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Old 31-03-2006, 05:54 PM posted to rec.gardens
 
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We have Penny Royal as a ground cover. Until recently it was doing
incredibly well. A few months ago we noticed one of the plants had been
stripped entirely of it's leaves. For a while after that nothing more
happened.

Recently whatever it was returned and went a little crazy. Most of the
plants are now stripped to their stalks. We've spent hours looking over
the plants for possible culprits but have found nothing that explains
it. A single caterpillar here, or beetle there but nothing in the kind
of numbers I'd expect to do this kind of damage so quickly.

I started looking on the net for answers. It seems that Penny Royal is
a popular pest repellent which leaves me further perplexed. If it's so
good at repelling insects what could possibly be eating it?

Assuming we can identify it the next question is what can we do to
control it? We're against anything that might negatively affect the
local insect, plant or animal life. And we're even happy to cede a
percentage of the plants to whatever it is. But this total devastation
is hard to accept.

Anyone got any ideas?

James

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Old 31-03-2006, 08:20 PM posted to rec.gardens
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We have Penny Royal as a ground cover. Until recently it was doing
incredibly well. A few months ago we noticed one of the plants had been
stripped entirely of it's leaves. For a while after that nothing more
happened.

Recently whatever it was returned and went a little crazy. Most of the
plants are now stripped to their stalks. We've spent hours looking over
the plants for possible culprits but have found nothing that explains
it. A single caterpillar here, or beetle there but nothing in the kind
of numbers I'd expect to do this kind of damage so quickly.

I started looking on the net for answers. It seems that Penny Royal is
a popular pest repellent which leaves me further perplexed. If it's so
good at repelling insects what could possibly be eating it?

Assuming we can identify it the next question is what can we do to
control it? We're against anything that might negatively affect the
local insect, plant or animal life. And we're even happy to cede a
percentage of the plants to whatever it is. But this total devastation
is hard to accept.

Anyone got any ideas?

James


You didn't mention where you were, but what about deer, woodchucks or other
herbivores? Even if it's not part of their normal diet, animals are known to
discover new things, or self-medicate.


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Old 31-03-2006, 10:00 PM posted to rec.gardens
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I think you should start looking over the neighborhood and not the plant.
Does this only happen when you aren't home or at night? Do you have anyone
near by making sachets? Start sniffing your neighbor's breath for the scent
of penny royal tea, usually what the leaves are used for. I'd set up
surveillance, park your car around the block, tuck some branches in your
hat and be vewwy, vewwy qwiet

Val


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We have Penny Royal as a ground cover. Until recently it was doing
incredibly well. A few months ago we noticed one of the plants had been
stripped entirely of it's leaves. For a while after that nothing more
happened.

Recently whatever it was returned and went a little crazy. Most of the
plants are now stripped to their stalks. We've spent hours looking over
the plants for possible culprits but have found nothing that explains
it. A single caterpillar here, or beetle there but nothing in the kind
of numbers I'd expect to do this kind of damage so quickly.

I started looking on the net for answers. It seems that Penny Royal is
a popular pest repellent which leaves me further perplexed. If it's so
good at repelling insects what could possibly be eating it?

Assuming we can identify it the next question is what can we do to
control it? We're against anything that might negatively affect the
local insect, plant or animal life. And we're even happy to cede a
percentage of the plants to whatever it is. But this total devastation
is hard to accept.

Anyone got any ideas?

James



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Old 14-04-2006, 05:45 PM posted to rec.gardens
 
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We had exactly the same problem. No idea.

I recommend going out at night with a torch. I'll bet you find dozens
of caterpillars on the mint. We spent a few night going out and picking
them off and our mint is slowly recovering. I still don't know what
species of caterpillar they are, I found the same perplexing
pest-repellant info on the web too.

James

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We have Penny Royal as a ground cover. Until recently it was doing
incredibly well. A few months ago we noticed one of the plants had been
stripped entirely of it's leaves. For a while after that nothing more
happened.

Recently whatever it was returned and went a little crazy. Most of the
plants are now stripped to their stalks. We've spent hours looking over
the plants for possible culprits but have found nothing that explains
it. A single caterpillar here, or beetle there but nothing in the kind
of numbers I'd expect to do this kind of damage so quickly.

I started looking on the net for answers. It seems that Penny Royal is
a popular pest repellent which leaves me further perplexed. If it's so
good at repelling insects what could possibly be eating it?

Assuming we can identify it the next question is what can we do to
control it? We're against anything that might negatively affect the
local insect, plant or animal life. And we're even happy to cede a
percentage of the plants to whatever it is. But this total devastation
is hard to accept.

Anyone got any ideas?

James

"If you see skeletonized leaves on your mints (peppermint and
pennyroyal seem especially affected), or webbing and small brown specks
(caterpillar feces) on your rosemary, sage or thyme, then it's time
to start looking for the culprit. Before determining how to rid your
garden of pests, it's important to identify exactly what the problem
is. Look for very small caterpillars (usually 1/4 inch or less) that
are light green in color, and usually wound up in thick webbing. Once
you have determined that this is indeed the problem there are several
options for control. If you only have one plant that is affected,
removing all of the webbing, dead leaves and caterpillars may provide
ample control. For more substantial damage the best control may be to
use an organic microbial pesticide called Bacillus thuringiensis, or Bt
for short, which is a pathogen that is ingested by feeding caterpillars
and destroys their stomach cells. Within several days the caterpillars
will cease feeding on your plants and die. One trade name this product
is sold under is Caterpillar Killer. It's important to note that it
will also kill butterfly caterpillars, so only treat affected plants.
Bt breaks down rapidly in light, so it is best to spray in the late
afternoon so the caterpillars have maximum feeding time. Don't forget
to follow the label directions carefully (the label is the law) and
never use more pesticide than recommended. Happy hunting!"--Rose
Loveall-Sale, Horticulturist

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