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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Valkyrie" wrote in message ... Also, have you provided a different place for your dog to dig. It may be that he/she loves to dig and would leave thegarden alone if he/she had their own digging patch. It may not work but is perhaps worth a try. Bad idea. That's like giving your dog an old shoe to chew on and then wonder why you come home to all your new shoes chewed up. MOST dogs don't understand that you can dig up anything 'here' but don't dig 'there'. You need to teach it to not dig, period. Best way is to break the dog of digging OR you have chosen a breed that digs not matter what because the ancestors have spent the past 400 years or more digging up rodents and other burrowing creatures. In that case........get used to the digging. yes, you may be very correct. I windered whether it was a symptom of being bored perhaps. Dogs need stimulation and the digging may be a reaction to lack of activities. Obviously having their own sand pit isn't a good substitution if you are trying to wean them off digging. rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs.
i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:35:26 +0000, Arman
wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. Coffee grounds? Most pets don't like the smell. You could ask the folks at your local Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf or Starbucks to save you discarded grounds - give them a container, if they prefer not to put in plastic bags. ISTR that coffee grounds are good for plants, as well. T/F? Persephone |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Persephone wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:35:26 +0000, Arman wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. Coffee grounds? Most pets don't like the smell. You could ask the folks at your local Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf or Starbucks to save you discarded grounds - give them a container, if they prefer not to put in plastic bags. ISTR that coffee grounds are good for plants, as well. T/F? Persephone how about fringing the garden with sacrifical thornier or bushier plants, thereby placing a barrier between the dog and desired plants? If the mut does want to go digging it will first attack the plants which will cause most pain and likely stop in time. This depends on where you place the garden, how spaced it is, how big the dog etc etc. Also, have you provided a different place for your dog to dig. It may be that he/she loves to dig and would leave thegarden alone if he/she had their own digging patch. It may not work but is perhaps worth a try. When we moved into our current place there were no gardens for the cats to crap in so they used the lawn(killing it) or flower pots. When I put in some gardens they started using those. Camphour (I am told) is supposed to be a deterrant to dogs and cats. Moth balls, perhaps in an old sock, may do the trick. It is possible to buy camphour mixed into saw dust that can be spread around and supposedly break the cycle of bog and digging. rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Put a fence around the garden, solar-powered electric is easy to
install and works well. On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:35:26 +0000, Arman wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
sigh. it is a training thing. put a leash on them. walk them up to the plant,
point to it, yell no and haul them away. do this about 10 times and they should start putting the brakes on as you start to haul them up to the pots. if this doesnt work then put a bit of bitter apple in a sprayer, or, get the bitter apple spray and hit them with that. soon they form a negative link with approaching the pots. dont put fertilizer on top of the dirt. also mulch the pots and spray with bitter apple. I had a dog got into and mostly ate bone meal. blood meal would also attract them. OTOH, I dont leave my dogs out alone in our very fenced in and private yard because I dont want them thinking up mischief or being stolen. Ingrid Arman wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Also, have you provided a different place for your dog to dig. It may be that he/she loves to dig and would leave thegarden alone if he/she had their own digging patch. It may not work but is perhaps worth a try. Bad idea. That's like giving your dog an old shoe to chew on and then wonder why you come home to all your new shoes chewed up. MOST dogs don't understand that you can dig up anything 'here' but don't dig 'there'. You need to teach it to not dig, period. Best way is to break the dog of digging OR you have chosen a breed that digs not matter what because the ancestors have spent the past 400 years or more digging up rodents and other burrowing creatures. In that case........get used to the digging. Val |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Arman" wrote in message ... I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. A short list of living things were complete mistakes. Dogs, mosquitoes and viruses. You're wondering how to make your dog behave acceptably? You've got to be kidding. Do the world a favor and slit it throat. add trolls to the list Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:35:26 +0000, Arman
wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. Try: 1 tbs cayenne pepper 1 tbs garlic powder 1-2 drops of liquid dish soap 2 cups water Mix in spray bottle, spray around the area. Re-apply after rain. OR 2 tsp hot sauce 2 crushed cloves 2 tsp liquid dish soap 3 cups water Mix in spray bottle, spray around the area. Re-apply after rain. I've used this method to keep dogs from "shittin'" on the lawn. It won't hurt a lawn and I suspect not your flowers. Oren "My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes." |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message
. net... Doug Kanter wrote: "Arman" wrote in message ... I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. A short list of living things were complete mistakes. Dogs, mosquitoes and viruses. You're wondering how to make your dog behave acceptably? You've got to be kidding. Do the world a favor and slit it throat. add trolls to the list Carl This is not a troll. You've been trained by your dog. With help, you can get your mind back. It'll be a long road, though. Good luck. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message . net... Doug Kanter wrote: "Arman" wrote in message ... I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. A short list of living things were complete mistakes. Dogs, mosquitoes and viruses. You're wondering how to make your dog behave acceptably? You've got to be kidding. Do the world a favor and slit it throat. add trolls to the list Carl This is not a troll. You've been trained by your dog. With help, you can get your mind back. It'll be a long road, though. Good luck. Don't you feel suggesting someone slit their dog's throat seemed harsh? I apologize for the troll remark if I misunderstood. No question folks sometimes do get trained by their dogs, ats and other pet's behaviors. Once you realize what the animal's motivations are, you have half the battle won. Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message . com... Doug Kanter wrote: "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message . net... Doug Kanter wrote: "Arman" wrote in message ... I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. A short list of living things were complete mistakes. Dogs, mosquitoes and viruses. You're wondering how to make your dog behave acceptably? You've got to be kidding. Do the world a favor and slit it throat. add trolls to the list Carl This is not a troll. You've been trained by your dog. With help, you can get your mind back. It'll be a long road, though. Good luck. Don't you feel suggesting someone slit their dog's throat seemed harsh? No, not harsh at all. Like child molesters, dogs have no place in a polite society. Perhaps they were designed to live in packs, in the woods, and clean up rotting dead animal flesh, much like maggots. But, they don't belong anywhere near human populations. I apologize for the troll remark if I misunderstood. Apology accepted. No question folks sometimes do get trained by their dogs, ats and other pet's behaviors. Once you realize what the animal's motivations are, you have half the battle won. Carl All animals have characteristics which are unchangeable. For instance, if you step into a tiger's cage, it is assumed that you want to die, because the vast majority of the time, a tiger will kill you if you stop by for a visit. Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. |
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Hi Oren & others who have made some valid suggestions, Thank you!!!!! I am going to try the moth ball and this spray suggestion and see how it goes. Trouble is where I live, its hot ... real hot .. so i have to water my plants twice a day so they won't wilt. will the moth ball hurt the plants? also how safe is it in vege containers? right now i am growing varieties of lettuce, leafy veges (spinach) and beans, is it safe to keep moth ball in those containers? i like using organic fertiliser, so some i mulch and i also use tea leaves and grounded up egg shells, could they be attracting the dogs? rob, you might have a point abt the dogs being bored. i train and show dogs but recently i've been so busy between work, my toddler, my evening classes at the university and a bunch of house guests who show sign of leaving that i have actually neglected my dogs quite a bit. so like someone here said, now that i've realised that they are bored, maybe doing something abt that will help get them off my plants. hmmm... !! thanks again for your inputs everyone! really appreciate them! i am attaching a pic of my hanging flower pots that have escaped my dogs .. lol, this is from last year tho, so now the total container count is 80+. take care everyone & thanks again, arman. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message . com... Doug Kanter wrote: "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message gy.net... Doug Kanter wrote: "Arman" wrote in message ... I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. A short list of living things were complete mistakes. Dogs, mosquitoes and viruses. You're wondering how to make your dog behave acceptably? You've got to be kidding. Do the world a favor and slit it throat. add trolls to the list Carl This is not a troll. You've been trained by your dog. With help, you can get your mind back. It'll be a long road, though. Good luck. Don't you feel suggesting someone slit their dog's throat seemed harsh? No, not harsh at all. Like child molesters, dogs have no place in a polite society. Perhaps they were designed to live in packs, in the woods, and clean up rotting dead animal flesh, much like maggots. But, they don't belong anywhere near human populations. I apologize for the troll remark if I misunderstood. Apology accepted. No question folks sometimes do get trained by their dogs, ats and other pet's behaviors. Once you realize what the animal's motivations are, you have half the battle won. Carl All animals have characteristics which are unchangeable. For instance, if you step into a tiger's cage, it is assumed that you want to die, because the vast majority of the time, a tiger will kill you if you stop by for a visit. Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. Well,I think we will have to agree to disagree. many people have found the 'cost/benefit' ratio of keeping 'domesticated' animals (which the dogs we speak of are) satisfactory. And humans have found that true for 10s of thousands of years. Certainly one could focus on the negative aspect of cars, computers and even family members. Doesn't meant they have no place in our lives. Whether its securing property, searching for criminals or explosives or avalanche victims, or just helping to ward off loneliness as a companion, they can be quite useful. Of course, as you allude to, one should educate oneself as to the 'nature' of dogs before associating with them. They are like retarded children in many ways but clearly many can be kept without the problems you mention and without destroying gardens. You can have the last word. This seems off topic now. Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message t... Doug Kanter wrote: "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message . com... Doug Kanter wrote: "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message igy.net... Doug Kanter wrote: "Arman" wrote in message ... I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. A short list of living things were complete mistakes. Dogs, mosquitoes and viruses. You're wondering how to make your dog behave acceptably? You've got to be kidding. Do the world a favor and slit it throat. add trolls to the list Carl This is not a troll. You've been trained by your dog. With help, you can get your mind back. It'll be a long road, though. Good luck. Don't you feel suggesting someone slit their dog's throat seemed harsh? No, not harsh at all. Like child molesters, dogs have no place in a polite society. Perhaps they were designed to live in packs, in the woods, and clean up rotting dead animal flesh, much like maggots. But, they don't belong anywhere near human populations. I apologize for the troll remark if I misunderstood. Apology accepted. No question folks sometimes do get trained by their dogs, ats and other pet's behaviors. Once you realize what the animal's motivations are, you have half the battle won. Carl All animals have characteristics which are unchangeable. For instance, if you step into a tiger's cage, it is assumed that you want to die, because the vast majority of the time, a tiger will kill you if you stop by for a visit. Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. Well,I think we will have to agree to disagree. many people have found the 'cost/benefit' ratio of keeping 'domesticated' animals (which the dogs we speak of are) satisfactory. And humans have found that true for 10s of thousands of years. Certainly one could focus on the negative aspect of cars, computers and even family members. Doesn't meant they have no place in our lives. Whether its securing property, searching for criminals or explosives or avalanche victims, or just helping to ward off loneliness as a companion, they can be quite useful. Of course, as you allude to, one should educate oneself as to the 'nature' of dogs before associating with them. They are like retarded children in many ways but clearly many can be kept without the problems you mention and without destroying gardens. You can have the last word. This seems off topic now. Carl http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...ife/damage.htm Depending on what kind of attitude a dog owner has when standing in front of a judge, "wildlife" has been interpreted to include stray dogs, and "farm" & "cultivated" have been interpreted to mean "your neighbor's 20x20 foot vegetable garden". |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Arman" wrote in message
... what are you doing in my thread? if you don't have any valid suggestions ... please go crap in your own thread. and if you aren't a troll .. i don't know who else qualifies to it !!!! You have an animal whose way of living involves mischief and destruction if not watched constantly. You stated this yourself, although you don't like it being stated a different way. Don't complain when the animal does exactly what it's expected to do. This is like complaining that your toaster makes your bread a darker color. It's what toasters do. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Arman" wrote in message ... Oren Wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:35:26 +0000, Arman Try: 1 tbs cayenne pepper 1 tbs garlic powder 1-2 drops of liquid dish soap 2 cups water Mix in spray bottle, spray around the area. Re-apply after rain. OR 2 tsp hot sauce 2 crushed cloves 2 tsp liquid dish soap 3 cups water Mix in spray bottle, spray around the area. Re-apply after rain. I've used this method to keep dogs from "shittin'" on the lawn. It won't hurt a lawn and I suspect not your flowers. Oren Hi Oren & others who have made some valid suggestions, Thank you!!!!! I am going to try the moth ball and this spray suggestion and see how it goes. Trouble is where I live, its hot ... real hot .. so i have to water my plants twice a day so they won't wilt. will the moth ball hurt the plants? also how safe is it in vege containers? right now i am growing varieties of lettuce, leafy veges (spinach) and beans, is it safe to keep moth ball in those containers? Moth balls have absolutely no business being in or near edible plants. Since you don't like my comments about dogs, you probably won't believe me, so you might want to call your local poison control center and ask them about it. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
that is what the dog whisperer says.... dogs need an hour walk per day. just letting
them out into the back yard doesnt do it for them. Ingrid "George.com" wrote: yes, you may be very correct. I windered whether it was a symptom of being bored perhaps. Dogs need stimulation and the digging may be a reaction to lack of activities. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
dont use moth balls anywhere outside. they are very very toxic.
yes, the ground up egg shells would be doing it. my dogs eat raw eggs shell and all. dont use blood or bone meal either. and fish or seaweed might temp them too. you might want to try superslurp... those crystals that hold a lot of water so you dont have to water every day. Ingrid Arman wrote: I am going to try the moth ball i like using organic fertiliser, so some i mulch and i also use tea leaves and grounded up egg shells, could they be attracting the dogs? rob, you might have a point abt the dogs being bored. i train and show dogs but recently i've been so busy between work, my toddler, my evening classes at the university and a bunch of house guests who show sign of leaving that i have actually neglected my dogs quite a bit. so like someone here said, now that i've realised that they are bored, maybe doing something abt that will help get them off my plants. hmmm... !! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in
: Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really. i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners cared. i have neighbors with barky dogs (fortunately they're 1/4 mile away). i *did* have a newbie ex-city neighbor who let his dog roam, but the application of a $500 fine stopped that pretty quick...(or said dog was about to meet my .22). the problem is stupid humans, not the dogs. lee -- war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength 1984-George Orwell |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Arman wrote in
: Hi Oren & others who have made some valid suggestions, Thank you!!!!! I am going to try the moth ball and this spray suggestion and see how it goes. Trouble is where I live, its hot ... real hot .. so i have to water my plants twice a day so they won't wilt. will the moth ball hurt the plants? also how safe is it in vege containers? right now i am growing varieties of lettuce, leafy veges (spinach) and beans, is it safe to keep moth ball in those containers? i like using organic fertiliser, so some i mulch and i also use tea leaves and grounded up egg shells, could they be attracting the dogs? rob, you might have a point abt the dogs being bored. i train and show dogs but recently i've been so busy between work, my toddler, my evening classes at the university and a bunch of house guests who show sign of leaving that i have actually neglected my dogs quite a bit. so like someone here said, now that i've realised that they are bored, maybe doing something abt that will help get them off my plants. hmmm... !! you have a toddler? forget the mothballs!!! you shouldn't use them in near food anyway, but they're VERY toxic (and very attractive to toddlers). i strongly suspect doggy boredom, so try taking care of that first. if the plant pots are not very accessable to the child, you might try a solar powered electric fence around them. my son knew all about electric fences at 2, so if you can explain not touching the wires, your child should be ok. oh, you could possibly use an invisble fence to keep the dogs out too... i just use electric fence for my dogs because thier play area is fed off my pasture fencing. lee -- war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength 1984-George Orwell |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"enigma" wrote in message
. .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in : Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really. i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners cared. Well, that's mostly correct. Too many owners have those stupid extendable leash things, and let their dogs run 30 feet into other peoples' property, which often means "right in the flower beds". I ask them politely to not let their dogs stop in my yard in the future, and they say "Well...I'm gonna clean it up". Ummm...no. The dog just ****ed on my flower bed, and I'm 2 minutes away from wanting to work with my hands in that very spot. And, even if they clean up the crap, the scent remains and attracts stray dogs, something I've observed for over 25 years. So, the only acceptable response, when I tell them to do it elsewhere, is "Yes. OK." But, as I've mentioned elsewhere, dogs train humans to do what's convenient, not what's considerate, intelligent and legal. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
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How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Hey guys don't waste energy discussing dogs with Doug:
he doesnt' like dogs; he's very vocal about it....... Period. That's OK though, we love him anyway! Emilie NorCal |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"mleblanca" wrote in message oups.com... Hey guys don't waste energy discussing dogs with Doug: he doesnt' like dogs; he's very vocal about it....... Period. That's OK though, we love him anyway! Emilie NorCal It's a waste of energy because I'm totally correct. I'm correct because I'm good at compartmentalizing, which keeps me from being swayed by the fact that some dogs are actually cute. This keeps my observations pure. |
Hi lee, thank you for the suggestion. my skin kid is now 1.5 yrs old and my fur kids are now 4 yrs old, so i guess the mothballs are out. where did u get ur fence? how much did it cost to get it installed? thanks again, arman. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Arman" wrote in message ... what are you doing in my thread? if you don't have any valid suggestions ... please go crap in your own thread. and if you aren't a troll .. i don't know who else qualifies to it !!!! You have an animal whose way of living involves mischief and destruction if not watched constantly. You stated this yourself, although you don't like it being stated a different way. Don't complain when the animal does exactly what it's expected to do. which is something dog owners take into account when owning them. Kids destroy things and cost a shit load of money and still destroy things as they get older (like cars, nights sleep and bank balances) but we still have them as well. rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message . .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in : Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really. i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners cared. Well, that's mostly correct. Too many owners have those stupid extendable leash things, and let their dogs run 30 feet into other peoples' property, which often means "right in the flower beds". I ask them politely to not let their dogs stop in my yard in the future, and they say "Well...I'm gonna clean it up". Ummm...no. The dog just ****ed on my flower bed, and I'm 2 minutes away from wanting to work with my hands in that very spot. wear gloves, end of problem. And, even if they clean up the crap, the scent remains and attracts stray dogs, something I've observed for over 25 years. So, the only acceptable response, when I tell them to do it elsewhere, is "Yes. OK." But, as I've mentioned elsewhere, dogs train humans to do what's convenient like wearing gardening gloves rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Arman" wrote in message ... what are you doing in my thread? if you don't have any valid suggestions ... please go crap in your own thread. and if you aren't a troll .. i don't know who else qualifies to it !!!! You have an animal whose way of living involves mischief and destruction if not watched constantly. You stated this yourself, although you don't like it being stated a different way. Don't complain when the animal does exactly what it's expected to do. which is something dog owners take into account when owning them. Kids destroy things and cost a shit load of money and still destroy things as they get older (like cars, nights sleep and bank balances) but we still have them as well. rob Yeah, but as the years pass by, most kids become adults. Dogs, on the other hand, are just as disgusting and destructive regardless of their age. no, both my dogs have grown more sedate with age. Even hyper active puppy has moderated. She may still be bouncy but is knows the limits now. Older lazy mutt was lazy as a pup but gets lazier with age. As it is, some destructive kids grow into even more vile adults. We have things called prisons for them. rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message . .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in : Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really. i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners cared. Well, that's mostly correct. Too many owners have those stupid extendable leash things, and let their dogs run 30 feet into other peoples' property, which often means "right in the flower beds". I ask them politely to not let their dogs stop in my yard in the future, and they say "Well...I'm gonna clean it up". Ummm...no. The dog just ****ed on my flower bed, and I'm 2 minutes away from wanting to work with my hands in that very spot. wear gloves, end of problem. And, even if they clean up the crap, the scent remains and attracts stray dogs, something I've observed for over 25 years. So, the only acceptable response, when I tell them to do it elsewhere, is "Yes. OK." But, as I've mentioned elsewhere, dogs train humans to do what's convenient like wearing gardening gloves rob You said I should wear gloves. Do you understand that by saying that, you've stepped into a logical and legal quagmire, and that a judge would lead your around his/her courtroom by the nose until you confessed to being silly? Here's what the judge would probably ask you to think about. You notice some noise outside your house. You step outside and see someone spray painting words on your house in day-glo orange. While your wife's calling the cops, you restrain the guy and ask him what the hell he thinks he's doing. He says "Wear a blindfold, or stay inside and don't look". When the police arrive, what would you expect them to do? How would you expect all of it to proceed, from start to finish? Most important, which basic law was broken when the person spray painted your house? Hint: The law is basically the same everywhere in the United States, Canada, and most of Europe. major problem in your analogy, spray painting property (public or private) is deemed a crime. A dog ****ing in your garden is not. Not picking up dog crap in a public place is punishable by a local body fine. No local body has yet figured out how to make a dog owner pick up dog ****. Far easier for them to insist people who have problems with dog **** wear gardening gloves I would imagine. On the matter of urine Doug, where does your own urine go? Or your pooh? Do you dispose of it on your own property or is it pumped to a municipal waste treatment facility? What potential harm is your own crap doing to water ways, local and global? Can I insist you only dump in your own back yard? rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Dan L." wrote in message ... In article , Arman wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. I feel your pain... I got a new six pound little yorkie for Christmas. This cute yorkie in three months, has dumped two house plants and scattered them all over the living room carpet. Chewed the bark off some of my outside rose bushes. I have tried to doggie proof my home by putting the plants on higher tables, making it difficult for this little yorkie (half dog, half cat and half fox) to be so destructive. my comments are not aimed at you, but rather at the dog haters so please don't take offence. You talk about dog proofing your house. That to me seems a sensible option as a dog owner until the mutt learns the house rules. Is this not something we do as parents, child proof our house? Do we style our environment to safe guard it (and our possessions) from small children roaming or do we simply say 'Johnny is a naughty little shit because he will **** his pants, crap in the corner, get into the cupboards and maybe swallow some poison' and turn into a kid hater. rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message . .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in : Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really. i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners cared. Well, that's mostly correct. Too many owners have those stupid extendable leash things, and let their dogs run 30 feet into other peoples' property, which often means "right in the flower beds". I ask them politely to not let their dogs stop in my yard in the future, and they say "Well...I'm gonna clean it up". Ummm...no. The dog just ****ed on my flower bed, and I'm 2 minutes away from wanting to work with my hands in that very spot. wear gloves, end of problem. And, even if they clean up the crap, the scent remains and attracts stray dogs, something I've observed for over 25 years. So, the only acceptable response, when I tell them to do it elsewhere, is "Yes. OK." But, as I've mentioned elsewhere, dogs train humans to do what's convenient like wearing gardening gloves rob You said I should wear gloves. Do you understand that by saying that, you've stepped into a logical and legal quagmire, and that a judge would lead your around his/her courtroom by the nose until you confessed to being silly? Here's what the judge would probably ask you to think about. You notice some noise outside your house. You step outside and see someone spray painting words on your house in day-glo orange. While your wife's calling the cops, you restrain the guy and ask him what the hell he thinks he's doing. He says "Wear a blindfold, or stay inside and don't look". When the police arrive, what would you expect them to do? How would you expect all of it to proceed, from start to finish? Most important, which basic law was broken when the person spray painted your house? Hint: The law is basically the same everywhere in the United States, Canada, and most of Europe. major problem in your analogy, spray painting property (public or private) is deemed a crime. A dog ****ing in your garden is not. Not picking up dog crap in a public place is punishable by a local body fine. No local body has yet figured out how to make a dog owner pick up dog ****. Far easier for them to insist people who have problems with dog **** wear gardening gloves I would imagine. On the matter of urine Doug, where does your own urine go? Or your pooh? Do you dispose of it on your own property or is it pumped to a municipal waste treatment facility? What potential harm is your own crap doing to water ways, local and global? Can I insist you only dump in your own back yard? rob You're making this too complicated. If a homeowner tells you to take your dog elsewhere, you have no choice but to obey. Otherwise, you've committed civil trespass. That's illegal, and you can be arrested for it. The person spray painting your house has committed the same crime, along with one or two others. When I walk my dogs I exercise control to ensure they **** in appropriate places. If the mutt wanders onto someones property I go and retrieve it. I don't make it a habit Doug of encouraging my mutts to **** in neighbours gardens. Most all dog owners I know exercise the same approach. I doubt the police will be too concerned with my walking on to someones property to retrieve my dog. As far as where my excrement goes, that's a silly question. I don't do it in places where I need to work with my hands. If you think it's cute to let your dog **** where someone needs to work, and that is a highly subjective measure Doug, 'where someone needs to work', and requires a degree of omnipotence. I am not always able to forsee where a person may want to work when walking my dogs. Clearly I do not expect anyone to want to work on the tree in the next 5 minutes or a bushy clump of weeds along the front wall of their section. Whilst efforts are made to ensure dogs **** in areas that will not cause a problem, on the odd occasion they **** in someones garden that someone then wants to weed, a philosophical approach by the gsrdener is by far the best approach. Garden gloves are very simple things to use. rob |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Arman" wrote in message ... what are you doing in my thread? if you don't have any valid suggestions ... please go crap in your own thread. and if you aren't a troll .. i don't know who else qualifies to it !!!! You have an animal whose way of living involves mischief and destruction if not watched constantly. You stated this yourself, although you don't like it being stated a different way. Don't complain when the animal does exactly what it's expected to do. which is something dog owners take into account when owning them. Kids destroy things and cost a shit load of money and still destroy things as they get older (like cars, nights sleep and bank balances) but we still have them as well. rob Yeah, but as the years pass by, most kids become adults. Dogs, on the other hand, are just as disgusting and destructive regardless of their age. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
"George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message . .. "Doug Kanter" wrote in : Dogs are the same way. You can assume certain things about them. Make a list of 10 possible things an unattended dog might do, and if 9 of those things are stupid, destructive or annoying, you can bet a year's pay that the dog will choose one or more of those 9 things 100% of the time. The only acceptable thing it might do is sleep. The other 9 include such delights as crapping on the rug, crapping specifically where innocent people need to walk, barking until the police arrive, biting someone, chewing furniture, wrapping their leashes around trees until they're choking (a good thing, actually, but still stupid), digging in neighbors' gardens. i realize your neighbors are idiots & have badly trained dogs, but not all, or even most, dogs are like that. really. i'm NOT a dog person, but 99% of problem dogs are stupid owners... not only that, but most of those problem dogs could fairly easily be retrained to be good dogs if thier owners cared. Well, that's mostly correct. Too many owners have those stupid extendable leash things, and let their dogs run 30 feet into other peoples' property, which often means "right in the flower beds". I ask them politely to not let their dogs stop in my yard in the future, and they say "Well...I'm gonna clean it up". Ummm...no. The dog just ****ed on my flower bed, and I'm 2 minutes away from wanting to work with my hands in that very spot. wear gloves, end of problem. And, even if they clean up the crap, the scent remains and attracts stray dogs, something I've observed for over 25 years. So, the only acceptable response, when I tell them to do it elsewhere, is "Yes. OK." But, as I've mentioned elsewhere, dogs train humans to do what's convenient like wearing gardening gloves rob You said I should wear gloves. Do you understand that by saying that, you've stepped into a logical and legal quagmire, and that a judge would lead your around his/her courtroom by the nose until you confessed to being silly? Here's what the judge would probably ask you to think about. You notice some noise outside your house. You step outside and see someone spray painting words on your house in day-glo orange. While your wife's calling the cops, you restrain the guy and ask him what the hell he thinks he's doing. He says "Wear a blindfold, or stay inside and don't look". When the police arrive, what would you expect them to do? How would you expect all of it to proceed, from start to finish? Most important, which basic law was broken when the person spray painted your house? Hint: The law is basically the same everywhere in the United States, Canada, and most of Europe. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
nahhh... it doesnt work that way. I also try dragging them out of the house by their
leash to teach em not to cross the threshold. when I say "heeL" they fall right in next to me and they are always a good dog. and I drag them but never say their name. Ingrid "J.R. in MI" wrote: wrote: sigh. it is a training thing. put a leash on them. walk them up to the plant, point to it, yell no and haul them away. This is not good, teaching them it's bad to follow your lead. Try mouse traps, immediate and virtually harmless reinforcement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?...s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
Arman wrote in
: i strongly suspect doggy boredom, so try taking care of that first. if the plant pots are not very accessable to the child, you might try a solar powered electric fence around them. my son knew all about electric fences at 2, so if you can explain not touching the wires, your child should be ok. oh, you could possibly use an invisble fence to keep the dogs out too... i just use electric fence for my dogs because thier play area is fed off my pasture fencing. thank you for the suggestion. my skin kid is now 1.5 yrs old and my fur kids are now 4 yrs old, so i guess the mothballs are out. where did u get ur fence? how much did it cost to get it installed? we installed our own fencing... we have electric fencing for our livestock pasture, so we just put in temporary fence poles (used for dividing pasture usually) & strung electric fence wire at 1', 2' & 4' (my dogs are big). then we ran a wire from the pasture fence to the dog fence to charge it. basic livestock fencing isn't too expensive. the chargers are the most expensive part (unless you get rolls of portable fence. that stuff is expensive!). chargers here costs around US$80-100, for under 5 miles. i think you might want to look for a local 'invisible fence' supplier. they install a radio fence line below ground & the dogs wear a collar with a transponder. if they get too close to the buried line, they get a shock. the advantage to that over electric fence is the child won't accidentally get shocked by touching the fence. lee -- war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength 1984-George Orwell |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:30:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "George.com" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Arman" wrote in message ... what are you doing in my thread? if you don't have any valid suggestions ... please go crap in your own thread. and if you aren't a troll .. i don't know who else qualifies to it !!!! You have an animal whose way of living involves mischief and destruction if not watched constantly. You stated this yourself, although you don't like it being stated a different way. Don't complain when the animal does exactly what it's expected to do. which is something dog owners take into account when owning them. Kids destroy things and cost a shit load of money and still destroy things as they get older (like cars, nights sleep and bank balances) but we still have them as well. rob Yeah, but as the years pass by, most kids become adults. Dogs, on the other hand, are just as disgusting and destructive regardless of their age. And (many) adults are not disgusting and destructive? Persephone |
How to keep dogs off my container plants??
In article ,
Arman wrote: I have had moderate amount of success with my potted garden but now my dogs have gone and dug them up. i've managed to salvage about 6 of them but the casualties of war ran up quite high this time. 6 broken pots and 20 dead plants later, i've resorted to tie-ins and crating but i would love any idea that would make my potted plants unappetising and unappealing to my dogs. i've been toying with the idea of burying barb wires around the outer perimeter of my pots. would that help? has anyone tried this before? any ideas are most welcome. i love my dogs and i love my flowering plants, so i would like to find a solution that allows them to co-exist peacefully. thank you all, arman. I feel your pain... I got a new six pound little yorkie for Christmas. This cute yorkie in three months, has dumped two house plants and scattered them all over the living room carpet. Chewed the bark off some of my outside rose bushes. I have tried to doggie proof my home by putting the plants on higher tables, making it difficult for this little yorkie (half dog, half cat and half fox) to be so destructive. I have seen a product called "Scat Mat" which is like barbed wire that is made with plastic instead of metal at http://www.gardeners.com I have not purchased it yet and I do not know if it works. I have also found an excellent dog training book called, "Good Owners, Great Dogs by Brian Kilcommons". A very useful book! I hope this response helps :) Dan............. ================================================== = Do not respond by email, I hope it doesn't work :) -- No email or junk mail please. The address above should not work (I hope). |
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