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Potted perennials
This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks
like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate
wrote: This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. -- Persephone |
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Persephone wrote in message ... Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. -- Persephone One has to wonder how unfortunate we are that people like you were not aborted before birth. |
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Hey Lauren,
Didn't know you were in the Manson family. When did you get that swastika tattooed on your forehead? "Lauren" wrote in message ... Persephone wrote in message ... Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. -- Persephone One has to wonder how unfortunate we are that people like you were not aborted before birth. |
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"Lauren" wrote in message ... Persephone wrote in message ... Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. One has to wonder how unfortunate we are that people like you were not aborted before birth. Jeeeeez...someone didn't eat her Wheaties today. |
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Persephone wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate wrote: This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The latin name turns out to be Setcreasea purpurea. Peace, Kate |
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Setcreasea is not an accepted name
Wrong.
Setcreasea purpurea is not an accepted name. Its correctly named Tradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart', a purple leafed cultivar of the species. "kate" wrote in message ... Persephone wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate wrote: This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The latin name turns out to be Setcreasea purpurea. Peace, Kate |
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Setcreasea is not an accepted name
"Cereus-validus-..........." wrote in message m... Wrong. Setcreasea purpurea is not an accepted name. Its correctly named Tradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart', a purple leafed cultivar of the species. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ but, but, Cereus, in The Houseplant Expert book on page 222, it shows a picture of Setcreasea purpurea in flower, next to it, a water colour drawing (very well done which is the way the original book used to be, but I have both, the older one and the newer edition that came out in the early 90's that has both water colour and real photo's which the original book didn't) of what the plant would look like in a clay pot and underneath that, S. purpurea and underneath THAT Purple Heart, and then a deffinition of "Setcreasea purpurea is a straggly plant which makes up for its untidiness by it's attractive colour-- a rich purple when grown in good light. He leaves are slightly hairy and pink flowers appear in summer". unquote. Next to a most impressive picture and drawing of Siderasis which is S. fuscata or the Brown Spiderwort that I was speaking of earlier, btw. If someone has recently decided that it's not acceptable to call Purple Heart or Purple Boat, which is what I also knew it by (from the old Hyponex houseplant book which was my FIRST plant book, btw, and not by any means my last, as I'm up to over 249 books on gardening now) I'm not surprised, but will continue to call them by both their Latin names as well as their common names. g but that's jess me.....GBSEG maddie "kate" wrote in message ... Persephone wrote On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate m wrote This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The latin name turns out to be Setcreasea purpurea. Peace, Kate |
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Setcreasea is not an accepted name
Cereus-validus-........... wrote: Wrong. Setcreasea purpurea is not an accepted name. Its correctly named Tradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart', a purple leafed cultivar of the species. I sit corrected. Can I just call it a roaming gentile? A meandering muslim? Perhaps not. "kate" wrote in message ... Persephone wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate wrote: This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The latin name turns out to be Setcreasea purpurea. Peace, Kate |
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You shall be the nattering naybob!!!
"kate" wrote in message . .. Cereus-validus-........... wrote: Wrong. Setcreasea purpurea is not an accepted name. Its correctly named Tradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart', a purple leafed cultivar of the species. I sit corrected. Can I just call it a roaming gentile? A meandering muslim? Perhaps not. "kate" wrote in message ... Persephone wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate wrote: This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The latin name turns out to be Setcreasea purpurea. Peace, Kate |
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Setcreasea is not an accepted name
"kate" wrote in message . .. Cereus-validus-........... wrote: Wrong. Setcreasea purpurea is not an accepted name. Its correctly named Tradescantia pallida 'Purple Heart', a purple leafed cultivar of the species. I sit corrected. Can I just call it a roaming gentile? A meandering muslim? Perhaps not. I LOVE how you think!!!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO (ignore curmudgeons......althought he is extremely knowledgable) madgardener who refuses to stand corrected when it's in a freaking GARDENING BOOK for crying out loud.......................................... |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:39:22 -0600, kate
wrote: Persephone wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:41:30 -0600, kate wrote: This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday Just a personal opinion -- but -- I find the term "wandering jew" so distasteful, that I prefer to use the botanical name. At a nursery I would ask for the plant by its botanical name. Googling "Wandering Jew" yields: +++++ Common name: "Zebrina Wandering Jew" Latin name: Tradescantia zebrina - synonym Zebrina pendula +++++ Note that the Latin name says nothing about Jews. The meaning is "trailing" or "hanging". One has to wonder how this unfortunate nomenclature arose. Sorry, didn't mean to offend. The latin name turns out to be Setcreasea purpurea. Thanks for correction - but I'm still puzzled how I googled the other Latin term. You didn't "offend"; far from it. I wrote because, as I said earlier, having been in the word business all my life, I know how people can use terminology without being aware of how it got into the language. Someone else made a comment that made me think they really didn't understand what "wandering Jew" means. I won't go into detail here, but if you want to send an email address, I can send a brief history. Peace, indeed! Persephone |
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"kate" wrote in message ... This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday hey Kate.......madgardener here (I grew up and lived most of my life in Nashville). Question........the carnations that you have....did you get them at a nursery? Or at Kroger or a grocery in the florist section? And a type of wandering jew? I can say the wandering Jew won't survive the hard frost that is coming your way. Is it all purple? There are several types of wandering vine-like plants in the Tradescantia family. "Wandering Jew" or Inch plant won't hold up to temperatures below 40o You can bring it in and give the long stems a haircut and root them to make another pot or plant them into the soil with the rest of the plants. The purple one is Setcreasea purpurea known as purple boat or Purple heart. That has to come in as well. I know the nurseries sell it as a ground cover, but it's not hardy I myself have the Siderasis or Brown Spiderwort, which I didn't want to lose so I brought mine in Friday. There is also a variety of Tradescantia called Zebrina which is also known as Wandering Jew, way more colorful with leaves green, silver, edged in pink or green, and purple, or even green, silver, pink and red. These can't survive past 40o outside. Now the Bee Balm.......Yes, it can survive in a container. But honestly, either plant it today, or heel it in until spring, mounding leaves around the pot to protect the sides against the cold, winds. If you can get a shovel into the ground, you could plunge the pot and all into a hole, but if I were you, I'd plant the Monarda and mark the spot with the lable and whack the stems back to within three inches tall and water it well and forget about it. Come springtime you'll see little triangles coming up where you planted the clump, and before you know it, they will have quietly risen up to become those great stems with the flowers that hummers love so well. I've taken to putting one of those garden grids over mine as they tend to flop due to the raised soil being a bit too rich for them. But in regular and poor soil, they flourish and stand more upright like they're supposed to. I'd even say the second and third year when they start bulking up and spreading, to cut them back when they get to two foot tall to make them branch. They're tough. Members of the mint family. Hope this helps! g madgardener up on the ridge, back in Fairy Holler, overlooking English Mountain in Eastern Tennessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36 |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:45:41 -0500, "madgardener"
wrote: "Wandering Jew" or Inch plant won't hold up to temperatures below 40o My gardening experience near San Francisco taught me that it will live quite happily at temperatures below 40°. It won't survive a hard freeze, though. My email address is LLM041103 at earthlink dot net. |
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madgardener wrote: "kate" wrote in message ... This is the first year I've had potted hardy perennials and it looks like middle TN is about to plunge into low temps. I've got carnations, some form of wandering jew and bee balm. Will they over winter outside in their plastic pots or should I a)plant them or b)bring them inside? Kate - who finally planted garlic yesterday hey Kate.......madgardener here (I grew up and lived most of my life in Nashville). Question........the carnations that you have....did you get them at a nursery? Or at Kroger or a grocery in the florist section? I started them from seed this year. They didn't bloom. Hopefully next year. I think they're hardy to zone 3 or 4. And a type of wandering jew? I can say the wandering Jew won't survive the hard frost that is coming your way. Is it all purple? All purple with light purple blooms. A friend gave me cuttings. She has them everywhere and leaves them out, but in great big tubs. There are several types of wandering vine-like plants in the Tradescantia family. "Wandering Jew" or Inch plant won't hold up to temperatures below 40o You can bring it in and give the long stems a haircut and root them to make another pot or plant them into the soil with the rest of the plants. The purple one is Setcreasea purpurea known as purple boat or Purple heart. That has to come in as well. That's it! I guess they do have to come in - rats! (I made the mistake of seperating one of the Aloe from it's pups - now I've got 10 aloes, one bay tree and 2 window boxes of Setcreasea purpurea to over winter inside - groan.) I know the nurseries sell it as a ground cover, but it's not hardy I myself have the Siderasis or Brown Spiderwort, which I didn't want to lose so I brought mine in Friday. There is also a variety of Tradescantia called Zebrina which is also known as Wandering Jew, way more colorful with leaves green, silver, edged in pink or green, and purple, or even green, silver, pink and red. These can't survive past 40o outside. Now the Bee Balm.......Yes, it can survive in a container. But honestly, either plant it today, or heel it in until spring, mounding leaves around the pot to protect the sides against the cold, winds. If you can get a shovel into the ground, you could plunge the pot and all into a hole, but if I were you, I'd plant the Monarda and mark the spot with the lable and whack the stems back to within three inches tall and water it well and forget about it. Come springtime you'll see little triangles coming up where you planted the clump, and before you know it, they will have quietly risen up to become those great stems with the flowers that hummers love so well. I've taken to putting one of those garden grids over mine as they tend to flop due to the raised soil being a bit too rich for them. But in regular and poor soil, they flourish and stand more upright like they're supposed to. I'd even say the second and third year when they start bulking up and spreading, to cut them back when they get to two foot tall to make them branch. They're tough. Members of the mint family. Thanks, Mad! We got a wee bit of rain this morning and now it's quite balmy. I may just got out and put the balm and carnations in the ground. Kate |
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