Hey, I found a specimen of this wild black blackberry that I know grows
around here in north central florida... Can someone help me ID it?

The only example I could find on the web with the same qualities was
something like this, and it didn't have the genus/species or name:

http://www.alamedainfo.com/Alameda_C...ay_30_2005.jpg

but the stem is green, and the thorns aren't as pronounced. It's leaves are
in groups of 3, perfectly oval shaped (unlike the picture) and never get
longer than an inch even when the plant is full grown. They'll grow in
brambles, but I don't think they grow in vines or arches, more like big
clumps of the bushes they grow as when I see them alone. I would just say
it's a blackberry and leave it at that, except the leaves are oval and
smaller... The berries taste and look like blackberries.

Eric

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Hey, I found a specimen of this wild black blackberry that I know grows
around here in north central florida... Can someone help me ID it?

The only example I could find on the web with the same qualities was
something like this, and it didn't have the genus/species or name:

http://www.alamedainfo.com/Alameda_C...ay_30_2005.jpg

but the stem is green, and the thorns aren't as pronounced. It's leaves are
in groups of 3, perfectly oval shaped (unlike the picture) and never get
longer than an inch even when the plant is full grown. They'll grow in
brambles, but I don't think they grow in vines or arches, more like big
clumps of the bushes they grow as when I see them alone. I would just say
it's a blackberry and leave it at that, except the leaves are oval and
smaller... The berries taste and look like blackberries.

Eric



Wild Blackberries around here (North Carolina) are commonly refered to
as brambles. After a little Googling it appears that bramble is a
widely accepted name.

http://www.answers.com/bramble&r=67

Devonshire

It sounds like you are describing what locals called dewberries when I lived
in north florida. The bramble family are all pretty closely related. I think
it's either the same species as blackberry with some local characteristics,
or a very close relative.
"Eric Gibson" wrote in message
news:cEKRf.138236$0G.61009@dukeread10...
Hey, I found a specimen of this wild black blackberry that I know grows
around here in north central florida... Can someone help me ID it?

The only example I could find on the web with the same qualities was
something like this, and it didn't have the genus/species or name:

http://www.alamedainfo.com/Alameda_C...ay_30_2005.jpg

but the stem is green, and the thorns aren't as pronounced. It's leaves
are
in groups of 3, perfectly oval shaped (unlike the picture) and never get
longer than an inch even when the plant is full grown. They'll grow in
brambles, but I don't think they grow in vines or arches, more like big
clumps of the bushes they grow as when I see them alone. I would just say
it's a blackberry and leave it at that, except the leaves are oval and
smaller... The berries taste and look like blackberries.

Eric

Normally southern dewberries are low growing and these grow into full 3'
bushes. It's obviously some type of rubus. Most likely
derived/cross-polinated from a rubus trivialis at some point.

The leaves aren't like the normal southern dewberry. I think it's some
native north american rubus that just grows around here, because I've found
them deep... deep... off the trail for miles in local state parks... Of
course that doesn't mean much considering birds love them and could spread
them far and wide, but I've lived elsewhere and mostly the leaves of
dewberry are pointed.

They are good though ... Frak it!

Eric

"presley" wrote in message
...
It sounds like you are describing what locals called dewberries when I
lived
in north florida. The bramble family are all pretty closely related. I
think
it's either the same species as blackberry with some local
characteristics,
or a very close relative.
"Eric Gibson" wrote in message
news:cEKRf.138236$0G.61009@dukeread10...
Hey, I found a specimen of this wild black blackberry that I know grows
around here in north central florida... Can someone help me ID it?

The only example I could find on the web with the same qualities was
something like this, and it didn't have the genus/species or name:

http://www.alamedainfo.com/Alameda_C...ay_30_2005.jpg

but the stem is green, and the thorns aren't as pronounced. It's leaves
are
in groups of 3, perfectly oval shaped (unlike the picture) and never get
longer than an inch even when the plant is full grown. They'll grow in
brambles, but I don't think they grow in vines or arches, more like big
clumps of the bushes they grow as when I see them alone. I would just
say
it's a blackberry and leave it at that, except the leaves are oval and
smaller... The berries taste and look like blackberries.

Eric