I purchased 26 potted, 5 to 6', Swedish Aspen and paid to have them planted
in the spring. It was raining when they were planted, and it rained for
several days after. Even during the rain, the trees were beginning to drop
their leaves and die. Several months later, around half a dozen trees are
growing - only one is somewhat healthy.

The trees had yellow leaves when they were planted and they were BARE ROOT
(not potted as per my order). The trees were also chloritic when planted
(yellow leaves) because it was late in the season, and they had been keeping
them in cold/dark storage to keep them from pushing out their leaves.

The nursery has agreed to provide replacement trees for free (there is a 5
year guarantee on them), but they want me to pay the fees to plant them
again. I am upset that I am going to have to pay a second planting fee for
the following reasons:

1) I believe potted plants are more hardy than bare root plants, and if they
had delivered and planted what I ordered, there is a good chance most of
them would be alive. The lady at the nursery completely disagrees with this
statement. She has indicated that their potted trees are just bare root
trees that they stick in a pot that same spring. In my case, they simply
ran out of time to pot them. This sounds a bit odd to me because I thought
nursuries typically charge more money for potted plants and I was under the
assumption this was because the plants were rooted better and more likely to
establish themselves when transplanted.
2) The trees were dead & dieing within days of being planted. I suspect
they knew that a lot of the trees were not going to make it when they
planted them.

I am not a gardener. If my expectations of the nursery are too high because
of my ignorance, please set me straight. I got a little carried away when I
spoke to the owner of the nursery, and I may owe them an apology........

Thank you,
Chris

C wrote:
I purchased 26 potted, 5 to 6', Swedish Aspen and paid to have them planted
in the spring. It was raining when they were planted, and it rained for
several days after. Even during the rain, the trees were beginning to drop
their leaves and die. Several months later, around half a dozen trees are
growing - only one is somewhat healthy.

The trees had yellow leaves when they were planted and they were BARE ROOT
(not potted as per my order). The trees were also chloritic when planted
(yellow leaves) because it was late in the season, and they had been keeping
them in cold/dark storage to keep them from pushing out their leaves.

The nursery has agreed to provide replacement trees for free (there is a 5
year guarantee on them), but they want me to pay the fees to plant them
again. I am upset that I am going to have to pay a second planting fee for
the following reasons:

1) I believe potted plants are more hardy than bare root plants, and if they
had delivered and planted what I ordered, there is a good chance most of
them would be alive. The lady at the nursery completely disagrees with this
statement. She has indicated that their potted trees are just bare root
trees that they stick in a pot that same spring. In my case, they simply
ran out of time to pot them. This sounds a bit odd to me because I thought
nursuries typically charge more money for potted plants and I was under the
assumption this was because the plants were rooted better and more likely to
establish themselves when transplanted.
2) The trees were dead & dieing within days of being planted. I suspect
they knew that a lot of the trees were not going to make it when they
planted them.

I am not a gardener. If my expectations of the nursery are too high because
of my ignorance, please set me straight. I got a little carried away when I
spoke to the owner of the nursery, and I may owe them an apology........

Thank you,
Chris


Hi Chris,no i dont think you are wrong here,cant you plant the news
ones yourselfe?
Or maybe get a friend to help.

Von.

C wrote:
I purchased 26 potted, 5 to 6', Swedish Aspen and paid to have them planted
in the spring. It was raining when they were planted, and it rained for
several days after. Even during the rain, the trees were beginning to drop
their leaves and die. Several months later, around half a dozen trees are
growing - only one is somewhat healthy.

The trees had yellow leaves when they were planted and they were BARE ROOT
(not potted as per my order). The trees were also chloritic when planted
(yellow leaves) because it was late in the season, and they had been keeping
them in cold/dark storage to keep them from pushing out their leaves.

The nursery has agreed to provide replacement trees for free (there is a 5
year guarantee on them), but they want me to pay the fees to plant them
again. I am upset that I am going to have to pay a second planting fee for
the following reasons:

1) I believe potted plants are more hardy than bare root plants, and if they
had delivered and planted what I ordered, there is a good chance most of
them would be alive. The lady at the nursery completely disagrees with this
statement. She has indicated that their potted trees are just bare root
trees that they stick in a pot that same spring. In my case, they simply
ran out of time to pot them. This sounds a bit odd to me because I thought
nursuries typically charge more money for potted plants and I was under the
assumption this was because the plants were rooted better and more likely to
establish themselves when transplanted.
2) The trees were dead & dieing within days of being planted. I suspect
they knew that a lot of the trees were not going to make it when they
planted them.

I am not a gardener. If my expectations of the nursery are too high because
of my ignorance, please set me straight. I got a little carried away when I
spoke to the owner of the nursery, and I may owe them an apology........

Thank you,
Chris


Hi Chris,no i dont think you are wrong here,cant you plant the news
ones yourselfe?
Or maybe get a friend to help.

Von.

chris u are far from wrong on this issue they are using unfair business practices which
is totally illegal.
now u didnt say where u are from but if u are in the united states here is a copy of
the consumer protection act which does tell u that they were fraudulent in
respect to what they did because they didnt follow through on exactly what u had
ordered. also they cannot do a substitution without your permission.
http://www.csrl.org/modellaws/protection.html
try going here they might be able to help u its the link to consumer protection agency.
http://www.consumerprotectionassociation.org/index.html
now go to the left hand side and click on contact us. send them an email and if u are in the wrong area they might be able to direct u to where u can get help on this issue .
so good luck and let us know how it goes. cyaaaaaa, sockiescat.

If you noticed they were chlorotic at planting time, why did you allow the
installer to continue with the work?

C wrote:
I purchased 26 potted, 5 to 6', Swedish Aspen and paid to have them planted
in the spring. It was raining when they were planted, and it rained for
several days after. Even during the rain, the trees were beginning to drop
their leaves and die. Several months later, around half a dozen trees are
growing - only one is somewhat healthy.

The trees had yellow leaves when they were planted and they were BARE ROOT
(not potted as per my order). The trees were also chloritic when planted
(yellow leaves) because it was late in the season, and they had been keeping
them in cold/dark storage to keep them from pushing out their leaves.

The nursery has agreed to provide replacement trees for free (there is a 5
year guarantee on them), but they want me to pay the fees to plant them
again. I am upset that I am going to have to pay a second planting fee for
the following reasons:

1) I believe potted plants are more hardy than bare root plants, and if they
had delivered and planted what I ordered, there is a good chance most of
them would be alive. The lady at the nursery completely disagrees with this
statement. She has indicated that their potted trees are just bare root
trees that they stick in a pot that same spring. In my case, they simply
ran out of time to pot them. This sounds a bit odd to me because I thought
nursuries typically charge more money for potted plants and I was under the
assumption this was because the plants were rooted better and more likely to
establish themselves when transplanted.
2) The trees were dead & dieing within days of being planted. I suspect
they knew that a lot of the trees were not going to make it when they
planted them.

I am not a gardener. If my expectations of the nursery are too high because
of my ignorance, please set me straight. I got a little carried away when I
spoke to the owner of the nursery, and I may owe them an apology........

Thank you,
Chris




I have to ask you first....knowing that Aspens are yellow in the fall
only, why didn't you stop them from planting them right away? Aspens
are suckering plants. those great stands of them are one tree. not
many. if the trees were showing that they were dead and dying after
only days of planting, the nursery should guarantee them for at least
the first six months (barring that you kept them watered and such until
they showed they were establishing or dying). No, rather than chewing
out the nursery owner, take it to small claims court if you have to.
Are you able to plant the replacements yourself? have friends as
suggested to help? you shouldn't have to pay them to replant the trees
when they sold and planted sick or dying trees. check and see if they
have a simple guarantee. if they only guarantee for 30 days or even
half a year, you might only be able to get them to replace them. if
they only are libel to replace dead trees, go to the nursery, and pick
out good, healthy trees (fall is a great time to plant trees......)
bare root or potted, a $50 hole for a tree is the best, nothing deeper
than the tree's roots spread out, no mulch higher than three inches
around each tree, water well and if you HAVE to stake it, thread old
garden hose to keep from cutting into the young tree's bark and loose
enough to give a bit in the winds. Makes for a stronger tree in the
long run.

Check your bill of sales and see what rights you have. and are you
talking that now, since we're officially into fall, you've only started
asking for replacements now? well, get the trees out of them, and find
some friends to help plant them, or go into the phone book and call a
LANDSCAPER.............or two and get some prices. I'd rather pay a
landscaper to plant a tree or shrub than someone at a nursery. unless
this nursery has a landscape section of their business. if THAT'S the
case, take them to small claims and see if you have a leg to stand on
(or a trunk...g) I'm serious. and learn from this and don't let it
stop you from planting more trees and shrubs and perennials and annuals
and other stuff in the future. that's what makes gardening great and an
adventure.
madgardener who plants her own trees...................

I will most likely plant the trees by myself. It's the principle of it that
bugs me! They aren't that hard to plant, but I thought that if I pay them
to plant them, then it makes it easier for warranty claims.

Unfortunately, I wasn't knowledgeable enough on the trees to question that
they were put in the ground with yellow leaves. I did see them planting
them with bare roots - it wasn't until I went back to the bill of sale (when
I knew they were dieing), that I identified that they were supposed to be
potted. It goes to show how much of a gardener I am......

Chris




"madgardener" wrote in message
...
C wrote:
I purchased 26 potted, 5 to 6', Swedish Aspen and paid to have them
planted in the spring. It was raining when they were planted, and it
rained for several days after. Even during the rain, the trees were
beginning to drop their leaves and die. Several months later, around
half a dozen trees are growing - only one is somewhat healthy.

The trees had yellow leaves when they were planted and they were BARE
ROOT (not potted as per my order). The trees were also chloritic when
planted (yellow leaves) because it was late in the season, and they had
been keeping them in cold/dark storage to keep them from pushing out
their leaves.

The nursery has agreed to provide replacement trees for free (there is a
5 year guarantee on them), but they want me to pay the fees to plant them
again. I am upset that I am going to have to pay a second planting fee
for the following reasons:

1) I believe potted plants are more hardy than bare root plants, and if
they had delivered and planted what I ordered, there is a good chance
most of them would be alive. The lady at the nursery completely
disagrees with this statement. She has indicated that their potted trees
are just bare root trees that they stick in a pot that same spring. In
my case, they simply ran out of time to pot them. This sounds a bit odd
to me because I thought nursuries typically charge more money for potted
plants and I was under the assumption this was because the plants were
rooted better and more likely to establish themselves when transplanted.
2) The trees were dead & dieing within days of being planted. I suspect
they knew that a lot of the trees were not going to make it when they
planted them.

I am not a gardener. If my expectations of the nursery are too high
because of my ignorance, please set me straight. I got a little carried
away when I spoke to the owner of the nursery, and I may owe them an
apology........

Thank you,
Chris




I have to ask you first....knowing that Aspens are yellow in the fall
only, why didn't you stop them from planting them right away? Aspens are
suckering plants. those great stands of them are one tree. not many. if
the trees were showing that they were dead and dying after only days of
planting, the nursery should guarantee them for at least the first six
months (barring that you kept them watered and such until they showed they
were establishing or dying). No, rather than chewing out the nursery
owner, take it to small claims court if you have to. Are you able to
plant the replacements yourself? have friends as suggested to help? you
shouldn't have to pay them to replant the trees when they sold and planted
sick or dying trees. check and see if they have a simple guarantee. if
they only guarantee for 30 days or even half a year, you might only be
able to get them to replace them. if they only are libel to replace dead
trees, go to the nursery, and pick out good, healthy trees (fall is a
great time to plant trees......) bare root or potted, a $50 hole for a
tree is the best, nothing deeper than the tree's roots spread out, no
mulch higher than three inches around each tree, water well and if you
HAVE to stake it, thread old garden hose to keep from cutting into the
young tree's bark and loose enough to give a bit in the winds. Makes for
a stronger tree in the long run.

Check your bill of sales and see what rights you have. and are you
talking that now, since we're officially into fall, you've only started
asking for replacements now? well, get the trees out of them, and find
some friends to help plant them, or go into the phone book and call a
LANDSCAPER.............or two and get some prices. I'd rather pay a
landscaper to plant a tree or shrub than someone at a nursery. unless this
nursery has a landscape section of their business. if THAT'S the case,
take them to small claims and see if you have a leg to stand on (or a
trunk...g) I'm serious. and learn from this and don't let it stop you
from planting more trees and shrubs and perennials and annuals and other
stuff in the future. that's what makes gardening great and an adventure.
madgardener who plants her own trees...................

Today's NY Times has an article about the fact that aspens in some western
states are dying of an unknown disease. Perhaps that is part of the
problem? You don't say where you live. Here's the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/26/sc...h/26aspen.html. If it doesn't
work, I can copy the text and send that, if you're interested.
helco

"C" wrote in message
news:qDwRg.33119$cz3.11592@edtnps82...
I will most likely plant the trees by myself. It's the principle of it
that bugs me! They aren't that hard to plant, but I thought that if I pay
them to plant them, then it makes it easier for warranty claims.

Unfortunately, I wasn't knowledgeable enough on the trees to question that
they were put in the ground with yellow leaves. I did see them planting
them with bare roots - it wasn't until I went back to the bill of sale
(when I knew they were dieing), that I identified that they were supposed
to be potted. It goes to show how much of a gardener I am......

Chris




"madgardener" wrote in message
...
C wrote:
I purchased 26 potted, 5 to 6', Swedish Aspen and paid to have them
planted in the spring. It was raining when they were planted, and it
rained for several days after. Even during the rain, the trees were
beginning to drop their leaves and die. Several months later, around
half a dozen trees are growing - only one is somewhat healthy.

The trees had yellow leaves when they were planted and they were BARE
ROOT (not potted as per my order). The trees were also chloritic when
planted (yellow leaves) because it was late in the season, and they had
been keeping them in cold/dark storage to keep them from pushing out
their leaves.

The nursery has agreed to provide replacement trees for free (there is a
5 year guarantee on them), but they want me to pay the fees to plant
them again. I am upset that I am going to have to pay a second planting
fee for the following reasons:

1) I believe potted plants are more hardy than bare root plants, and if
they had delivered and planted what I ordered, there is a good chance
most of them would be alive. The lady at the nursery completely
disagrees with this statement. She has indicated that their potted
trees are just bare root trees that they stick in a pot that same
spring. In my case, they simply ran out of time to pot them. This
sounds a bit odd to me because I thought nursuries typically charge more
money for potted plants and I was under the assumption this was because
the plants were rooted better and more likely to establish themselves
when transplanted.
2) The trees were dead & dieing within days of being planted. I suspect
they knew that a lot of the trees were not going to make it when they
planted them.

I am not a gardener. If my expectations of the nursery are too high
because of my ignorance, please set me straight. I got a little carried
away when I spoke to the owner of the nursery, and I may owe them an
apology........

Thank you,
Chris




I have to ask you first....knowing that Aspens are yellow in the fall
only, why didn't you stop them from planting them right away? Aspens are
suckering plants. those great stands of them are one tree. not many. if
the trees were showing that they were dead and dying after only days of
planting, the nursery should guarantee them for at least the first six
months (barring that you kept them watered and such until they showed
they were establishing or dying). No, rather than chewing out the
nursery owner, take it to small claims court if you have to. Are you
able to plant the replacements yourself? have friends as suggested to
help? you shouldn't have to pay them to replant the trees when they sold
and planted sick or dying trees. check and see if they have a simple
guarantee. if they only guarantee for 30 days or even half a year, you
might only be able to get them to replace them. if they only are libel
to replace dead trees, go to the nursery, and pick out good, healthy
trees (fall is a great time to plant trees......) bare root or potted, a
$50 hole for a tree is the best, nothing deeper than the tree's roots
spread out, no mulch higher than three inches around each tree, water
well and if you HAVE to stake it, thread old garden hose to keep from
cutting into the young tree's bark and loose enough to give a bit in the
winds. Makes for a stronger tree in the long run.

Check your bill of sales and see what rights you have. and are you
talking that now, since we're officially into fall, you've only started
asking for replacements now? well, get the trees out of them, and find
some friends to help plant them, or go into the phone book and call a
LANDSCAPER.............or two and get some prices. I'd rather pay a
landscaper to plant a tree or shrub than someone at a nursery. unless
this nursery has a landscape section of their business. if THAT'S the
case, take them to small claims and see if you have a leg to stand on (or
a trunk...g) I'm serious. and learn from this and don't let it stop you
from planting more trees and shrubs and perennials and annuals and other
stuff in the future. that's what makes gardening great and an adventure.
madgardener who plants her own trees...................

In article , helco wrote:
Today's NY Times has an article about the fact that aspens in some western
states are dying of an unknown disease. Perhaps that is part of the
problem? You don't say where you live. Here's the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/26/sc...h/26aspen.html. If it doesn't
work, I can copy the text and send that, if you're interested.

There's also a story on the NPR website (npr.org) -- just search for Aspen