in good
shape. Add moss balls (Cladophora algae). Now add flourish excel.
The moss balls will die.

Dr. Greg Moran, CEO of Sea Chem will tell you it's not an algicide
and will explian why silly US laws make it so. But he will also
tell you not to use it on Cladophora as it will not do it any good.

There's no warning on the label about this becasue they figured
who'd want to grow algae?

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Old 14-03-2005, 05:56 PM
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"blank" wrote in message
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I can't find Excel around here


Try these folks. I use them all the time for seachem products.

http://www.aquaria.com.au/catalog/


Thanks.

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Old 14-03-2005, 06:03 PM
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Richard Sexton wrote:
I really don't think it's an algaecide per se, but rather, it's bringing the
tank into a balance where the plants can out compete the algae.



No, it kills algae. Try it for yourself. Take a tank in good
shape. Add moss balls (Cladophora algae). Now add flourish excel.
The moss balls will die.

Dr. Greg Moran, CEO of Sea Chem will tell you it's not an algicide
and will explian why silly US laws make it so. But he will also
tell you not to use it on Cladophora as it will not do it any good.

There's no warning on the label about this becasue they figured
who'd want to grow algae?


I've got some Excel but haven't got around to trying it. What if you're
already injecting with CO2. Does it have any impact on shrimp etc? Will
my algae eating fish suddenly go hungry?

Nikki



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