I just bought a house that was vacant for months, after hurrican Wilma came
through three large black olive trees in front of the house were damaged.

I called the tree company out and they said two of them need heavy pruning,
and because it was never properly pruned there are some rot and termite
infestation as well. But they cannot trim it because it's the County's
trees. The third one is completely unbalanced and is a hazard waiting to
happen, it's leaning and the root is coming up a bit on the other side,
bulging the concrete sidewalk.

All three trees are on the side of the County's street and outside of my
property line. I was told I am responsible to maintain these trees even
though they are not mine technically.

The County told me to trim and prune trees I need a file a permit. Over
$100 per tree. Now the tree guy will prune it for $300 a tree, and an
additional $600 to haul away the branches. If the unbalanced tree need
removal, I have to pay much more...for removal, for stump grinding and for
hauling away, and County require a 100% canopy replacement and higher permit
fee. This will result in thousands!!!

This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for things
like this!

MC

"miamicuse" wrote in message
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I just bought a house that was vacant for months, after hurrican Wilma came
through three large black olive trees in front of the house were damaged.

I called the tree company out and they said two of them need heavy
pruning,
and because it was never properly pruned there are some rot and termite
infestation as well. But they cannot trim it because it's the County's
trees. The third one is completely unbalanced and is a hazard waiting to
happen, it's leaning and the root is coming up a bit on the other side,
bulging the concrete sidewalk.

All three trees are on the side of the County's street and outside of my
property line. I was told I am responsible to maintain these trees even
though they are not mine technically.

The County told me to trim and prune trees I need a file a permit. Over
$100 per tree. Now the tree guy will prune it for $300 a tree, and an
additional $600 to haul away the branches. If the unbalanced tree need
removal, I have to pay much more...for removal, for stump grinding and for
hauling away, and County require a 100% canopy replacement and higher
permit
fee. This will result in thousands!!!

This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for
things
like this!

MC


Time to seek legal advice. You can also ask on the misc.legal group.

"Mindful" wrote in message
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"miamicuse" wrote in message
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I just bought a house that was vacant for months, after hurrican Wilma
came
through three large black olive trees in front of the house were damaged.

I called the tree company out and they said two of them need heavy
pruning,
and because it was never properly pruned there are some rot and termite
infestation as well. But they cannot trim it because it's the County's
trees. The third one is completely unbalanced and is a hazard waiting to
happen, it's leaning and the root is coming up a bit on the other side,
bulging the concrete sidewalk.

All three trees are on the side of the County's street and outside of my
property line. I was told I am responsible to maintain these trees even
though they are not mine technically.

The County told me to trim and prune trees I need a file a permit. Over
$100 per tree. Now the tree guy will prune it for $300 a tree, and an
additional $600 to haul away the branches. If the unbalanced tree need
removal, I have to pay much more...for removal, for stump grinding and
for
hauling away, and County require a 100% canopy replacement and higher
permit
fee. This will result in thousands!!!

This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for
things
like this!

MC

I'm not clear on exactly WHAT you asked the county. You say they advised you
about the need for a permit. But, did you ask THEM who was responsible for
maintaining those trees? Or, did the "facts" come from the tree service
company?

In article says...
This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for things
like this!

I seriously doubt this is true but if somehow there are facts you left
out that make it true, I would suggest getting someone to just trim the
trees without a permit and be done with it. Unless you live in a county
occupied with a large percentage of anal-retentives, no one would ever
know or care what you did -- especially if it makes the tree look nicer.
I trim trees all the time in my parkway when technically I would need a
permit to do so. If I'm too lazy to get a permit I can just call the
city to come out and do it for free however you never know if you end up
with a tree butcher crew who doesn't know anything about trees and they
start hacking away indiscriminately. That's why I just do it myself.

Mark Anderson wrote:

In article says...
This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for things
like this!

I seriously doubt this is true but if somehow there are facts you left
out that make it true, I would suggest getting someone to just trim the
trees without a permit and be done with it. Unless you live in a county
occupied with a large percentage of anal-retentives, no one would ever
know or care what you did -- especially if it makes the tree look nicer.

Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.


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If I had something witty to say, this is where I'd say it.

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"Mindful" wrote in message
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"miamicuse" wrote in message
...
I just bought a house that was vacant for months, after hurrican Wilma
came
through three large black olive trees in front of the house were
damaged.

I called the tree company out and they said two of them need heavy
pruning,
and because it was never properly pruned there are some rot and termite
infestation as well. But they cannot trim it because it's the County's
trees. The third one is completely unbalanced and is a hazard waiting
to
happen, it's leaning and the root is coming up a bit on the other side,
bulging the concrete sidewalk.

All three trees are on the side of the County's street and outside of
my
property line. I was told I am responsible to maintain these trees
even
though they are not mine technically.

The County told me to trim and prune trees I need a file a permit.
Over
$100 per tree. Now the tree guy will prune it for $300 a tree, and an
additional $600 to haul away the branches. If the unbalanced tree need
removal, I have to pay much more...for removal, for stump grinding and
for
hauling away, and County require a 100% canopy replacement and higher
permit
fee. This will result in thousands!!!

This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for
things
like this!

MC

I'm not clear on exactly WHAT you asked the county. You say they advised
you
about the need for a permit. But, did you ask THEM who was responsible for
maintaining those trees? Or, did the "facts" come from the tree service
company?



I asked them who is responsible for these trees in the swale area outside my
property line. They said I am and I also have to mow the grass underneath.

I then asked them there are some dangling broken branches as well as one
tree is very badly balanced and the root is kicking up the sidewalk. What
should I do? They said I need to trim it or remove it. They then said I
can only trim up to 25%.

If I want to remove it a permit need to be applied for, and it will be $140
per tree for the permit, plus the cost to the tree company to trim it, and a
lot more to haul the trimmings away.

MC

"John Hines" wrote in message
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Mark Anderson wrote:

In article says...
This is not even on my property! I thought I pay property taxes for
things
like this!

I seriously doubt this is true but if somehow there are facts you left
out that make it true, I would suggest getting someone to just trim the
trees without a permit and be done with it. Unless you live in a county
occupied with a large percentage of anal-retentives, no one would ever
know or care what you did -- especially if it makes the tree look nicer.

Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.


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They are indeed.

In article says...
Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.

I am now pondering the thought of whether it's better to be in one of
the most nit-picking counties in the country, Miami-Dade, or one of the
most corrupt counties in the country, Cook County, or more fondly known
by residents as Crook County. Interesting dilemma!

Mark Anderson wrote:

In article says...
Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.

I am now pondering the thought of whether it's better to be in one of
the most nit-picking counties in the country, Miami-Dade, or one of the
most corrupt counties in the country, Cook County, or more fondly known
by residents as Crook County. Interesting dilemma!

AFAIK (and I'm in DuPage co) Cook doesn't require paying for permits to
trim trees.

Cook co gets hit by hurricanes a LOT less often than Miami-Dade co does.

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If I had something witty to say, this is where I'd say it.

Mark Anderson wrote:
In article says...
Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.

I am now pondering the thought of whether it's better to be in one of
the most nit-picking counties in the country, Miami-Dade, or one of the
most corrupt counties in the country, Cook County, or more fondly known
by residents as Crook County. Interesting dilemma!

Going OT and thought I'd chime in. Up here we have Cook Country
President John Stroger who just had a stroke (before an election) and
the press and public have been kept totally in the dark about his
condition. He was re-elected by a narrow margin, and can be replaced by
the board without election. His family will make no comment on his
condition, but said they'll make a decision sometime in July. Daley
yes-men.

Trees? Buddy up with a city worker on your block, and they'll be
trimmed that week.

Merle O'Broham Mark Anderson wrote:
In article says...
Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.

I am now pondering the thought of whether it's better to be in one of
the most nit-picking counties in the country, Miami-Dade, or one of the
most corrupt counties in the country, Cook County, or more fondly known
by residents as Crook County. Interesting dilemma!

Going OT and thought I'd chime in. Up here we have Cook Country
President John Stroger who just had a stroke (before an election) and
the press and public have been kept totally in the dark about his
condition. He was re-elected by a narrow margin, and can be replaced by
the board without election. His family will make no comment on his
condition, but said they'll make a decision sometime in July. Daley
yes-men.

Trees? Buddy up with a city worker on your block, and they'll be
trimmed that week.


to anyone who doubted that MC was telling the truth just take a look at this link and i think u will find that what MC is saying is the truth.
http://www.hialeahfl.gov/dept/streets/faq/
thats nuts that u should be responsible for the counties trees here the cities or the county look after the trees on the lot line properties.
i dont know what makes them so darn special that they have to fork their own darn work over onto others. other than the fact that they then dont have to pay for things. thats nothing but garbage for darn sure.
good luck with what u are doing MC. i think i would do also just get someone in that i know and trim the stupid trees and get it over with.
cyaaa, sockiescat.

"Mark Anderson" wrote in message
.net...
In article says...
Look at the guys email addy. MIAMI. Miami-Dade county is one of the
most nit-picking counties in the country.

I am now pondering the thought of whether it's better to be in one of
the most nit-picking counties in the country, Miami-Dade, or one of the
most corrupt counties in the country, Cook County, or more fondly known
by residents as Crook County. Interesting dilemma!




Wait a minute there. I think Miami has enough county and city officials
involved in corruption that can give you a run for your money.

MC

In article says...
AFAIK (and I'm in DuPage co) Cook doesn't require paying for permits to
trim trees.

In the City of Chicago I was told that in order to trim a tree in the
parkway (the parkway being the city's land between the sidewalk and the
street) myself I would need to pull a permit however I could call the
city's tree trimmers and they'd come out and do it for free. I don't
trust the city's tree trimmers.

In article says...
Trees? Buddy up with a city worker on your block, and they'll be
trimmed that week.

After the last time the city's tree butchers came and vandalized my
(well I've adopted them and take care of them) trees (and I didn't call
them out either) I have my buddy with the city who has some influence
make sure they never come back.

Mark Anderson wrote:
In article says...
Trees? Buddy up with a city worker on your block, and they'll be
trimmed that week.

After the last time the city's tree butchers came and vandalized my
(well I've adopted them and take care of them) trees (and I didn't call
them out either) I have my buddy with the city who has some influence
make sure they never come back.

LOL! Sounds about right. Oh, you wanted *properly* trimmed trees? Yeah,
you can't really trust some alderman's HS nephew who just needed a
summer job! ;-)